Sam Hyde

[Swamp_Donkey]

i dont understand how someone could be dumb enough to think sam is spending time searching for the elusive quality black t-shirt

Tbf he did exactly that with the cashmere com98(?) beanies that he ended up not selling because they were too expensive. There are lots of clips where he or some crew are wearing different beanie samples.

Also I could be wrong but I don't think the cashstar shirts are DTG. I've made DTG of my own and the way the ink sits on the fabric is very different from the Dojo tee I have. DTG is extremely prone to peeling and cracking compared to most other shirts I have. I could be wrong though.

Edit: Actually all of the Fishtank (s1 and s2 specifically) merch was DTG print on demand dog shit. They were doing exactly what you're complaining about with all that stuff. I never bought any of that crap fyi.

Edit 2: I looked closely at the Dojo tee out of curiosity and I'm fairly certain it's silk screened. Here's a photo of a section with white. Am I wrong in thinking DTG printers all use white ink instead of CMYK (idk what it's called when they overlay primary colors to mix other colors)

 

[Sneedifarms]

Sam is definitely not just using Gildan blanks for his tees. There’s a stream somewhere out there where he talks through all the different blank suppliers he tried, why he rejected the ones he rejected, and which blank supplier he ended up going with. I recall him mentioning that LA Apparel had good blank hoodies but he found the neck tape on the tees too thick. That’s not something you’d just know without sourcing multiple blank samples for comparison.

 

[Swamp_Donkey]

Sam is definitely not just using Gildan blanks for his tees. There’s a stream somewhere out there where he talks through all the different blank suppliers he tried and why he rejected the ones he rejected and which blank supplier he ended up going. I recall him mentioning that LA Apparel had good blank hoodies but he found the neck tape on the tees too thick. That’s not something you’d just know without sourcing multiple blank samples for comparison.

That's what I thought too but it's been so long I didn't want to say. For a while I was trying to source the blanks because they fit me well. I think you mentioned LA apparel before but I never ordered one to compare (I stopped looking because I found H&M shirts that I like more).

 

[Sneedifarms]

That's what I thought too but it's been so long I didn't want to say. For a while I was trying to source the blanks because they fit me well. I think you mentioned LA apparel before but I never ordered one to try (I stopped looking because I found H&M shirts that I like more).

I don't know about the latest Cashstar tees, but I recall him mentioning that the screening for one run or another of his merch tees was done by some New England boomer that was a royal pain in the ass to work with but did good work with printing. I have no idea if the same guy is responsible for the actual shirt production, probably not now that I think about it but who knows at this point. Too bad I can't find the original stream clip on YouTube, probably because it's too hyperspecific and autistic for anyone to really care about.

As for shirt recommendations:

Spoiler: T-shirt autism

I know Sam made a big deal out of not liking thick neck tape on the LA Apparel stuff, but it's actually a good thing because it prevents the neckline of your tee from stretching out and wearing out prematurely. I don't know how much you're willing to spend on T-shirts, but there is a whole rabbithole of autism regarding shirt construction that you can really get into depending on what exactly you desire from your shirts; if we start looking into loopwheeled shirts (loopwheelers are an old knitting machine that knit in a tube, so the final garment has no side seams) or heavyweight shirts (9oz+) prices can skyrocket really quickly. One thing I will say is to avoid fast fashion brands like H&M, Zara, Shein, etc. as that stuff is really constructed like absolute crap by brown people in sweatshops making pittance wages and will wear down extremely quickly.

 

[von Hapasbourg]

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Is that Turkey Tom in 1:00?

 

[mister fireworks]

Tbf he did exactly that with the cashmere com98(?) beanies that he ended up not selling because they were too expensive. There are lots of clips where he or some crew are wearing different beanie samples.

Also I could be wrong but I don't think the cashstar shirts are DTG. I've made DTG of my own and the way the ink sits on the fabric is very different from the Dojo tee I have. DTG is extremely prone to peeling and cracking compared to most other shirts I have. I could be wrong though.

Edit: Actually all of the Fishtank (s1 and s2 specifically) merch was DTG print on demand dog shit. They were doing exactly what you're complaining about with all that stuff. I never bought any of that crap fyi.

Edit 2: I looked closely at the Dojo tee out of curiosity and I'm fairly certain it's silk screened. Here's a photo of a section with white. Am I wrong in thinking DTG printers all use white ink instead of CMYK (idk what it's called when they overlay primary colors to mix other colors)

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the fishtank stuff might be heat transferred if it’s cracking. I’ve made a lot of t-shirts and in my experience the issue with dtg is that it fades a lot after x number of washes (x depending on aafew factors) and especially on black if it’s not prepped correctly it will fade. The close up you attached looks like a screen print. For a screen print with that level of detail and color the printer must take the graphic and convert each color to a layer and for each layer/color they have to burn a separate screen. Sam said that the design for manufacturer part was what held everything up that would’ve been much more believable.

The faggots in here acting like placing an order with La apparel , ascolour, and gildan etc for sample blanks and then “evaluating” them by washing them a few times and trying them on would take more than 4-5 days for anyone to figure out what to use is so funny. but maybe Sam actually did implement a long term, rigorous testing plan for the shirts because he knows his fan base demands and deserves only the highest quality.

