The Australian totalitarian megathread - She won't be right mate.

Antipodean political lineages are a bit weird, you've got Labor which are the designated succdems obviously but then there's Liberals who are (were) your Conservatives (?) and then a bunch of 3rd/4th parties with silly names who dissolve and reform themselves constantly. Is this just a consequence of the compulsory voting thing?
 
Antipodean political lineages are a bit weird, you've got Labor which are the designated succdems obviously but then there's Liberals who are (were) your Conservatives (?) and then a bunch of 3rd/4th parties with silly names who dissolve and reform themselves constantly. Is this just a consequence of the compulsory voting thing?
The compulsory voting thing at best affects how many third parties there are in a very small way.

The main thing really is because third parties are sometimes a legitimate option, people have less incentive to play red vs. blue team sports. It still happens but it isn't in every electorate.

Some of the third parties have been going strong for a long time. The ones that dissolve and reform are usually because they are started by sitting MPs who lose their seat or aren't charismatic enough to carry a new party.
 
Antipodean political lineages are a bit weird, you've got Labor which are the designated succdems obviously but then there's Liberals who are (were) your Conservatives (?) and then a bunch of 3rd/4th parties with silly names who dissolve and reform themselves constantly. Is this just a consequence of the compulsory voting thing?
It's actually pretty simple. It started out as Free Trade vs Protectionists with Labor as the third party, and then once the trade issue was settled, the two bigger parties joined forces to become the anti-socialists against Labor, but every so often the anti-socialists would need to reform due to internal squabbles. So there's been the Commonwealth Liberals, the Nationalists, the United Australia Party and finally the Liberals, so named to indicate that they were an anti-socialist party. Menzies wanted to avoid using the name 'conservative' to avoid appearing backward-looking. The Country/National Party is just the rural variant of the anti-socialists, while the Liberals and their predecessors are the urban anti-socialists.

So since 1910, it's always been Labor vs Not Labor. Nothing to do with compulsory voting.
 
Some of the third parties have been going strong for a long time. The ones that dissolve and reform are usually because they are started by sitting MPs who lose their seat or aren't charismatic enough to carry a new party.
And half of them seem to have Pauline Hanson in them :thinking:
So since 1910, it's always been Labor vs Not Labor. Nothing to do with compulsory voting.
You'd think making people actually vooote would do something about the problem of the diarchy but there's no doubt some bullshit threshold quota thing to take care of that too. Seeing the consequences of compelled voting for you guys is what put pretty much everyone else in the anglosphere off of the idea so your suffering isn't for naught at least.
 
Liberals and National coalition has split.
Another loss for the Greens, they aren't even in the top three anymore.
I wonder if this also signals the end of the Liberals? Like how the United Australia Party was deleted and replaced with the Liberal Party in the 1940s.
Its already happened in the UK with Reform effectively replacing the Conservative party. Wouldn't shock me at all if a similar thing happened here.
Probably not in today's terms, in the same way Albanese was going to lose in a blow out if you polled in March.

It could happen if you get the same shit storm of incompetence since March with the Liberals multiplied by 10 years. If they even slightly get back to basics and make some strong policy choices that resonate with the middle voters or if Labor continually and more expertly shit the bed on immigration then a third party has no chance.

It takes a lot of work to build an electoral coalition from nothing, even hard when you are gunning for that position from an angle that is already taken by someone else. You have to pray for several miracles to align, like repeated incompetence, lack of action in certain high interest and low addressed policies, and to have someone with the brains and tongue to keep it together. Reform has made massive strides and yet still isn't the largest party - it's essentially UKIP 2.0, and it's taken over 30 years since that was founded to get to where it is now. Farage was a founding member in 1993 and brought it to relevance when he lead it to minor success in the early 2000s as an MEP, eventually becoming the largest party from the UK in the EU parliament by 2014. They were undercut by the Conservatives promising a Brexit referendum, and now as Reform they've spent another 10 years getting into the reins of power.

They are finally at the precipice after 30 years of politicking, and even then a lot of that has just been due to being the party that was there and established in the wings after 20 years of Labor and Conservatives failing at the very game they designed.

