I was enjoying my Chantal break (and checking out some other potential cows for a bit) but I cracked a beer tonight and felt nostalgic so I came back to see if anything had happened.
Seems pretty same old same old but that's never stopped me from replying to any interesting comments with long winded theories so let's dive in:
I always thought Nader was gross for fucking her and the reason he stopped was because he too realized how gross it is but maybe he stopped out fear that Chins would literally bite his dick off.
Nadar stopped because he realized he could still get everything he wanted from her without having to touch a single fat fold. He was living on cruise control; nothing he said or did could make her leave, so why put in any kind of effort to get her to stay?
Speaking of this though, I wanted to as you guys about this:
Speaking of Nader, someone yesterday on Yabas panel came in and claimed she had spoken directly to him.
Nader told her that he told Chantal it’d cost $500 a day per hangout.
Which is why he only saw her for about 10 days out the month, that’s what she could afford. (5K a month)
Just thought it was interesting.
Was this ever confirmed? This feels like it very well could be real and sounds exactly like something Chantal would agree to (wow with a price tag that high too he'd only have to see her a minimal amount to still make rent money).
Most of my info I admit comes from Queen of WTFs full playlist, which is great but definitely misses some interesting things for the sake of a concise cutdown. For example it was only from here that I learned Chantal was watching Nadar's incoming calls from the phone she gave him on a second phone she had.
I was watching BBQ chicken's videos to see that era through another lens but I admit I find her very difficult to listen to with her giggling and singing and shit.
"Even IF Oy was chasing him, it doesn't give him the right to be abusive, so whoy does that even matter?" It matters because after crying ABUSE! to her idiot followers she would scold, insult, and block them when they called her out for running back (often uninvited) to the trap. If he was so abusive, then why did she have to BRIBE him to give her the time of day?
Her brain is as filtered as her face. And the filters don't work for either.
It's just another way for her narc brain to not take responsibility for anything that happened. She now dismisses everything she said and did in that era because she was "under his spell" like he's a hypnotist or something.
What amazes me is that I found
this old video BBQ Chicken made where Chantal talks about being in a relationship with a Nadar-type and how she learned so much from it and would never be in that situation again etc etc and obviously it's hilariously spliced with her going through the exact same thing with Nadar.**
And this example clip is
exactly why it matters that she was chasing him.
By accepting no responsibility for everything that happened she will change nothing and simply repeat the same pattern again and again. I know I'm preaching to the choir here, and there are many things in her "relationship" with Nadar that she purposely caused/made worse/repeated because the drama was exciting for her* but this is why self reflection is so important.
And why those who are incapable of it are amusing content cows.
*I won't elaborate on that right now since I'm sure I've written an entire novel on here before about how her constant complaints about things that are "good" and "normal" being "boring" are related to her constant dulling of her own thoughts/feelings through food and drugs, as well as having no friends, hobbies or stimulation.
The TLDR is that I believe the only feelings she can still really feel are BIG ones like utter bliss, complete victimhood or insane rage which is why she (consciously or otherwise) constantly seeks them out.
**Another fun point from the video is that this encounter was supposedly years before but she was just waiting for him to reach out so she could brag about how happy she was with Bibi. Her whole life is centered around desperately trying to make those moments happen, where she rubs people's faces in her own success and proves them all wrong. Where everyone declares her superiority and apologies and looks on her with envy.
The problem is she's too lazy, stupid and gross to ever be enviable, so she just plays pretend that everyone is jealous in her mind.
That she was able to rationalize that he was a "good guy" is mind boggling. She couldn't fix her Broken Daddy, so she thought she could fix some other man? Or maybe she thought that he was so repulsive that she wouldn't have any female competition?? (Enter the sick freak, Debby Colbeck.)
Here's the trick I use when trying to figure out a Chantal argument/rationalization: Take it to its lowest, simplest form and stop there.
Nadar made her feel good, therefore Nadar IS good.
