Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

[Wallace]

what does "trans" even mean except an excuse for why you can't ever be expected to improve and grow, and a reason everyone else has to coddle you forever?

I think for a lot of them, that's the goal.

 

[Athena Save Us!]

A pooner friend I slowly gave up on was like this. I'm glad she hasn't medically messed herself up, but at the same time--it's been more than ten years, "bro," what does "trans" even mean except an excuse for why you can't ever be expected to improve and grow, and a reason everyone else has to coddle you forever?

It reminds me of the killers' motivation in Scream 4 - being a survivor means that you're a hero without having to actually do anything heroic.

I think a lot of trannies and pooners, espeically the young ones, are like this. I know the tranny in my family (I've got a tranny relative and a pooner relative, but I don't know the pooner well enough to comment on her motives) was a very socially awkward teenager, likely on the spectrum (not in the broad, modern I've-got-quirks-and-am-therefore-autistic way), and suffered from depression. By trooning out, now he's special, requires special attention, and if Trump throws him in a concentration camp, he'll get mega points in oppression and heroism.

He's amazing because he's existing in spite of bigotry, and he doesn't have to try hard at life. Lots of illness fakers seem to have the same mentality. I didn't realize quite how pervasive it was until his mom (huge handmaiden, and I like to repost her Facebook spergs sometimes) started on about RFK Jr's crusade against autism. Was the problem that medical records should be private? No, it was because saying we should investigate the cause of a disorder means that you think the people with said disorder are worthless, and people aren't only worthy if they're functioning members of society with jobs and stuff.

Yeah, that's the leap she made. No wonder everyone wants to be able to go through life on easy mode. If they say you should try at something, they're secretly saying they hate the disabled.

 

[Baraadmirer]

>be me
>randomly ponder "I wonder what new projects a girl that I used to know from school is working on"
>go onto IMDb
>notices the use of "they" in the bio
>feelsbadman.jpg

 

[Pokemon Conquistador]

So my brother's wife has a granddaughter who's pooning out and she's coming to stay with them for the summer. She checks all of the boxes (autistic/artistic/dorky) and has started taking hormones. Her parents tried to save her from the Tranny Menace by keeping her off the internet, but to no avail. She just turned 18 so there's nothing they can do anyway. My brother's wife has been sheltering her and enabling her, and is herself, extremely easily influenced by goyslop propaganda. I don't want to torpedo my relationship with my brother, but I don't see how I can be around this pooner without revealing my power level. It sucks. Fuck the Tranny Cult.

 

[Wallace]

It reminds me of the killers' motivation in Scream 4 - being a survivor means that you're a hero without having to actually do anything heroic.

I think a lot of trannies and pooners, espeically the young ones, are like this. I know the tranny in my family (I've got a tranny relative and a pooner relative, but I don't know the pooner well enough to comment on her motives) was a very socially awkward teenager, likely on the spectrum (not in the broad, modern I've-got-quirks-and-am-therefore-autistic way), and suffered from depression. By trooning out, now he's special, requires special attention, and if Trump throws him in a concentration camp, he'll get mega points in oppression and heroism.

He's amazing because he's existing in spite of bigotry, and he doesn't have to try hard at life. Lots of illness fakers seem to have the same mentality. I didn't realize quite how pervasive it was until his mom (huge handmaiden, and I like to repost her Facebook spergs sometimes) started on about RFK Jr's crusade against autism. Was the problem that medical records should be private? No, it was because saying we should investigate the cause of a disorder means that you think the people with said disorder are worthless, and people aren't only worthy if they're functioning members of society with jobs and stuff.

Yeah, that's the leap she made. No wonder everyone wants to be able to go through life on easy mode. If they say you should try at something, they're secretly saying they hate the disabled.

There's some overlap between troonery and MbI.

• Both demand social deference without excessive scrutiny.
• Both demand that self-diagnosis is 100% as legitimate and reliable and meaningful as diagnosis by a doctor, and any statement otherwise is an act of bigotry.
• Both have patients who actively shop for doctors who will give them the diagnosis they want, and said doctors are incentivized to give them their diagnosis of choice.
• Both have very vague symptoms that are fit into very loose definitions with vast lists of potential symptoms that are vaguely worded and broadly defined.
• Both leave most people, including most medical personnel, scared to push back about any of this; the effort simply isn’t worth the potential damage to reputation and career.
• Both desire a way to drop out of society and have someone else take care of you, and it isn't your fault because you have this CONDITION.

 

[Clyde Frogg]

I’m still upset about this even though it happened about a year ago:

I was a very convincing pooner. (I recognize these are rare enough to call a myth, but it helped to be a “normie.”) 15+ years into living that lie, I finally decided to detransition… which meant telling my husband’s family that he’s actually had a wife this entire time.

