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The dems have no one right now. AOC, Shapiro, Whitmer, Walz, Harris, Newsome will not beat Vance. It would be almost impossible to find someone within the next three years, but they could pull something out of their ass, maybe. At this stage, 2028 is the republicans to lose. They have to avoid in fighting.
Thevage old adage is Democrats always give the nomination to whoever they think is most due. 2008 was their last "democratic" primary process, and since they ousted Hogg as vice chair of the DNC, it looks like they'll" continue appointing candidates rather than electing them.
My bet is they will run Walz in the lead spot with Arizona Governor Katie Hobbs for VP, for their service in stealing elections for the DNC, and their ability to shapeshift to "moderate" outside of their State.
 
It's all they know.

Since the 90's they have groomed entire generations of white children to hate themselves and hate everything their culture stands for, created or did. The current crop of up and coming Dems is the penultimate version of this so naturally they are turning on each other to see who can favor the niggers the most.

It's always irritated me that these people believe white people are inheritance evil and a vile plague on the world don't take their own ethos to it's correct conclusion and off themselves. They think that all white people should die, lets not mince words that's the core truth of what they've been taught, so the world can "heal" from all the white supremacy etc etc but yet they never kill themselves which in their ethos would be the most moral action they can take.

So I guess instinct is still stronger then propaganda in most cases. These progressive choose the slow decline path so they themselves can still enjoy the fruits of life and white society all the while decrying it.

fucking hypocrites
No, in the 90’s race relations were basically still at “stay in your lane and try not to say the n word.”

You could also still buy t shirts with swastikas on them and people would just think it was some kind of edgy punk thing

I used to listen to nofx’s “don’t call me white” and my brain would just add subtext that said “or I’ll call you one of about five thousand different words and you’ll get your feelings hurt”

Also the edgiest thing Billy from Green Day had ever done was switch some pronouns around in basket case
 
I can understand that. Even though I really don't like the Democratic party it makes me nervous that they're this fucked up right now. It's fine now because there's things the Republicans in power are doing that need to be done but no party stays in power without becoming completely fucked up. As much as I hate to say it, there will come a time when the Democrats will need to get their shit together and I'm not seeing any course correction in the future.

It's okay though, you can laugh even though it's bad. In fact, that's the best time to laugh.
Your sentiment is a funny one (that I agree with) but it's humorous to me that this was the exact same lines that Nancy Pelosi dropped in 2020 or so after the little security mishap at the capital.

The Democrats were so used to Republicans being essentially a bunch of do-nothings that bent the knee like a large portion of our Republican Congress is even today, that Trump positively shook them. Now Democrats have lurched even harder into unhinged territory and they can't stop tripping over one another to move the needle even further left instead of course correcting back to grounds where most Americans want them.

I don't want a democrat party that puts up batshit insane candidates every election cycle. Because the minute Republicans have a major fuck up or put up a bad candidate, that's what we're getting.
 
I think Libertarians and Communists are just 2 sides of the same coin. Many people in their 20s tend to lean towards one of these ideologies or something equally idealistic and then as they grow up and experience the world they realize that communism leads to starvation and owning nothing and libertarianism leads to the Congo.
The way I've heard this put many years ago, when I was sitting in class with a non-totally-insane prof that actually encouraged some healthy debate among us students, was something along the lines of 'Ayn Rand & Objectivism (basically turbo-libertarianism) were anti-Communist not only in the sense that they opposed Communism generally, but in the sense of antimatter's relationship with matter'. Basically the opposite end on a horseshoe of insanity, and the further away you get from the middle on that one, the more insane and impractical for real-life application your ideology was. (Rand herself was a refugee from the early USSR where her dad's business was nationalized - bluntly, seized at gunpoint by the commies - and she got purged from the university she tried to study at because she came from a 'bourgeois' background, so her being autistically determined to take every single polar opposite position to Communism she could find, no matter how illogical, at least makes some sense with that context. Many of her American disciples, obviously, do not have such an excuse.)

Looking at the bigger picture of how conservative ideologies evolved over time, pretty much none of them actually ever supported the social atomization and hyper-individualism intrinsic to libertarian thought. Despite their many differences, basically all conservatives in every country and through all time since the American/French Revolutions believed in the necessity of a hierarchic social order where people couldn't just do whatever the fuck they wanted all the time - in other words, they were fundamentally anti-anarchistic - and acknowledged a need for occasional personal sacrifices in the service of a greater good, whether it was European throne-and-altar conservatism or the American nationalism of Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt & Nixon. None of those three presidents would approve of most, if any, modern libertarian positions & values and I suspect the feeling is mutual, if what online lolbert types like Razorfist think about them is any indicator.