It works in the opposite direction too; Nadar raped Mae. It makes Chantal upset when people point out that her boyfriend is a violent rapist, therefore Mae has upset Chantal so Mae is a bad person (or in Chantal's words "A crazy old see-you-next-tuesday")
It never goes deeper that that.
There's a South Park quote that actually sums this up perfectly:
If someone upsets Chantal and no one else is angry about it, it's because the audience is all too stupid to see how horrible that person is. It's doesn't matter the context, the person or the crime; they're the worst and you're defending them/an idiot if you don't agree.
If someone makes Chantal happy and no one else is fawning over them then that's because you're all horrible people who judge people on their past mistakes and can't move on and really doesn't that make YOU the bad person? Again, context doesn't matter here.
How she feels is right even if it doesn't align with reality.
Try it out, it works with all of her arguments; she not sad about BBJ's health or care, so you're stupid if you are.
She's not worried about her health or weight so why are you?
Today she IS worried about her health and weight so you all better be too and hold her accountable and give her recipes!
She has plenty of money so what does it matter what she spends it on? It could go to drugs, Nadars rent or be burned in a big pile and you're stupid to care! But now she has no money so WE ALL spend too much on indulgences (You hear this "we" a lot when she first started talking to Salah) and we all have to start budgeting and help each other budget and be accountable!
It's just that simple.
Just that stupid.
LOL no. She hates Peetz just like rest of us, perhaps even more.
My running theory is that she hates Peetz simply because he isn't a prize she can show off. Peetz isn't going to show all those bitches from high school that she is attractive and desired and better than them.
Yes, he's the only man who would love her (without financial incentive) no matter how big, how gross, how angry she gets. Yes he would give her everything he's got and more, acting as a personal slave, a trusted confident and perfect yes man. Yes he'd always come crawling back no matter how cruel she was to him...
But he's ugly and weird so she resents him for being what she wants without being what she wants.
This was the night she croid and sobbed the whole way home after saying she dropped off Nader cuz she's "grouchy &overwhelmed".....(we found out later it's bc he told her she couldn't stay overnight)
That is hilarious! I had no idea that's why she was such a dramatic mess.
I figured he called her names or kicked her out but that's even better.
Her crying usually annoys me because it's so fake and over the top (Her American roadtrip had a lot of that) but that fit always felt like it had a bit of genuine misery to it in my opinion.
She's so fucking stupid it boggles my mind. We KNOW he was bullshitting her off camera to keep her hanging along. That's blatantly obvious. Who denies that? That's the fucking point. She's the idiot who fell for it, that's what everyone is saying. Of course he told you he cared about you, and you were going to get a house, he would leave DeeDee, or whatever bullshit he said. He said all of that so she'd keep paying his rent, for his drugs, for the chicken he'd pretend to cook, etc. No one denies that.
She knows that, I'm sure of it.
If you left her in a room completely by herself she'd argue that the wall was taking the side of whoever she was angry at in that moment.
It's another example of her overly simplistic way of processing situations; it doesn't matter what you were saying or what your point is. She's angry right now and you're the person she's arguing with therefore you argument is the opposite of hers.
You can see her making these mental leaps when she's twisting what people say (A good example is when someone tried to tell her that losing support was a consequence of her own actions and she twisted it into "So you're saying I deserved to be abused?? TO BE HIT??") so that she doesn't appear at fault and was the victim all along. It's part of her narcissism for sure, but also just part of her extreme social/emotional/logical retardation.
It shocks me that this isn't talked about more; she sent this while sober and right after arriving in Kuwait and declaring herself married. I would have loved for her to be grilled about this, Salah on a live demanding to know why she was in that chat in the first place.
From what I've seen Salah was embarrassed and she gave a vague apology about humiliating her husband but to me this should have been a pretty big deal.
I remember there was speculation during the telegram leaks that she was still talking to Nadar under a different name, was this ever confirmed and was anything released? I know we'll never get them but I'd love to read those conversations.
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