Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

[⋖ cørdion ⋗]

In most cases, it's a good idea to try working things out with your family, but if they aim to push this shit on your child, it's better to cut them off completely, as sad as it may be

It's especially worrying because I've not once in my goddamn life from the 90s to the 20s heard of anyone my age actively talk about wanting kids or worrying about kids or anything to do with kids. Yet, now, we see terminally online/single women call themselves 'mommies' and wanting to pamper others, never once having had maternal thoughts let alone wanting kids. Likewise dudes who never cared for kids (or women) suddenly being trans and caring oh-so-much about kids, wanting to groom and educate them. And at the back of it all, you got good honest women just wanting kids who aren't forced to face (gender) politics til they're 18, and they're vilified as archaic breeders.

I find it very hard to put into words what he is now. When he left he had a fioncee and big plans. I cannot even look at the pictures of him. He's gaunt and sad looking, his eye's aren't the eyes I know. He's tits now.

The thing that bugs me the most is what kind of people troon out. Terminally online TF2 furries surrounded by goonerism? Sure. The ripped athletic guy from college who went semi pro and pumped more miles in pussy than he did in the pool? Why? Where does it come from? Likewise in the black coomer culture: You'll see plenty of black dudes troon out, get fake nails and wigs and overall generally be more womanly than the average white tranny, yet they're still black thugs who grew up slinging dope. Did a dopefiend groom them during a bad trip? "Eyo dawg Shaquan you'd be a hot hoe ahaha"?

 

[Autistic Nonetheless]

I think im generally more excepting of tranny bullshit then most of the farms, and i've maintained pleasant enough friendships with multiple people who've transitioned. But I think i may have to somehow draw the line here with a guy so clearly AGP that im embarrassed to be seen in public with him. We work in the same district and frequent we the same coffeshop so I cant very well ignore him. And I know it’s hard, and the first few months are always super awkward, and i do try to be understanding about these things but i cant help it. Feels like im compromised just being seen with someone so obviously living his fetish.

My other fiends had either already transitioned or managed to navigate it dignity and aplomb. But this dude is walking around with a bad wig and a O collar and im convinced this all gonna go tits up in a few months and i just dont want to be around for it.
He is also doing the whole 'if you were a woman i'd date you' thing, which i've had before and doesn't lead anywhere good.

So yeah, think imma sit this one out. Somewhow.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

My other fiends had either already transitioned or managed to navigate it dignity and aplomb

My other fiends

Freudian slip

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

he ripped athletic guy from college who went semi pro and pumped more miles in pussy than he did in the pool? Why? Where does it come from? Likewise in the black coomer culture: You'll see plenty of black dudes troon out,

I am gonna go out on a limb and say i think drug use has a lot to do with the gender pandemic. Mainly weed and its legalization but also other perception altering psicodelics that are popular among the brodudes and tech crowd but number one is weed. Weed is the brainwash drug.

 

[Lovely Kin]

It already happened a long time before I made this account, and I wish I did so earlier so I could talk about this when it was happening. I lost a really good friend from England to transgenderism, he was a sperg, but he was fun to have conversations with. Just a guy you would look forward in having conversations with and we bonded over our shared interest in history. I feel that he always wanted somewhere to fit in and he was always easily influenced by others. Sometimes I even wonder if he was influenced by me, I would play Sims, and then he would ask me questions and then try playing it, I'll read a book, and he would try to read the same one.

One day he told me he was a transgender lesbian after weeks of acting mysterious with me. I had no idea how someone who called himself bisexual would become a transbian besides being a sperg, talking about how gross men were. Didn't know how to react at the time, pretty much was in shock. I knew he found a new group of friends, and at first, I was happily that he was making irl friends. Didn't expect them to be troons. So I asked him, and I wonder if it made things worse, if anyone was telling him or encouraging him to do this since he is easily influenced. That made him really upset, so I went to a mutual friend who he already cut off, who confirmed my suspicions, yes he was fucking convinced. Still, I tried talking to him but he became distant, butchering his appearance, admitted that his new friends don't want him talking to me as I was "evil to not accept him." Eventually he cut me off as well, leaving me to mourn the friend I once had.

And the worst thing? He was a fucking handsome guy who could have gotten anyone before he butchered his looks and hormones. All I know what happened to him from that mutual friend who knew my former friend irl, is that he's depressed. I genuinely don't know if I could have done anything differently, and thinking about it makes me sad about someone who I lost.

