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Should be a wild four years.

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Members of the Trump Administration
https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/

 

[CaliforniaRaisin]

UnitedHealth Group stock price nears 5-year low as bad news piles up for the health insurance giant​

Shares sank to lows not seen since 2020 in premarket trading on Thursday after a report of a rumored DOJ investigation, which the company says it has not been notified about.

https://www.fastcompany.com/91335192/unitedhealth-group-stock-price-united-healthcare-parent-sinking-bad-news

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The stock price of UnitedHealth Group (NYSE: UNH) is sinking yet again this morning after reports that the private healthcare company is now under criminal investigation by the Department of Justice (DOJ) over possible Medicare fraud.
The company says it has not been notified by the DOJ about the alleged investigation, which was reported by the Wall Street Journal.

As of the time of this writing, UNH shares are currently down over 6% to $289.20 per share in premarket trading. UNH shares have not seen that low since 2020. Before today’s premarket fall, UNH shares had already been hammered since 2025 began.

The stock closed at $308 yesterday, marking a more than 39% decline since the year began. Over the past six months, UNH stock had fallen 48% as of yesterday’s close.

However, a majority of the stock’s fall has happened in the past five days. As of yesterday’s close, the stock was down more than 21% over the period—and today’s further fall is only adding to its losses.

Here are three reasons why UNH shares have fallen this week, including the latest news about the reported DOJ criminal investigation.

CEO Andrew Witty abruptly steps down​

On Tuesday, UnitedHealth Group investors were hit with a double whammy of bad news, which sent the stock tumbling as much as 18% that day.

The first bit of that bad news was the announcement that UnitedHealth Group CEO Andrew Witty was abruptly stepping down[/URL] from his role as chief executive.

Witty had been in the role since 2021 and was a leader whom investors adored. During his tenure, shares in UnitedHealth Group had soared more than 60%.

However, after the killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson[/URL] in December 2024—and the glee with which many Americans reacted to it—Witty in the New York Times. Witty was criticized as being out of touch with the negative experiences of customers who have been denied coverage for critical and sometimes lifesaving health procedures.
Announcing Witty’s immediate departure on Monday, UnitedHealth Group did not give any detailed explanation of the unexpected move. The company merely said that Witty was stepping down for personal reasons.

When a CEO abruptly leaves a company, it can make investors nervous. And nervous investors often sell, which is what happened on Tuesday after the announcement of Witty’s departure.

However, Witty’s departure isn’t the only thing that sent UNH shares falling 18% that day.

UnitedHealth Group suspends 2025 outlook​

Also announced on Tuesday was that UnitedHealth Group had decided to. When a company suspends its fiscal outlook, it’s a sign to investors that it does not have a lot of confidence in its financial projections for the next year. This uncertainty makes investors nervous and is another reason why the stock plummeted 18% on Tuesday.

The reason UnitedHealth Group gave for suspending its 2025 outlook was due to the fact that medical costs for the company’s new Medicare Advantage customer base were higher than expected.

Announcing the suspension of its 2025 outlook, UnitedHealth Group’s new CEO, Stephen Hemsley, said he was “deeply disappointed in and apologize for the performance setbacks we have encountered from both external and internal challenges.”
The suspension of the 2025 outlook followed a cut that UnitedHealth Group made to its 2025 outlook last month. That cut came after the company missed its quarterly earnings expectations for the first time in more than 10 years.

Rumored DOJ criminal investigation​

Investors were surely hoping yesterday that the worst news for UnitedHealth Group this week was behind it. After the 18% drop in UNH shares on Tuesday, UnitedHealth Group’s stock price closed down just over 1% yesterday—a sign the bleeding had mostly stopped.

But now UNH shares are down more than 6% this morning in premarket trading after the Wall Street Journal that UnitedHealth Group is now under a criminal investigation by the Department of Justice over possible Medicare fraud.
The Journal was light on details in what the alleged criminal allegations covered, saying “the exact nature of the potential criminal allegations against UnitedHealth is unclear,” but it added that it was focused “on the company’s Medicare Advantage business practices.”