The sort of 'fuck society, fuck all governments, fuck anything resembling a common good and fuck you, I've got mine (including my stash of CP and hard drugs) and that's all that matters to me' attitude usually associated with anarchists and lolberts of both the left and right-wing varieties evolved out of the more extreme/solipsistic schools of liberal and leftist thought over time, pretty much always in opposition to conservative thought. Even the most pro-'small government' conservative/trad sorts like Tolkien still envisioned there being hard limits on social behavior and the enforcement of those limits, just on a smaller scale - basically that it'd be your neighbors and local sheriff's department that kept you from sitting around getting high all day or abducting schoolchildren for your harem, rather than the Army imposing martial law or a totalitarian state security apparatus. And yeah, while 'total freedom, dude let's smoke weed & fuck all day lmao' might've been something that sounded cool to my younger and dumber self, nowadays it's difficult not to look at the absolute state of the West and not come to the conclusion that that line of thinking and its predecessors is actually societal cancer. Perhaps it is time for the modern right to acknowledge that Rand and her ilk were no less deluded and toxic than Lenin, Trotsky & Mao in the end, just in a different way.
 
Your sentiment is a funny one (that I agree with) but it's humorous to me that this was the exact same lines that Nancy Pelosi dropped in 2020 or so after the little security mishap at the capital.

The Democrats were so used to Republicans being essentially a bunch of do-nothings that bent the knee like a large portion of our Republican Congress is even today, that Trump positively shook them. Now Democrats have lurched even harder into unhinged territory and they can't stop tripping over one another to move the needle even further left instead of course correcting back to grounds where most Americans want them.

I don't want a democrat party that puts up batshit insane candidates every election cycle. Because the minute Republicans have a major fuck up or put up a bad candidate, that's what we're getting.
Young Republicans aren't conservative, they're fascist.
 
They think they are the good ones. Incessant groveling and allyship will surely buy their way into wakanda. Unaware they are hated by the very group they are turn coating for.
This reminded me, some guy was telling a story the other day about a hardcore leftist white woman who flew to jamaica and turned up at bob marley's house to join the rastafarians, she was immediately turned away for being white. lol. Lmao. I bet she learned fucking nothing from that.
 
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Yea yea NPR but just chill. This isent an opinion piece and its from 2011, practically a different era in spacetime, besides all that is pertinent is the reporting of the statements of a former pentagon official.

I just come back and think about this ALOT cause most of you wont remember when this was being discussed was prior to coming election and how bad the middle east spending was got talked about by 2 groups, the people that went on later that year to start Occupy Wall Street and Alex Jones, in retrospect that was a damn ominous sign.

Republicans couldn't use it as a talking point, Bush Senior got us over there then Bush Junior got us stuck. The democratic party just kept going with the so called "Christian Imperialistic war" waged by the Bush admin in spade, Obama's admin was actually FAR more aggressive than either bush Admin in this regard so they had to act like every "insurgent" killed kept Americans safe at night or somthing.
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Anyway at the time of the news from the beginning coming out about how bad the spending was overseas I remember how fucked the conversation in the mainstream media got both sides started attacking anyone who brought it up
"you want our soldiers to be hot and sweaty while they defend our freedom, you are unpatriotic, you suck, how dare you suggest our brave soldiers fighting for freedom in democracy not be treated with every care needed!"

No mention of the burn pits, or the 10 to 1 veteran suicides to combat losses or the increasingly useless VA services.

20 billion just for AC

thats 2 whole aircraft carriers and what do we have to show for it?

I guess all this to say when they saw we would swallow 20 billion for AC willingly I think we fully jumped the MIC shark.

I cant overstate how much money this is. Its more than TWICE what we left in Kabul in 2021. ON AIR!
 
Now as I raise my children around other’s kids who are on the vaccine schedule to the T I can see the difference. At 2 years old most their kids aren’t talking, at least not in a way that’s comprehensive. They’re not as interactive. They walk strangely. They’re sick constantly. Ear infections, allergies etc. Getting put on rounds of antibiotics over and over.

I'm sorry is this the mothering.com message board and is this 2003?

I also did delayed/selective vaccination and I live in a part of the world where complete antivaxxers roam free. There's no difference between kids vaccinated on the schedule and kids not vaccinated on the schedule.

Probably what you're seeing is screens and daycare.
 
I'm sorry is this the mothering.com message board and is this 2003?

I also did delayed/selective vaccination and I live in a part of the world where complete antivaxxers roam free. There's no difference between kids vaccinated on the schedule and kids not vaccinated on the schedule.

Probably what you're seeing is screens and daycare.
Daycare at least where I live isn’t really a negative. The kids don’t roam free, they have activities and recesses like school.
 
and it's always the same ugly fucking glasses with these already ugly fucking people.
it's purposeful, I'm 100% convinced, every putrid ugly gross disgusting repulsive woman (and some men tbh) I've seen wear these type of glasses is the biggest fucking useless smug tiktok video creator like that sesame street cunt.
give me top hats, I'm so sick of these fucking people and their devotion to ugliness. It's been 20 fucking years and they still wear these stupid fucking things. GOD.
This goes for piercings too. If you're putting holes in your face it's to disgust other people. With the amount of instinctive anti-social behavior these people display, I'm convinced of it.
 
Daycare at least where I live isn’t really a negative. The kids don’t roam free, they have activities and recesses like school.

ok great, that's really awesome for you. and people where I live aren't fat. but I don't tell people "I live in the US and my neighbors are some svelte motherfuckers" when someone brings up US obesity. Daycare is mostly garbage.
 
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