GPUs & CPUs & Enthusiast hardware: Questions, Discussion and fanboy slap-fights - Nvidia & AMD & Intel - Separe but Equal. Intel rides in the back of the bus.

[WULULULULU]

All while Nvidia's keynote is on. Suffer Chink-Jews.

 

[Bogan]

What I want to know is if they were always like this but just didn't think they would get away with it until now, or if this is just enshitification from management changing over time.

 

[WULULULULU]

Despite not having trannies in their workforce, Nvidia is doing the same tactics used by woke retards. Cherrypick critics who support the narrative.

 

[4090 Chad]

Nvidia will continue to act this way because they have unmatched market dominance and until the dominance is challenged via an actual competitor or the government (lol at either happening), Nvidia will continue to treat all of their customers and tech media with absolute disdain because what the fuck are we all going to do about it? Buy AMD or Intel?

 

[The Ugly One]

I'm pretty sure his top priority is reliable storage, not coares, though he is building a nice wish list with the extra cash.

You can get a single-core server. The main thing is they don't cut corners anywhere, from the DIMMs to the NVMe drive to the CPU itself, so things just plain don't break. Granted, if you rely on any commercial software at all that doesn't have a ppc64le release, you're SOL. Ours is the most bulletproof (and expensive) machine we have.

What I want to know is if they were always like this but just didn't think they would get away with it until now, or if this is just enshitification from management changing over time.

Jensen Huang has always been known as a vicious asshole for whom no tactic is too sneaky when it comes to trying to get a business advantage.

 

[Bogan]

until the dominance is challenged via an actual competitor or the government

Well, AMD might be on the right track to be considered serious competition in maybe 6 years. But 50-series aside NVidia hasn't been as asleep at the helm as Intel was.

 

[4090 Chad]

Well, AMD might be on the right track to be considered serious competition in maybe 6 years. But 50-series aside NVidia hasn't been as asleep at the helm as Intel was.

It’s not impossible Nvidia could have their Intel moment and just rest on their laurels while competition innovates and closes the gap, but Nvidia is a way different beast than Intel and their leadership has actual ambition so I don’t foresee them getting lazy or making incredible design blunders.

It’s possible AMD could become the gaming GPU market leader solely because Nvidia decides it’s a waste of money to budget silicon to gaming GPUs when it could be making 1000x more for their enterprise bullshit.

If we had a real government antitrust action would have already been taken against Nvidia, but because they’re a bonafide national security interest, so long as they do the bidding of the government, nothing will happen to Jensen’s empire.

 

[Bogan]

It’s not impossible Nvidia could have their Intel moment and just rest on their laurels while competition innovates and closes the gap, but Nvidia is a way different beast than Intel and their leadership has actual ambition so I don’t foresee them getting lazy or making incredible design blunders.

This was the common sentiment before the 50-series launch. But I'm not so sure NVidia has the willingness to invest any more in the GeForce brand to bring generational gains anymore. The entire 60-class card lineup has stagnated since the 3060. They have numerous hardware and software issues, and a lack of supply across the entire lineup.

AMD has supply shortages too, but I think it's because they didn't expect to sell so many cards so quickly.

What irks me a little is they're all going to TSMC exclusively for their consumer GPUs. I wonder if Samsung would be a good alternative at least for the lower end cards. Like if AMD made a 9050 on a Samsung die.

 

[4090 Chad]

This was the common sentiment before the 50-series launch. But I'm not so sure NVidia has the willingness to invest any more in the GeForce brand to bring generational gains anymore. The entire 60-class card lineup has stagnated since the 3060. They have numerous hardware and software issues, and a lack of supply across the entire lineup.

I think this all comes down to apathy and they even probably feel like they’re doing the world a favor by even still making consumer GPUs. They have supply issues because as you mentioned, everyone is trying use TSMC, but also because I don’t think they particularly cared if they had sufficient supply to begin with. They see it as money lost for every wafer that goes towards consumer cards when it could have gone to their enterprise data center bullshit. If you could read Jensen’s mind while he has his happy go lucky smile on his face, it would probably sound like:

“These ungrateful fucking troglodyte gamers have the gall to complain about our products?!?! They should be kissing my feet and thanking me for my generous charity I bestow the world by even making these fucking toys! Let’s see how much they like it when all they get next gen is fucking Lisa’s pile of dogshit!!”