His cousin was 16 when we told her and her parents. Her parents were relieved that I wasn’t trooning out (they all dropped by out of the blue as I was standing in the yard wearing a dress). However, this dipshit…

She waits for my husband and her parents to step outside for a moment and then rushes over to me with her phone out, showing me snapchat groups, discord servers, and art websites she’s on - all of which she’s pretending to be a boy on. She tells me, “I found out last year that I’m transmasculine!”

I tried being nice. First I made sure she understood that I was DEtransitioning, that I am female. Yep, she understood that.

I described the way I was groomed, the qualities I had that were called “proof of being trans” (such as being a tomboy and hating my body). Dipshit McGee keeps excitedly nodding along, telling me those are all the things that “helped her realize she’s a transboii.” Tells me she wants to be “respected and seen as a man.”

I’m totally floored and overwhelmed, so I privately speak with her mother later. Her mother is ENORMOUSLY disappointed - she had no idea her hyperfeminine daughter was falling for this. Apparently two girls in her high school friend group had already pooned out. She was horrified by all of the online influence I told her about.

This idiot child graduates high school next year and no longer speaks to my husband or me, despite previous closeness, I believe because I told her mommy on her. Her mom laments to me regularly that she’s still on this bullshit - she was stopped from getting a chest binder at least, but she still thinks she’s a femboy trapped in a female body or something.

I hope she grows out of it before it’s too late, but it took me a ridiculously long time.

 

[Dickinson's Real Deal]

Sorry to edit, but I also just remembered (I can't remember if this was before and/or after he told me) that he kept trying to convince me that I was trans.

My apologies for not having been so thorough with my recollection before posting the quoted post, but I remembered something else about that guy. He told me that his ideal body type would be like mine, but with breasts. Being skinwalked by a MtF but as a male as far as I know is some uncharted territory.

I think the fact that he basically said he wanted a males body just shows to me that he has body image issues rather than actual dysphoria or whatever; I don't think he would have these thoughts if he was slim.

 

[Hard Right Cross-Claim]

Yeah, that's the leap she made. No wonder everyone wants to be able to go through life on easy mode. If they say you should try at something, they're secretly saying they hate the disabled.

There was a whole special on the news a while back about the possibility of curing blindness or for avoiding congenital blindness between generations. They interviewed a (blind) parent and they said they would not want that for their child. Not because they had some sort objections to genetic treatments or interventions and not because they had any objection on the grounds that it, as many on the left might phrase it, "makes disabled people lesser". No, the objection was that their child wouldn't get to participate in the blindness support system because they would actually be able to perceive the world with their eyes and thus would miss out on the structural coddling that mom and/or dad got from the system.

 

[Athena Save Us!]

There was a whole special on the news a while back about the possibility of curing blindness or for avoiding congenital blindness between generations. They interviewed a (blind) parent and they said they would not want that for their child. Not because they had some sort objections to genetic treatments or interventions and not because they had any objection on the grounds that it, as many on the left might phrase it, "makes disabled people lesser". No, the objection was that their child wouldn't get to participate in the blindness support system because they would actually be able to perceive the world with their eyes and thus would miss out on the structural coddling that mom and/or dad got from the system.

Yikes! I find it funny how skewed some people's thinking is. While the disabled have value as human beings, as a parent, wouldn't you want cures for them? Wouldn't you want to give them more opportunities in life? Instead, we decided we don't need to address the prevalence of autism because we've decided it's a superpower and don't want functional kids. This crazy parent doesn't want their kid to see and be able to experience the world in a fuller way because then they might have to be self-sufficient.

We're living in crazy times.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

I was a very convincing pooner. (I recognize these are rare enough to call a myth, but it helped to be a “normie.”) 15+ years into living that lie, I finally decided to detransition… which meant telling my husband’s family that he’s actually had a wife this entire time.

This isn't the tranny fanfic thread.

 

[Adolf Kitler]

The little brother of my best friend trooned out at the age of 6, i'm not fucking joking…

I moved out from my hometown a lot of years ago (this happened in 2017, the same year i moved out from there) And since then I haven't heard anything else from my best friend and his brother. I remember that his parents were announcing to everyone that their son was now a girl. They even gathered our whole class together and talked to us about gender ideology, as well as showing us some documentaries about it. The boy changed his name to a super weird and kind of unpronounceable one (I think it was Itziar or something like that). They even painted a bench with the tranny flag on the seafront in his honor.

As I said before, I haven't lived there for years and I don't know anything else about them, but honestly, I don't think it ended very well.

Arnau, if for some reason you happen to read this, I just want to tell you that I hope you're okay. I miss you so much and I want to continue remembering you as that shy kid who knew a ton about video games and made us all laugh with his jokes...

 

[Clyde Frogg]

This isn't the tranny fanfic thread.

Not a fanfic. Believe what you want about my life.

