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I'm sorry is this the mothering.com message board and is this 2003?

I also did delayed/selective vaccination and I live in a part of the world where complete antivaxxers roam free. There's no difference between kids vaccinated on the schedule and kids not vaccinated on the schedule.

Probably what you're seeing is screens and daycare.
Daycare at least where I live isn’t really a negative. The kids don’t roam free, they have activities and recesses like school.
 
and it's always the same ugly fucking glasses with these already ugly fucking people.
it's purposeful, I'm 100% convinced, every putrid ugly gross disgusting repulsive woman (and some men tbh) I've seen wear these type of glasses is the biggest fucking useless smug tiktok video creator like that sesame street cunt.
give me top hats, I'm so sick of these fucking people and their devotion to ugliness. It's been 20 fucking years and they still wear these stupid fucking things. GOD.
This goes for piercings too. If you're putting holes in your face it's to disgust other people. With the amount of instinctive anti-social behavior these people display, I'm convinced of it.
 
Daycare at least where I live isn’t really a negative. The kids don’t roam free, they have activities and recesses like school.

ok great, that's really awesome for you. and people where I live aren't fat. but I don't tell people "I live in the US and my neighbors are some svelte motherfuckers" when someone brings up US obesity. Daycare is mostly garbage.
 
And here I thought the fires from earlier this year would be the political albatross. Was there ever a final death toll?
Newsom has an entire museum of political albatrosses. That’s why I’ve been confident this entire time that he will never get the nomination. He’s trying really hard but a few choice interviews and speeches can’t mask his entire political career of ruining the state
 
I lean libertarian because people are super bad, so thanks I don't want them in charge of me.
I sympathize with this position, but many libertarians, (though perhaps not you since you said you just lean libertarian), want to remove all restictions on weapons, drugs, and immigration. I don't want to live in a society where a child is a heroin addict before age 10 before dying to an Amazon package delivered by a slave imported from India that is laced with anthrax, and then sold to cannibals for food. But this is the society you get if the government is totally eliminated, or everything is legalized, because there needs to be some mechanism stopping people from indulging their most evil base instincts, or only those who indulge in evil base instincts will be rewarded.
 
I sympathize with this position, but many libertarians, (though perhaps not you since you said you just lean libertarian), want to remove all restictions on weapons, drugs, and immigration. I don't want to live in a society where a child is a heroin addict before age 10 before dying to an Amazon package delivered by a slave imported from India that is laced with anthrax, and then sold to cannibals for food. But this is the society you get if the government is totally eliminated, or everything is legalized, because there needs to be some mechanism stopping people from indulging their most evil base instincts, or only those who indulge in evil base instincts will be rewarded.
Libertarians also shut up real quick if the jackbooted thug standing on your neck is Jackboot Security Co rather than the local PD.
 
I sympathize with this position, but many libertarians, (though perhaps not you since you said you just lean libertarian), want to remove all restictions on weapons, drugs, and immigration. I don't want to live in a society where a child is a heroin addict before age 10 before dying to an Amazon package delivered by a slave imported from India that is laced with anthrax, and then sold to cannibals for food. But this is the society you get if the government is totally eliminated, or everything is legalized, because there needs to be some mechanism stopping people from indulging their most evil base instincts, or only those who indulge in evil base instincts will be rewarded.

counterpoint: we're in the mess we're in because of kudzu government regulations and bovine refusal to accept personal responsibility and people need to form voluntary associations with teeth to run their own shit and stop expecting big daddy government to do it for them.

at this point we can't have ancapistan for a lot of reasons but none of them are people's evil base instincts. and it just makes no sense to believe that people have these evil instincts (which they do) and want a powerful government. if you want to get a child addicted to heroin and send anthrax around the world, you become a politician.
 
I sympathize with this position, but many libertarians, (though perhaps not you since you said you just lean libertarian), want to remove all restictions on weapons, drugs, and immigration. I don't want to live in a society where a child is a heroin addict before age 10 before dying to an Amazon package delivered by a slave imported from India that is laced with anthrax, and then sold to cannibals for food. But this is the society you get if the government is totally eliminated, or everything is legalized, because there needs to be some mechanism stopping people from indulging their most evil base instincts, or only those who indulge in evil base instincts will be rewarded.
“The libertarian is immunized against all dangers: One may call him a scoundrel, parasite, swindler, profiteer, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But ask him if children can consent to sex and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: "I’ve been found out".”
 
It's more that they are idealistic and have a distorted view of humanity. The Left tends to vilify humanity. Unless a strong hand (theirs of course) is there to guide and control mankind violence and destruction will result because humans are nothing more then the products of their environmental conditions and thus barely above animals.

Libertarians see the opposite view, if humans are just left to do their own thing they will come together naturally to do good things. If the Left's view of humanity is far too dour and pessimistic then the Libertarians are far too optimistic.
At their best, libertarians are the rich, successful people who can just use coke on the weekends and not get addicted, and don't get why there are rules when they can bend them constantly and come out fine. Where it really falls down is when they get into the ideology, open borders is a pretty central tenet for libertarian thought.

Hell, maybe they have a point, you get rid of welfare of all kinds and you'll be getting a different class of immigrant, but we are very far from their libertarian utopia, and what order they want to implement the pieces of it tells you a lot about how connected to reality they are and what are their real goals.
 
They think they are the good ones. Incessant groveling and allyship will surely buy their way into wakanda. Unaware they are hated by the very group they are turn coating for.
A lot of it is that they fear having to reconcile the fact they are still hated when all of the “bad whites” leave.
 
counterpoint: we're in the mess we're in because of kudzu government regulations and bovine refusal to accept personal responsibility and people need to form voluntary associations with teeth to run their own shit and stop expecting big daddy government to do it for them.

at this point we can't have ancapistan for a lot of reasons but none of them are people's evil base instincts. and it just makes no sense to believe that people have these evil instincts (which they do) and want a powerful government. if you want to get a child addicted to heroin and send anthrax around the world, you become a politician.
Let me point something out: child pornography was not banned in the USA due to the markets or people up and deciding they thought it was bad. It took political pressure and an act of government to ban it. This was 100% a net good and an example of government working and doing the right thing. The government does not always do the right thing, but sometimes it does, and the thing that makes American government so special is it has - so far - walked a very fine line between freedom and government for 250 years without fucking it up completely. This is all to say that government is not all bad and neither are all regulations.

Libertarians, in my opinion, are a lot like incels: they got burned once by government and now hate all government. This is a tongue-in-cheek comment, do not take it seriously.
 
Ketanji Brown Jackson should've never been confirmed. She's been caught simping for child rapists, couldn't tell you what a woman was among other bullshit she's said. Just on the basis of defending child rapists ALONE should've instantly disqualified her and I'm legitimately fucking ashamed that they confirmed her retarded ass. Now she's fighting for illegal gang bangers. Fuck me.
 
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anyway the reason the libertarian people you know about are retarded and mostly just want to have sex with children is that if you're a libertyminded person who understands economics and takes personal responsibility you're generally off getting rich and living a normal life. mostly people who talk and write about politics and economics a lot are weird and dysfunctional, but if your political and economic beliefs are wrong your life is going to be somewhat fucked up anyway, so paradoxically socialists and people who think the state can solve their problems who talk and write a lot about politics and economics are *way* saner than libertarians who do it. They have good reasons to avoid reality, libertarians don't.

the one exception to this is feminists, because women have a rational reason to support state power (we are weak and puny)
 
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