If you want to look to Reform as inspiration, it would essentially mean looking to a party that exists now with members in parliament and approximately 5% or more of the vote, focusing on issues that the majority want but are not addressed. That is a candidate to take control within 10 to 15 years. Otherwise you will be looking at a minimum of 30 years.

The above criteria basically limits you to the Nationals due to the recent news. They have a significant portion of seats to build a base (the next largest group is 1 seat versus their 15), they are a very established party with a strong political pedigree, but they can also diverge from the Liberals and build their own path if they so choose. It's unlikely to happen, but I'd watch this space - if the Nationals grabbed this opportunity while Labor and Liberals argue over which country they need hundreds of millions of immigrants from, the Nationals could build a base in 2028 as a strong anti-immigration, pro-protectionist, pro-Australian party and probably win it all in 2031.

The Nationals, unfortunately, do not have the brains and tongues to even think of this option, let alone do it effectively.
 
Listening to the money cafe podcast and I so want to punch Stephen Mayne in the face. Some choice quotes from that retard:

“It's an affordability crisis for people attempting to enter the market without mum and dad capital behind them. But it's an absolute bonanza for the owners of the $10 trillion of property. And that's owned largely by Australians.”

“A $10 trillion crisis of wealth.”

“It's a crisis that's born out of our success. Everyone wants to live here. We are a great country. This is the price of being the best country in the world, in part.”

“Alan, I'm not saying get students to work on building sites. I'm saying import bricklayers from India, import carpenters from Vietnam. Because of the Labour Party connection with the blue-collar workers in the unions, that's where politically it gets blocked.”

From The Money Café with Alan Kohler: The Mandalorian of Currency, 21 May 2025
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Alan, with the depressing fact we are fucked, and its basically all the fault of immigration:
“However, I would just like to point out and take five minutes of our time to say that in the quarterly essay, I started it by showing a couple of graphs showing that house prices started taking off in the year 2000, both in relation to GDP and relation to incomes. It was quite clear that up to that point, incomes and house prices rose at about the same rate, then they diverged in the year 2000.

So, the question then, which is a lot of what the quarterly essay was about, was answering the question of what the hell happened in 2000.

Tax.

And the answer is four things, right? There wasn't just one thing, there were four things. There was the capital gains tax discount, there was the reintroduction of first home buyer grants, there was a series of interest rate cuts by the Reserve Bank in response to the us.com crash, which did not result in an Australian recession, but the Reserve Bank acted as if or was concerned about a recession, so it cut interest rates five times.

And finally, there was a big increase, a big opening up of student visas to people from India and China. That was in the year 2001. And that resulted in a huge increase in immigration between 2005 and 2010.

Immigration tripled from 100,000 to 300,000. All of those four things related to demand. So what happened in the year 2000 was a big surge in demand.

And that surge in demand is the cause of our housing affordability crisis.”
“But the thing is that we're in the situation now where politically we can't actually do anything about demand. We're not going to change the tax system.

They're doing first-time buy grants willy-nilly. They're not able to cut immigration for some reason. And the Reserve Bank is cutting interest rates again.”

From The Money Café with Alan Kohler: The Mandalorian of Currency, 21 May 2025
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but here's a little ray of sunshine.
Based on Felix's part but he should be smarter next time and not get caught. That being said these laws are complete shit and the legal system is so lazy they'll probably throw most of these charges in the bin after letting him rot for a while then quietly offer a spent conviction if he prostrates himself in front of a magistrate.

It's unfortunate that although he's not yet guilty, he's guilty in the eyes of everyone and regardless of what happens his name is now mud. Meanwhile pedophiles and rapists whose crimes are not newsworthy are able to slither back into society as regular people aren't afforded the privilege of knowing who are the monsters that lurk among them.

A spent conviction wouldn't be too bad, but it does mean he's locked in prison island forevermore as if he tries to obtain a visa basically anywhere else in the world, they don't care if a conviction is spent and want to know about it. Having a squeaky clean criminal record is the preference.
 