 

[Swamp_Donkey]

the fishtank stuff might be heat transferred if it's cracking.

As I said in my post, I did not buy any fishtank merch. All I know is they said it was print on demand slop. My point was that you should amend your complaint to be about the fishtank merch since it's actually the quality you think the cashstar merch is.

The faggots in here acting like placing an order with La apparel , ascolour, and gildan etc for sample blanks and then “evaluating” them by washing them a few times and trying them on would take more than 4-5 days for anyone to figure out what to use is so funny. but maybe Sam actually did implement a long term, rigorous testing plan for the shirts because he knows his fan base demands and deserves only the highest quality

Is your complaint just that it took too long? I don't even really follow why you're trying to use cashstar as an argument.

 

[mister fireworks]

As I said in my post, I did not buy any fishtank merch. All I know is they said it was print on demand slop. My point was that you should amend your complaint to be about the fishtank merch since it's actually the quality you think the cashstar merch is.



Is your complaint just that it took too long? I don't even really follow why you're trying to use cashstar as an argument.

I mentioned the lie about the several month delay being due to Sam’s exhaustive high quality blank selection process because someone earlier said the shirts were an example of him getting better at not scamming people. The shirts were one of the few things that I thought turned out well but of course, he can’t even get t-shirts made in a reasonable amount of time and he has so little respect for his audience that he knows they will unquestionably believe anything his says so he just makes up some shit about how hard this easy thing was to do.

Also the chamonix stuff uses a $4.75 comfort colors t-shirt and I got one and it’s fine.

 

[Noble Redditor]

sam never stops grifting

You have no idea what grifting means. Here's the part where I have to sound like some dick rider because I actually pay attention to stuff. A grifter hops from scene to scene, trend to trend without any real conviction, looking for a profit. Sam does not do that. Having a bunch of different projects and revenue streams is not grifting. Having a failed project is not grifting. Finding success in an extremely unlikely industry is not grifting. Strategizing release dates, and making sure that your team is financially stable after having a reputation for doing the opposite, is not grifting. Having some merch orders slip through the mail is not grifting.
Faggots such as yourself say something like, "well if they don't like being kicked off the platform maybe they should just make their own" and then call that person a grifter when they actually do it. Or are you the faggot who said" "Sam claims to hate Indians so much yet he uses Gumroad which makes him a hypocrite."

Here is your galaxy brain plan, in your own words: quickly rush to release World Peace 2 as fast as humanly possible and then.... idk sink back into obscurity. A project released too slowly is a grift. A project released too quickly is a grift.

I don't like podcasts in general and I think PGL is OK at best but I see it more as a compromise than a grift. Low effort content with very high returns to fund the projects he actually cares about, which is what he's been doing. If you want to see YouTube content creators profit off of sketch comedy, go back to 2010. It's not a thing anymore, especially when you have a history of getting your entire channel shoa'd. People pay for podcasts.
Or what... only produce high budget sketches once or twice a year and promote it to a dwindling and aging audience? Did you ever even watch Happy World Daddy? Nobody else did either, even though it's S tier Sam content.

I do think that being a devoted paypig is a mental illness. I can't decide if it's better or worse than paying for onlyfans but no paypigs means no content. It's also funny how you're kvetching about him selling shirts. So he can't sell shirts and he can't have paypigs but he still has to fund the operation somehow. Sam put too much effort and thought in the shirt quality. He wanted his stuff to be comparable to a higher end streetwear brand and not some shitty YouTuber using the cheapest blanks and bad prints. I think he finally rethought that with the Fishtank merch because that was produced much faster iirc. Sam spent an hour talking about different types of plastic before. He cares about the details in his stuff, sometimes more than the overall content itself it seems. Compare his PGL set design and presentation to significantly higher budget podcasts like Joe Rogan and Theo Von.

 

[Swamp_Donkey]

You have no idea what grifting means

This point annoys me too. There are plenty of things to complain about with Sam but "grifting" is pretty low on the list. Especially compared to every other streamer who ignores donations and sells dogshit "merch".

Even someone like Hasan, who I despise, might not even qualify as a grifter because he might actually believe what he says. A True & Honest grifter is someone like the Liver King. A guy who sold supplements while lying and taking enough hgh to kill a horse.

 

[mister fireworks]

You have no idea what grifting means. Here's the part where I have to sound like some dick rider

Grifting meaning that he sells products to people he believes to be too dumb and brainlessly dedicated to simping for him that does not care about the quality or execution beyond making money off of it. But I suppose my real complaint is with people like you. If Sam's fans stopped paying him for garbage like PGL and superchats and ignored his horrible call-in show and refused to pre-pay for stuff with no expectation or complaint about having to wait an extraordinarily long time for it then I think *magically * his output would improve dramatically.

My original point was that there is no reason to give sam money for wp2 before its even released because a) sam's fans have been giving him money for garbage for years and b) it might also be garbage like everything else has been for years.

you're the faggot having imaginary arguments with people about sam building his own platform or getting rid of his gumroad because of pajeets. ok if its not grifting to sell subscriptions to a podcast that is unlistenable and solicit superchats to hit stream goals while chewing and spitting near the mic, then what would you call what sam does? How are NFTs not a grift?