 

[Fapcop]

I don’t think we can spend time with them now because my own child hasn’t been exposed to this insidious nonsense and I don’t want ‘em to be. The parents will NOT back down on their child’s “right” to “speak their truth” and “educate” our kid and anyone else in the vicinity. Uuuuuuuuuugghhhhhhh

Probably a good idea. For some kids it’s an irresistible draw when they hear/see something new and different. Especially if they pick up on the fact that it gets a reaction from mommy and daddy.

Not saying that’s your kid, but that’s how this shit starts. First they groom the kids with colorful PRIDE material IRL and online, and then they let the groomed kids recruit some more.

Fucking dire.

 

[Lightning]

Sitting down here again but with a personal problem this time.

I've got this friend I've known for over a decade; we've had our ups and downs, but things are good now. So about him, he's this autist with intense self-loathing for his own appearance and voice, straight but hates jerking off because he has to touch dick, but also hates trannies and doesn't buy into the propaganda. But recently he admitted to me that (for reasons unclear) he's started having sleepless nights, overthinking and wondering if maybe, just maybe he might be a tranny too. Of course I tell him that's bs, you're just an dweeb neet playing video games all day, who'd never pass.

So today he tells me he came back from his first therapy session, and got told he's an enby. Hasn't really expressed his opinion on it so far, but given his pushover personality, he might just bite into it hook-line-sinker. Fucking unbelievable...

 

[Fapcop]

Sitting down here again but with a personal problem this time.

I've got this friend I've known for over a decade; we've had our ups and downs, but things are good now. So about him, he's this autist with intense self-loathing for his own appearance and voice, straight but hates jerking off because he has to touch dick, but also hates trannies and doesn't buy into the propaganda. But recently he admitted to me that (for reasons unclear) he's started having sleepless nights, overthinking and wondering if maybe, just maybe he might be a tranny too. Of course I tell him that's bs, you're just an dweeb neet playing video games all day, who'd never pass.

So today he tells me he came back from his first therapy session, and got told he's an enby. Hasn't really expressed his opinion on it so far, but given his pushover personality, he might just bite into it hook-line-sinker. Fucking unbelievable...

If he’s a pushover, you might want to push back and explain that he’s just an autistic weirdo, and what he’s feeling is normal for autistic weirdos. If not, how come the rates of autism among gender specials are sky high?

The “therapist” is likely a wokester, who will now earn big bucks on “exploring” the gender problem she created. (They are usually women, though I could be wrong of course.)

Disgusting.

 

[Paper Machete]

It's so unethical and immoral for these therapists to basically present a psychology/medical issue to patients. Fucking hell.

I hate therapists/counselors. Into the fiery pits they go.

 

[toilet_rainbow]

Sad, frustrating wife update.

Spoiler: long

My wife’s pain has worsened again along with her depression and alcohol use. Learned over the weekend how bad the depression in particular has become. I left the house for a walk because we got into an argument after she blamed American Imperialism on me unsuccessfully job hunting (really) and needed to vent. She proceeded to send me a suicide bait text message stream to my phone to the point that I called my MIL to tell her to stall her before I got home and decided if she actually needed an ambulance. By the time I returned, she had passed out at her computer.

Ever since, she has been panicking over the future of trans rights being destroyed by both American and British fascism and the fear of losing the chance of ever getting T via “fascist” healthcare guidelines. Also has been blaming me for “deceiving her” and telling her past arguments why T would be a bad idea (e.g. I have seen too many lesbians poon out from misogyny, homophobia, and gender stereotypes) were similar to those she has heard from professionals about why she couldn’t be a lesbian. Also that her body is her body and outside of an involuntary hold, she refuses to go on any additional medicine or therapy for her depression, pain, and body image. She wants that T, dammit, and I am killing her by saying I do not like the idea, knowing what I know. She also thought I was being overly judgmental about trans people in general, particularly men wanting to be lesbians or to wear Lolita dresses, because it’s “their choice, what’s the harm in it.” Well, I don’t know. Is this whole paragraph a good enough “nuff said?”

I’m scared of our future right now. I feel she’s about to ask for a divorce, all because she ultimately valued the opinions of trannies and facial hair over our relationship. I think much of it is from the booze and depression talking together, plus tranny friend and media consumption enabling because they only approve HRT related medical “help,” but it’s extremely painful to experience and think about all the same. I’m willing to make the relationship work, but she needs to pull the weight too.

Unsure if this is the end. We’ve bounced back from similar and worse crises before. And I think just a temporary hold or drinking less would clarify her mental state. But if it is indeed the end, then it better be the best damn fucking beard there ever was to be worth this much bullshit and heartache.