Shameless racism... How can she whinge about a little paint when she's a non-Aboriginal "Welcoming" people into land that hasn't belonged to her for 50,000 years.
At most she should put "All Acknowledged" up instead. Bloody hell, she could probably even squeeze an extra virtue signalling flag under the extra three letters.
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Other than the one about importing bricklayers and carpenters from Vietnam, what is so retarded about this?

He thinks housing isn't a crisis. He loves the fact that Melbourne is full of international students, it makes the place "vibrant". He loves slobbering all over migrant cocks, just so his house price can stay high.

He wants more international students, more migrants! He is always calling out the lack of questions from female listeners.
 
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Shameless racism... How can she whinge about a little paint when she's a non-Aboriginal "Welcoming" people into land that hasn't belonged to her for 50,000 years.
At most she should put "All Acknowledged" up instead. Bloody hell, she could probably even squeeze an extra virtue signalling flag under the extra three letters.
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Its the year of the spear my friends, when the deluge of spears descend upon the wh*te (Demon, devil, ice monkey, troglodyte) man, you better believe that your soul will be judged by the dreamtime god Baiame.

"There will be a time in your life when you come face to face with a fever dream heart startler. It's presence shakes you until you never go remotely back to who you used to be because you just looked through the alien side. We're living in biblical foretold alien side times for damned sure."
 
He thinks housing isn't a crisis. He loves the fact that Melbourne is full of international students, it makes the place "vibrant". He loves slobbering all over migrant cocks, just so his house price can stay high.

He wants more international students, more migrants! He is always calling out the lack of questions from female listeners.
Mind my retardation I didn't realise the last quote was from a different person.
 
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Its the year of the spear my friends, when the deluge of spears descend upon the wh*te (Demon, devil, ice monkey, troglodyte) man, you better believe that your soul will be judged by the dreamtime god Baiame.

"There will be a time in your life when you come face to face with a fever dream heart startler. It's presence shakes you until you never go remotely back to who you used to be because you just looked through the alien side. We're living in biblical foretold alien side times for damned sure."
well said Murray! The rainbow serpent shines on you today. They got da bloody stolen generation from us black fellas. acusing us of stealing a generator, i told da bloody Queensland jacks that i don't know anyfing about da stolen generator. Can't wait for the day of the spear
 
The Coalition fracture is exactly what was needed. The notion that only a combined conservative force could ever upend the "peoples party" is prima facie absurd. Isn't the majority of Australian media meant to lean conservative? Oh Muh Gawd King, what is going on?

The Coalition has been coasting on Howards gains from way back in the 90's, coming off a dominant Labor (utterly CIA cucked btw) tenure filled with shattered expectations and "the recession we needed to have". Shorten should have won in 2019 but he was tall dwarf who no one took seriously, claiming 100% of aussie cars would be electric and many other dumb proclamations.

Scomo pissed in the pool then gave the (Right) to a literal demon. Labor are going to butcher their next two terms by being Half-In Harrisons as usual, cucking to Corporates, bowing to Unions, all the typical Labor deficiencies. Albo forever playing catchup with his media manager. Libs have a decade to reform, what comes from the sloppit is anyones guess.
 
10 years from now I fear we'll have a Muslim party and houses will cost a billion dollars. We will suffer brownouts on a regular basis because all the coal plants were shut down. It'll be just like living in India, right down to the demographic experience.
don't worry the wealthy and the elites won't suffer, just us white plebs
 
WTF is happening in Melbourne?

Melbourne shopping centre in lockdown after reports of stabbing​

A shopping centre in Melbourne’s north is in lockdown while police investigate reports of a stabbing.

A Victoria Police spokesperson said there were reports of numerous people fighting at Northland Shopping Centre in Preston.

"The shopping centre has been locked down while the incident is ongoing," the spokesperson said.

The spokesperson said more information would be available once specifics have been confirmed.

Vision from the scene shows police and ambulances swarming the centre.

A spokesperson for Ambulance Victoria said it is believed at least one person was being treated for injuries.
From https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-25/northland-shopping-centre-incident/105334604
 
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