US Where local forecast offices no longer monitor weather around-the-clock

Link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2025/05/16/weather-service-offices-overnight-cuts-map/
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For at least half a century, the National Weather Service has been an around-the-clock operation. But after the U.S. DOGE Service led efforts to shrink the federal government, that is no longer possible in some parts of the country.
In four of the agency’s 122 weather forecasting offices around the country, there aren’t enough meteorologists to staff an overnight shift, according to the National Weather Service Employees Organization, a union representing agency workers. And at least several more forecast offices are expected to stop staffing an overnight shift as early as Sunday.
Each of the offices has local knowledge about weather hazards and geographic features that helps improve the accuracy of weather forecasts and warnings and inform local officials’ decisions to close schools for wintry weather or evacuate residents ahead of hurricanes. Without a meteorologist working overnight, those offices’ duties to monitor conditions and issue forecasts and warnings will temporarily pass to neighboring offices each night, said Tom Fahy, the union’s legislative director.
At an agency whose staff have a strong commitment to their lifesaving work, he said, the circumstances have stretched employees’ resilience “to the breaking point” and “hobbled the agency’s esprit de corps.”
The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, the parent agency of the Weather Service, “remains adequately staffed to ensure that critical research continues and that actionable data continues to be released to the public as regularly scheduled,” spokeswoman Kim Doster said in an email. “NOAA anticipates no loss of critical information to the American people.”
The agency is meanwhile seeking to transfer employees to the most critically understaffed offices to fill gaps. Doster said it is also seeking hiring authority — NOAA and the Weather Service remain subject to a hiring freeze imposed in January — while also pursuing “a reevaluation of resource allocation and priorities across all line offices within the bureau.”
Weather Service staffing numbered more than 4,200 employees before President Donald Trump took office for his second term. But so far this year, the workforce has contracted by nearly 600 people — the same number of departures the agency saw across the past decade and a half, Fahy said.

Here is where those departures are hitting hardest.

California and the West
Weather Service forecast offices in Hanford, California, and Sacramento, in the state’s agricultural and mostly rural Central Valley, are no longer able to operate an overnight shift, leaving coastal offices that oversee the Bay Area and greater Los Angeles to cover for them.
The cutback in operating hours comes just as the traditional wildfire season begins in California. The Weather Service plays a key role in forecasting when dry air and strong winds elevate risks of fires sparking and spreading rapidly.
It is also expected that a Weather Service office in Pendleton, Oregon, which oversees a wide swath of southern Washington and northwestern Oregon, will soon be unable to operate overnight, though it was not yet clear when that might happen, Fahy said.
The overnight closure of the forecast office in Fairbanks, Alaska, affects most of that state’s land area — all of northern Alaska, including towns all along its Arctic coastline and the Bering Strait.

The Plains
A forecast office in sparsely populated northwestern Kansas has been one of the hardest hit by retirements and firings and is no longer operating overnight, Fahy said.
It is one of the facilities Weather Service officials are asking employees to voluntarily transfer to, offering paid moving expenses. Positions for three senior meteorologists at the Kansas office are among 155 critical vacancies at Weather Service offices that the agency is seeking to fill by the end of the month, according to an email sent to agency employees that was obtained by The Washington Post.
A forecasting office that oversees conditions across southwestern Wyoming and eastern Nebraska is scheduled to stop staffing an overnight shift Sunday, Fahy said.
These offices lie in what is called “Tornado Alley,” and as peak tornado season continues, this area is at the heart of a swath that has faced relentless thunderstorms, twisters and flooding rains for weeks this year.

The Eastern U.S.
There are some critical vacancies at offices along the Eastern Seaboard and the Gulf Coast — including offices in Texas and Louisiana that are facing the threat of tropical cyclones when hurricane season starts June 1. But so far, the densely populated eastern part of the country is not affected by overnight Weather Service closures.
Still, one office in eastern Kentucky — a region hit repeatedly by deadly and damaging floods in recent years — is already closing for the overnight hours. And a facility on Michigan’s Upper Peninsula is expected to begin overnight closures Sunday.
 

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Weather Service forecast offices in Hanford, California, and Sacramento, in the state’s agricultural and mostly rural Central Valley,
This right here is propaganda designed to make people clutch their pearls and go "oh no! what about the food?!".

Farms generally have their own weather monitoring sensors located directly in the areas they are growing. The one fucking sensor by the nearest airport (that is in shade over grass) is not going to tell you what the valley or flood land fields actually experience. The larger the farm the more sophisticated this weather forecasting setup is going to be. Hell I have sensors I bought off of amazon that I use to monitor the stats of my greenhouse and front and back yards. All of which have unique climates and that's on a 1/4 acre.