 

[Aunt Carol]

They interviewed a (blind) parent and they said they would not want that for their child. Not because they had some sort objections to genetic treatments or interventions and not because they had any objection on the grounds that it, as many on the left might phrase it, "makes disabled people lesser". No, the objection was that their child wouldn't get to participate in the blindness support system because they would actually be able to perceive the world with their eyes and thus would miss out on the structural coddling that mom and/or dad got from the system.

Man, I guess "I want my kid to follow in the tradition of blind gibs" is more honest than "...Deaf culture," but it's a tough call.

 

[Kerry Benton]

Another L for me… my pooner ex-friend who I thought detransitioned has retransitioned and is going harder on trans stuff than before.
She is the reason I leaned so hard into trans stuff for so long. As a dumb teen, I bought into the idea that transitioning would be the cure for her eating disorders/self harm/suicidal ideation. It did not.
She’s already had top surgery and a hysto so I guess it would be very hard to wrestle with detransition but I’m still so sad for her.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

The little brother of my best friend trooned out at the age of 6, i'm not fucking joking…

He didn't troon out, he was trooned out by his parents.

 

[Comp0site Specter]

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At least for the FTM crowd, it can't be understated how much just being accepted and wanted for their feminine traits and concealed beauty can do to reverse that damage. Its part of the reason the hoodie thing is so prevalent in that specific group. They're concealing themselves because they don't feel wanted. I've seen several that went from being absolutely certain they were trans-whatever to looking forward to living normal lives and entertaining thoughts of parenthood (for those not already across the point of no return).

The "I can fix her committee"

 

[Lady Round Buns]

A couple weeks ago, the eldest texted me. She said she's still upset with me and some of the things I say, but that she wanted to be able to be a family again. I held in the urge to remind her I hadn't said anything against her in the first place, and told her yes that would be very nice. That we'd just avoid topics that we know will lead to arguments which we were mostly (at least on my end, anyway) doing anyway.

She came over the other day to help her sister get ready for Prom, and it was really nice seeing her. We joked around and all had a nice time. I really missed her a lot, and I'm glad she's willing to talk to me again. She'd gone to see the Minecraft movie with two of her siblings (they used to play all the time as kids) and she said she missed all of us being together and having a good time. I'm so relieved, and I'm hoping things will stay like this and we won't have another incident of her getting pissed at me for a silly reason. I guess we'll see. She's toned down the gender shit too, hasn't mentioned anything at all, so that's good too. Just going to keep my fingers crossed.

 

[Online Fossil]

went out with some friends recently and met my first true and honest woman irl. I don’t know him, he’s the husband of a friend of a friend. From some social media sleuthing they’ve been together for over a decade, prob each other’s first and only relationship, both massive weeb nerds into your typical anime and vidya, he was a quiet skinny twinky guy, but worst of all they have a toddler child together. Like many of them it seems he became too online during the pandemic and fell into it over the last couple years. Wife is deep into the kool-aid herself, staying with him and calling herself a lesbian. Yuck.

I still don’t understand why all of this infected geek spaces so hard. I miss 20 years ago when you could just play video games and nerds were some of the most accepting that women can have “masculine” interests and guys can be soft and not into sports and whatever. Now it seems young geek men are expected to either choose to be some Joe Rogen red pill incel type OR follow Breadtube commies and eventually troon out.

It’s regressive and makes me sad.

I found this guy’s Twitter (why are they all addicted to Twitter and insist on sticking around even when everyone else who remains there are hard right weirdos? Truly the worst site on the internet) and it’s all retweets of yuri fanart and cute anime girls and posts about how awesome being a transbian is. I don’t doubt that some of these people do feel body dysphoria but this is so clearly a fetish for this one, gross.

I sort of get why some sad incel would fall into the whole “if I can’t get a gf I’ll become the gf” thing, but why someone with a whole ass wife and kid would...

 

[Maxwell Carter]

They're not allowed to stop people from self-harming in the psych ward here so it's very apparent who do it for attention

Late but holy fuck how is that even a thing? I thought in psych wards/mental institutions they're supposed to... I don't fucking know, make it so the people in there don't fucking kill themselves?

 

[⋖ cørdion ⋗]

Late but holy fuck how is that even a thing? I thought in psych wards/mental institutions they're supposed to... I don't fucking know, make it so the people in there don't fucking kill themselves?

It's out of their hands and enforced politically. They can stand next to the patient and be like "nooo don't do that unu". They're also very proud of having reduced the amount of restraining with belts they do by 70% - at the cost of employees leaving at record speed due to being fed up with the harassment it's meant to avoid.

There's also a literal xray area that they're not allowed to use, because either they have to scan everyone or no one. They're not allowed to do justified one-offs, and it took a literal knife in a fucking cake for them to go "aight maybe we should scan everyone".

Really opens your eyes to what lil ma' might experience in the hospital, surrounded by equally incompetent staff.