 

[Fcret]

I just don't think gaming GPUs are a big enough deal to warrant government intervention. Especially not when AMD actually controls half the market once you factor in game consoles.

 

[4090 Chad]

I just don't think gaming GPUs are a big enough deal to warrant government intervention. Especially not when AMD actually controls half the market once you factor in game consoles.

I mean factor in data center as well obviously. How many MI300Xs are out there in comparison to H100s? How many data centers have adopted ROCm vs CUDA? The picture is quite clear. And that console figure is going to be even worse once the Switch 2 releases and all the good goys buy up the next round of Nintendo slop.

 

[Fcret]

I mean factor in data center as well obviously. How many MI300Xs are out there in comparison to H100s? How many data centers have adopted ROCm vs CUDA? The picture is quite clear. And that console figure is going to be even worse once the Switch 2 releases and all the good goys buy up the next round of Nintendo slop.

Apparently AMD does dominate some industries in enterprise as well. The one I know off the top of my head is medical imaging.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

I just don't think gaming GPUs are a big enough deal to warrant government intervention. Especially not when AMD actually controls half the market once you factor in game consoles.

Intel controls the third half when you factor in integrated graphics. You VILL play at 720p, lazy child.

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Lunar Lake with its on-package memory died, but Panther Lake gets to be Lunar Lake on steroids, using 18A to compensate. Adds 8 E-cores to the 4 P-cores and 4 LPE-cores of Lunar Lake. That's only one of the leaked configurations though.

 

[WULULULULU]

I rewatched GN's video and it took me a while to process the fact that Nvidia has some form of hateboner for actual engineers, especially those as what Steve have interviewed with.

The actual fuck is wrong with this company.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

I rewatched GN's video and it took me a while to process the fact that Nvidia has some form of hateboner for actual engineers, especially those as what Steve have interviewed with.

The actual fuck is wrong with this company.

I didn't realize how bad that was going to be since I didn't watch it. I assumed it was just the recent hubbub about the RTX 5060 being "previewed" compared to 3060/2060 with MFG thing.

From the comments:

 

[JoseRaulChupacabra]

Jensen Huang has always been known as a vicious asshole for whom no tactic is too sneaky when it comes to trying to get a business advantage.

In other words, your stereotypical chink business man.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

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Intel made a B50 16 GB Pro card. I don't know if it's based on the 192-bit Battlemage die or a smaller 128-bit one, but it's a 70W, low profile, dual-slot card. Price will likely be too damn high so I would like to beat up an engineer and take it from them. Oh, it's $299 MSRP, less than I thought.

 

[WULULULULU]

Jensen Huang has always been known as a vicious asshole for whom no tactic is too sneaky when it comes to trying to get a business advantage.

Mainland Chink business ethics 101.

 

[The Ugly One]

If we had a real government antitrust action would have already been taken against Nvidia, but because they’re a bonafide national security interest, so long as they do the bidding of the government, nothing will happen to Jensen’s empire.

There's an ongoing antitrust investigation into NVIDIA:

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-hit-with-u-s-doj-antitrust-investigation-over-alleged-market-dominance-abuse

I won't say any details for PL reasons, but I haver personal knowledge of things Jensen Huang has done to scuttle AMD deals that are at best in the gray area. One minor, public thing is they require business partners to refer to them as "the inventor of the GPU." NVIDIA didn't invent the GPU by even the most lenient definition. The first 3D accelerator with integrated T&L was developed in Japan, I think by Motorola. NVIDIA even lost a patent lawsuit in South Korea, I think against Samsung, over this.

But I'm not so sure NVidia has the willingness to invest any more in the GeForce brand to bring generational gains anymore.

I wouldn't bet on NVIDIA staying at 5nm forever. The reason Blackwell isn't a generational jump over Ampere is TSMC's next node didn't have the yields necessary to commit to it (recall also that Blackwell was late to market). I imagine switching suppliers from Samsung to TSMC had a couple snags as well.

Mainland Chink business ethics 101.

He's Tawianese.

 

[Miller]

Jensen Huang has always been known as a vicious asshole for whom no tactic is too sneaky when it comes to trying to get a business advantage.

Yeah, you can see it during the keynotes when something goes wrong. His natural instinct is to say "who did this to me?".