The Journal’s reporting of a criminal investigation follows a February from the paper in which it said that UnitedHealth Group was facing an investigation from the DOJ.

Insurers get paid lump sums from the government via the Medicare Advantage system, and if patients have certain conditions, those lump-sum payments could be higher. In its February report, the Journal reported that “Doctors said UnitedHealth . . . trained them to document revenue-generating diagnoses, including some they felt were obscure or irrelevant.”
It added, “The company also used software to suggest conditions and paid bonuses for considering the suggestions, among other tactics, according to the doctors.”

At the time, UnitedHealth Group called the Journal’s report “misinformation.”

Reached for comment about the Journal‘s latest report, UnitedHealth Group referred Fast Company to a published on its website:

“We have not been notified by the Department of Justice of the supposed criminal investigation reported, without official attribution, in the Wall Street Journal today. The WSJ’s reporting is deeply irresponsible, as even it admits that the ‘exact nature of the potential criminal allegations is unclear.’ We stand by the integrity of our Medicare Advantage program.”

Fast Company has also reached out to the DOJ for comment. We will update this post if we hear back.

Fucking BURN BABY BURN

 

[WickyWickyWoW]

He already drastically increased the requirements and wages of H1-B's and visas. From 66% to over 500% depending on the job.

Regardless letting the Jeet flood in at all is bad, it doesn't matter if they get paid more and need actual qualifications and not fakes. Just having any of them in a company can prove to be corrosive and they lust for any kind of management position and will immediately try to move mountains to fire and replace the native workers with more jeets. The attitude of affirmative action and white guilt aids them in any march upwards, I also have a pessimistic attitude regarding the flood because of Trump's support of the h1b program in term 1

 

[Aidan]

this daft cunt had her mind made up weeks ago

Nothing new there, she's always been this way.

 

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Regardless letting the Jeet flood in at all is bad, it doesn't matter if they get paid more and need actual qualifications and not fakes. Just having any of them in a company can prove to be corrosive and they lust for any kind of management position and will immediately try to move mountains to fire and replace the native workers with more jeets. The attitude of affirmative action and white guilt aids them in any march upwards, I also have a pessimistic attitude regarding the flood because of Trump's support of the h1b program in term 1

Americans just don't quite understand the Jeets. They don't care about ethics. They don't care about honor. They don't care about honesty. They will lie, cheat, steal, and corrupt anything they touch, because their shitty pagan jeet pseudoreligion states that if they succeed at being a shitty person, it's because the universe itself wanted them to succeed to reward them for being a good person in their last life and to punish you for being a bad person in your last life. They will lie to your face. They will fake credentials or evidence. They will take credit for other people's work. They will push the blame for fuckups on other people. They will harass and fire non-Jeets just to make room for Jeets, consequences be damned. And they have absolutely no qualms with doing this along racial lines. All of this is something we know about -- the Chinese, Jews, and Blacks do it too, while White Europeans are explicitly trained from birth they must put up with this and never do it themselves -- but they're not as blatant and retarded about it as the Jeets.

Every bad thing you've ever seen about them is true. Everything. Yes, even them eating still steaming cow shit off the ground. Yes, even them standing around as a lifeguard wearing a suit and tie with 500 men in a pool wondering where the rape victims women are. Yes, even them lining up to rape rotting corpses. I don't see them fixing themselves without a few hundred years of failure and starvation and the stupid being beat and bred out of them, and that won't happen if they can just send infinite amounts of colonists to real countries to turn them into little India.

 

[StudMccool]

or something environmental is literally turning our population into an admittedly beloved and awesome variant of retard. Probably should figure that one out before it's too late.

that punched me right in the gut.

I know a guy that swears up and down he saw a night and day change in his kid after his first round of vaccinations.