Sam's army of dick suckers are a real monkey's paw for him because on one hand they will buy his garbage and believe every word out of his mouth about it even if it conflicts with reality. On the other hand, having an audience with no standards that he doesn't have to respect means that the only thing that would motivate him do more than the bare minimum would be his internal drive to make entertaining art. When was the last time he did that?

 

[Swamp_Donkey]

Grifting meaning that he sells products to people he believes to be too dumb and brainlessly

Maybe I'm the odd man out but I thought grifting meant specifically lying/scamming/cheating. Do you consider any and all podcasts a grift simply because they're low effort?

 

[BingBongDingDong]

My original point was that there is no reason to give sam money

Hey, something we can agree upon!
He has enough whales throwing cash at him that you dont need to. I have my Sam hyde shooter shirt and think its great. Ill probably get another shirt eventually as long as its not fishtank trash.

 

[mister fireworks]

Maybe I'm the odd man out but I thought grifting meant specifically lying/scamming/cheating. Do you consider any and all podcasts a grift simply because they're low effort?

yeah actually you're right grifting is not the right word. but then what would be the most appropriate way to describe someone who is ostensibly supposed to make entertaining content and once did it fairly consistently but for the past several years has put zero effort into it despite taking his fan's money and monetizing every single thing? I mean specifically PGL, his awful livestreams, and his gay call-in show.

Hey, something we can agree upon!
He has enough whales throwing cash at him that you dont need to. I have my Sam hyde shooter shirt and think its great. Ill probably get another shirt eventually as long as its not fishtank trash.

the funny thing is that he could make decent money doing a limited reprint of all his shirts and it would take a tiny fraction of the effort of the first run. people are trying to get hundreds of dollars reselling them on depop so it would be funny and good for the fans if he bothered to do it.

 

[56 others]

I own a sam shirt and theyre comfy, durable, and the print has survived very well over the years.
In non-fag news, the Sam Hyde channel has started a Lofi styled 24/7 hang with Sam livestream where it plays old Sam skits, hydewars, and commercials:

 

[Swamp_Donkey]

yeah actually you're right grifting is not the right word. but then what would be the most appropriate way to describe someone who is ostensibly supposed to make entertaining content and once did it fairly consistently but for the past several years has put zero effort into it despite taking his fan's money and monetizing every single thing? I mean specifically PGL, his awful livestreams, and his gay call-in show.

I think it would be a lot more accurate to accuse him of being lazy. I may not agree entirely but it makes a lot more sense than grifting. Podcasts are undoubtedly lazy low effort content, but it really depends on how much work he's doing on projects behind the scenes imho.

Edit: also I don't understand the whole monetizing issue. If dumb fans want to buy some overpriced shit from him that's their prerogative. I've donated a couple superchats to the MMA Guru to pay him back for the few dozen hours of slop I've watched during work. Hell I even paid Null $50 for a gay name tag because his site is funny. Btw the only money I've ever given to Sam was for shirts and Zipp.

 

[FieldPiece]

I hope there's more skits done by Erick Hayden. I didn't really get the joke of the CEO Erick Hayden sketch until I worked in construction and realized that the CEOs of construction companies are exactly like that and now it makes me laugh my ass off. His construction channel is also a fun watch.

 

[Noble Redditor]

the funny thing is that he could make decent money doing a limited reprint of all his shirts and it would take a tiny fraction of the effort of the first run. people are trying to get hundreds of dollars reselling them on depop so it would be funny and good for the fans if he bothered to do it.

Let me get this straight... he is lazy, and doesn't put in enough effort and his only goal is to rip people off and the only way he can redeem himself in your eyes is to reprint old merch in lower quality.

 

[Kirby vacuums]

I hope there's more skits done by Erick Hayden. I didn't really get the joke of the CEO Erick Hayden sketch until I worked in construction and realized that the CEOs of construction companies are exactly like that and now it makes me laugh my ass off. His construction channel is also a fun watch.

Eric is the best mde member, his scuffed relator stream with Nick was peak mde content.

 

[raisinlove]

The “buying everything from Sam makes you a simp paypig faggot” argument is extremely gay. There’s three musicians I adore that I will always buy every record they put out regardless if one might not be as good as another but I like the music and listen to it a lot. Does that make me a “paypig?” No it makes me a fan.

I love and support MDE and will always buy new stuff from the boys. I got extreme peace XL the second I could? Why? Because I’m a fan. If I wore graphic tshirts id probably have a couple too.

The paypig/grifting shit must be a zoomer concept of kids too spoiled by torrenting music and movies and tv shows who have no concept of paying for the things they like for convenience, physical media (rare nowadays, would have been nice for MDE stuff but it never was the original intent) or just because you like an appreciate what an artist does.

I think this spoiled zoomer mentality Is exemplified in how many creators feel they have to include the donator’s name in a special thanks or “tier list” of contributors now so they can feel entitled bc everyone needs a participation trophy.