 

[Chapalapachapa]

I'm sorry fríen but your wife Is a fucking retard. Divorce her first

 

[It's Little Alex Horne]

Sad, frustrating wife update.

I'm sorry this is happening. Obviously I don't know your full history with your wife, but man, it might be time to throw in the towel. Stop falling for the sunken cost fallacy and let her go poon out and drink herself to death on her own.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

Ever since, she has been panicking over the future of trans rights being destroyed by both American and British fascism and the fear of losing the chance of ever getting T via “fascist” healthcare guidelines. Also has been blaming me for “deceiving her” and telling her past arguments why T would be a bad idea

What would you tell a wife with a husband who behaves that way? You already know the answer and what you have to do. The trans cult has brainwashed your wife. To get out of it she would need an actual program made for people under the influence of a cult and sadly there is no such thing for the trans cult (yet). I'm very sorry but you need to get away or she will drag you down with her. She is already angry at you and this won't get better (probably just worse and worse) since the trans cult has her in its claws and she decided that she likes it this way. Who knows what she is capable of doing to you once her mental health is at its lowest point. Leave!

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

And I think just a temporary hold or drinking less would clarify her mental state.

You had the opportunity to make that happen when she was suicide baiting. Why didn't you?

Yeah she might lie to them and they let her go. So just start calling it in every freaking time she pulls this shit. She will learn, or leave. One of the two has to happen.

 

[ScurvyRat]

I am gonna go out on a limb and say i think drug use has a lot to do with the gender pandemic. Mainly weed and its legalization but also other perception altering psicodelics that are popular among the brodudes and tech crowd but number one is weed. Weed is the brainwash drug.

Retarded take
Millions upon millions of people smoke da herb and don't troon out.
If this were even partially true, we would have infinite nigger trannies, considering something like 70-80% of all black americans smoke weed.
The tranny's drug of choice is attention
positive or negative, they thrive on people paying attention to them, it's built into the AGP fetish.

Sad, frustrating wife update.

I'm really sorry about this update, but I have to agree with the other kiwis above me. Make sure to gather copious amounts of evidence for her mental decline, it will become useful as the situation continues to degrade. Next time she starts suicide baiting, definitely get her in a 72 hour hold. At the very least, it will show that there are real consequences for saying those kinds of things.

 

[toilet_rainbow]

You had the opportunity to make that happen when she was suicide baiting. Why didn't you?

Yeah she might lie to them and they let her go. So just start calling it in every freaking time she pulls this shit. She will learn, or leave. One of the two has to happen.

Panic. Threatened to call when she pulled it again during another meltdown a day later, and have it set that I will do it again if/when it happens again.

I’m as angry with myself for that as I am sad that she had desisted but has relapsed into that thinking again. She has a good heart but she ran into the wrong crowd, so to speak.

TTD

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

If this were even partially true, we would have infinite nigger trannies, considering something like 70-80% of all black americans smoke weed.

nigger behaviour is not exactly a seal of quality, their AIDS rate is also very suspect.

Also not everyone is the same, usually troonism is autism plus the secret ingredient of cluster B disorders and those traits are definitely amplified by weed, as well as increased gullibility. I've seen the patterns too much to not notice it. So not everyone who smokes weed is a troon and not every narcissist is a troon and not everyone who is autistic is a troon but put it all in a cocktail and see the probability rise up

 

[Écho Öwl]

@toilet_rainbow

This is the book that helped me quit the sauce, for what it’s worth.

 

[Simpers]

Probably a good idea. For some kids it’s an irresistible draw when they hear/see something new and different. Especially if they pick up on the fact that it gets a reaction from mommy and daddy.

Not saying that’s your kid, but that’s how this shit starts. First they groom the kids with colorful PRIDE material IRL and online, and then they let the groomed kids recruit some more.

Fucking dire.

Yes that’s my fear. The child in question clearly enjoys the positive reaction from her own mom and dad, who spend little time with her. This was probably a surefire way to gain attention from two self-involved libtard parents. The opposite is even more common, doing something for negative attention, and I wouldn’t put it past any kid much less my own.

 

[AwfulWillow]

So today he tells me he came back from his first therapy session, and got told he's an enby. Hasn't really expressed his opinion on it so far, but given his pushover personality, he might just bite into it hook-line-sinker. Fucking unbelievable...

Tell him "so the therapist was a woman." The biggest thing for men in therapy (imo) is that you get a male doctor. We'll always feel that innate need to not look weak in front of women and even if its not conscious will cause you to forget to hammer on points that really need addressing. To me it sounds like he's just autistic and is stuck on a new fixation.