Its not something I like to think about or just find a way to convince myself he must have misunderstood or even is making it up. I really REALLY hope its environmental. The alternative is dark.

 

[Jace on ice]

Women on the Supreme Court were a mistake. That's one place you absolutely don't want feels over realz emotional hysterics.

 

[pwnest injun]

It's realpolitik. I don't get it either. Yes it's probably a bribe. But it shows they're willing to work with us -- or at least the current admin. That's huge amounts of progress, especially since before we picked one sect of the iron age death cult and tried to set off infinite civil wars until we won. Or as we called it, "Nation building." Plus IIRC Israel and Russia have vested interests in keeping the region destabilized for the foreseeable future, and this is Trump saying "lol no, our interests come first."

Realpolitik is really simple and straight forward. If someone offers you a bribe, and you can do them a favor that doesn't damage your interests in any obvious way, you should take it. They're going to like you more and you will now have a personal connection with that other leader. Never anything explicit, that can be legally iffy, but favors for favors makes friends.

For example, last time Trump was president MBS bought some $350bn in US weapons. Then MBS kicked the CIA out of his government and butchered a CIA go-between (and journalist, yuck) who was trying to organize a coup against him in response. Trump's response was to shrug and say, "we do good business. Not going to jeopardize that over some raghead spook." Since then, MBS has Trump's back and even helped schlong the Biden WH on the oil trade.

 

[Kalsarikännit]

It is playing in the Pacific when China has been trying to make friends in the Middle East for years. The Cold War in the Far East is no longer limited to that area.

Not to mention the US has control of or maintains relations with the Philippines, Japan, and every rinky-dink island in between.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Right. I would rather India impose 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000% tariffs and we just cut the visa tap off. They are invasive.

They are mad Saar.

 

[Conan]

It's the fervent, baseless national pride of Indians that is the most off putting. The assertion that they are the backbone of all of civilization and superior to everyone is so fucking laughable and easily disproven.

I can't think of another group of people so debased and disgusting with such a constant, unwavering pride that is so totally repudiated by simple observation.

And another thing, they're ugly.

 

[Dammit Mandrake!]

Twitter now has ACB trending cause apparently she's being hostile as fuck against the Trump admin in her line of questioning too. Remember, she was a Cocaine Mitch pick, not necessarily a Trump pick. He should have found an extremely based black man in his early 30s so we could have a backup Thomas for the next 40-50 years.

Judge Lagoa.

 

[CraftyCat3]

shitty pagan jeet pseudoreligion

I'm thankful the only Indian I know well practices Jainism. Plus it's fun to harass him about violating the dietary rules.

 

[Levitcus prime24]

It's the fervent, baseless national pride of Indians that is the most off putting. The assertion that they are the backbone of all of civilization and superior to everyone is so fucking laughable and easily disproven.

I can't think of another group of people so debased and disgusting with such a constant, unwavering pride that is so totally repudiated by simple observation.

And another thing, they're ugly.

Them being ugly is the bigger motivation

 

[Sweeter and Savoury]

It seems pretty open that Trumps going to lose this appeal. not that I really expected some judges to limit judicial power, that was very unlikely to happen u de any circumstances.

4 justices are openly hostile and we know how Robert's will swing, so I guess the new official rulers of the US is every and any single judge anywhere at any level, any judge can stop anything the PotUS does with an unappealable TRO at anytime for any reason and its perfectly legal.

Just like the Filibuster call, this will come back to haunt the Democrats.

The question becomes now what will happen? Will Trump just accept this? Or will he push Congress to actually do something for once?

Interesting times, interesting times.

 

[Bindo]

Fucking BURN BABY BURN

Fuck UHG, but understand that the company almost certainly meets the criteria for being considered Too Big To Fail by .gov.