Satellite data is useful to see larger trends but micro climates exist everywhere. If you want to be a bad farmer then rely on a government meteorologist for all of your data.
 
I regularly monitor my local weather around the clock by looking out the window.
So do I - I'm an Okie, it kinda gets instilled in you as a kid, with tornadoes and all. Interesting fact: the majority of tornadoes that touch down are reported by normal folks who just call in and report them to the National Weather Service (they will send out someone to confirm Tornado damage/its path/its strength).

The joke about Meteorologists is, it's the only career where you can routinely f#ck up your job (i.e. give an incorrect forecast), and still show up to work the very next day.
 
The NWS is part of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. Just in case you didn't know what kind of organisation this is, here's a page from their 2024 budget summary.

The opening words are,
"As NOAA tackles the climate crisis by building a climate-ready nation, it will strive to ensure the needs of the Nation’s underserved and vulnerable communities are met. To meet this challenge, NOAA is making equity central to every facet of its mission delivery services and is working internally to create a model agency that draws from the full diversity of the nation, where everyone is treated with dignity and respect. "

Strangely none of this appears in the Washington Post description. When all of this has been expunged (along with those responsible for it) from the organisation I might take your funding pleas seriously.
 

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Shake up the old system, see where it breaks, then let's improve where needed. BUT ORANGE MAN BAAAAAAD!!!!!!
 
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The only concern I have about this is the potential, in areas that get sudden unexpected events like wildfires, for people not to get notified in time to get out, and winding up fucking burned to a crisp. In the area where the Fort is a fire can break out in the middle of the night and if the weather radio alert doesn't wake you up you could find yourself in a real fucking problem. The county has a fire alert system but it depends on cell phones and while that's fine for the valleys there are people in mountainous areas where cell phone reception is iffy at the best of times. And of course the mountains are more susceptible to fires suddenly starting up and going loco in a very short time. And then there's Tornado Alley, where a twister could spring up in the middle of the night and you wouldn't know til you felt yourself being ripped to shreds. I dunno where the line is between rooting out woke DIE shit and making sure that people don't fucking die, but DOGE's approach is making me a little nervous.
 
The only concern I have about this is the potential, in areas that get sudden unexpected events like wildfires, for people not to get notified in time to get out, and winding up fucking burned to a crisp. In the area where the Fort is a fire can break out in the middle of the night and if the weather radio alert doesn't wake you up you could find yourself in a real fucking problem. The county has a fire alert system but it depends on cell phones and while that's fine for the valleys there are people in mountainous areas where cell phone reception is iffy at the best of times. And of course the mountains are more susceptible to fires suddenly starting up and going loco in a very short time. And then there's Tornado Alley, where a twister could spring up in the middle of the night and you wouldn't know til you felt yourself being ripped to shreds. I dunno where the line is between rooting out woke DIE shit and making sure that people don't fucking die, but DOGE's approach is making me a little nervous.
As someone who lives in a tornado prone area, I don't think this massively increases risk from what I'm seeing. A large proportion of tornado warnings are based on radar analysis these days, which doesn't require you do be physically sitting in the same city. Alerts will still go out by phone and siren. We live in a strange era when weathermen can work remotely from another part of the world, but here we are.
 
Since thousands of bodies from people who died from rain they didn't know was coming like we said would never materialized from cutting DEI hires who goofed around with "climate change" initiatives and weren't monitoring the weather anyway? We gotta try a different angle to convince people they'll fucking DIE without big government....
 
Are the weather witches not mostly automated already? Even on warships, what few times you do embark a met tech, it's a once-a-day thing to take all the junk data, run it through some modelling software, and then spend most of your time making the powerpoint slide saying "it will rain where we're going" look pretty.
 
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Pretty sure modern weather forecast can be done either automatically by computer programs, or by people who care enough watching satellite images and giving their own guesstimate.
Meaning me. So far, the local forecast has been as accurate as expected.
 
Big Weather doesn't want you to know that their enormous roster of overeducated dorks with six-figure salaries and advanced computer models can be replaced by a single Pennsylvanian groundhog. The Weather Industrial Complex is a lie, a parasite that poses one of the greatest dangers to society.

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The county has a fire alert system but it depends on cell phones and while that's fine for the valleys there are people in mountainous areas where cell phone reception is iffy at the best of times.
just get starlink...
 
In four of the agency’s 122 weather forecasting offices around the country
nigga that is only 3.2% of them. are we really going to kvetch over 3%? and considering how easy it is to monitor meteorological equipment remotely, there is no reason why another office cant also handle those regions.
 
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