If they continue cratering, the taxpayer is going to be the one footing the bill. Through the parent and subsidiaries, UNH touches like 60-70% of all Rx transactions in the US. Largest Part C policy writer by a mile last I checked, once the subsidiaries are accounted for. Medicaid, clinics, Labcorp, employer plans, etc.

Witty was likely fired, they can't say that because then they look like retards for clapping like seals when he made the line go up by spending the last 6 years firing all of the internal subject matter experts, replacing them with Abundant Indians, and of late, half-baked AI projects that deployed with a defect rate approaching 90%.

 

[StudMccool]

It's the fervent, baseless national pride of Indians that is the most off putting.

"No government or social system is so evil that their people must be considered lacking in virtue"
-John F Kennedy

fuck it, Ill speak on the Jeets defense. Ive worked with many of them over the years and most of what you all have to say is true in a vacuum but I wanna say 2 things in there defense.

1. There is 1 and a half BILLION of them, if you deleted 500 million you still have nearly a billion of ONE billion people. Ive met lots of shitty whites and Americans to and there is only 300 million of them. All that to say odds are when you interact with ANY person by sheer odds they are going to kinda suck and cause there is SO many Indians I feel that "average" feels distorted. Met one playing chess one time ( I know ladies keep your panties on) and guy blew me away, he was younger 20s and finished his masters in engineering and was going for a double master in biology to go into bio engineering, his whole family had saved for his whole life to send him to America, he was soft spoken with decent english, kind (did smell bad, 2/3 aint bad tho) and beat the snot out of everyone there at chess, including me.

2.

not even 80 years after being a colonial subject they have a larger economy than their former colonial overlord, you can say watever you want, thats damn impressive and worth being proud of your nation, also check out that year over year GDP growth, knocking on the door of double digits.

There are lots of legitimate reasons to criticize India but they are not without merit

 

[WelperHelper99]

Speaking of Sotomayor, she apparently won't let the lawyers actually argue their case cause she really really doesn't want someone to make a valid argument against the magic clay theory.

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What a fucking dumb whore.

Roberts has to realize he can't let the dumb women on the bench boss him around like this. It's not even political at this point, you already look like a bitch, do you want this to confirm it even more?

Roberts is bitchmade and deserves the court he has with dumb bitches yelling over lawyers

 

[George Lucas]

It seems pretty open that Trumps going to lose this appeal. not that I really expected some judges to limit judicial power, that was very unlikely to happen u de any circumstances.

4 justices are openly hostile and we know how Robert's will swing, so I guess the new official rulers of the US is every and any single judge anywhere at any level, any judge can stop anything the PotUS does with an unappealable TRO at anytime for any reason and its perfectly legal.

Just like the Filibuster call, this will come back to haunt the Democrats.

The question becomes now what will happen? Will Trump just accept this? Or will he push Congress to actually do something for once?

Interesting times, interesting times.

The fuck you mean unappealable? The Supreme Court literally reversed a TRO like a month ago.

 

[Dammit Mandrake!]

It seems pretty open that Trumps going to lose this appeal. not that I really expected some judges to limit judicial power, that was very unlikely to happen u de any circumstances.

If you are right, it is by accident because nothing you said makes sense. Just wait and see.

 

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Fuck UHG, but understand that the company almost certainly meets the criteria for being considered Too Big To Fail by .gov.

If they continue cratering, the taxpayer is going to be the one footing the bill. Through the parent and subsidiaries, UNH touches like 60-70% of all Rx transactions in the US. Largest Part C policy writer by a mile last I checked, once the subsidiaries are accounted for. Medicaid, clinics, Labcorp, employer plans, etc.

Witty was likely fired, they can't say that because then they look like retards for clapping like seals when he made the line go up by spending the last 6 years firing all of the internal subject matter experts, replacing them with Abundant Indians, and of late, half-baked AI projects that deployed with a defect rate approaching 90%.

If there was any political environment to end this practice of government bailouts of private industry due to waste, corruption and terrible practices, it would be now. It's optimistic, yes. but it's the best shot we've got.