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A thread for all things historical - good, bad, or neutral. Just give us the facts, Sir.

First up is an interesting clarification concerning Nazi Germany and their supposed obsession with blonde hair & blue eyes and willingness to harm people if they didn’t have them. Whilst Nazi leadership did indeed promote those desirable traits in their propaganda, the reality is quite different when it comes to how people were treated - most Germans did not have blonde hair.

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If you read Rosenberg's myth of the 20th century, there is a chapter where he denies nordicist supremacy and sees national socialism as an "anti racist" union of germany. Anti-racist here in the sense of the european races; i.e. nordic, alpinind, celtid, dinarid etc etc
 
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If you read Rosenberg's myth of the 20th century, there is a chapter where he denies nordicist supremacy and sees national socialism as an "anti racist" union of germany. Anti-racist here in the sense of the european races; i.e. nordic, alpinind, celtid, dinarid etc etc
Yes, I think he understood that the various European ethnicities had much more in common with each other than they did with any of the non-European groups.
 
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The sealing of the Inner-German border and construction of the Berlin Wall were totally justified.

6/7 of "refugees" to the West were nothing but economic migrants who decided to steal from the GDR by getting free education and other benefits and then defecting. Absolute scum.
 
There's nothing wrong with calling it the Byzantine Empire, anyone who starts shit about "oh they called themselves Romans and shit!" is either a massive Paradox map game autist, or a swarthy """Greek""" living in a free government apartment in Dusseldorf.
 
The Weimar Republic is not, as drooling fucktards lately have stated, how democracy dies. It was actually the exact situation where democracy could not have worked in any circumstance, given the post-war economic and social strife. And the big unspoken truth of the Weimar Republic: it was entirely the Social Democrats fault. Unable to form a coalition with the parties on the right out of principle and mutual animosity, their continued and violent put downs of the communists and more left leaning parties in Germany such as Blutmai meant that they couldn't even unite their own side of the spectrum. Even the Centrist parties didn't like them because their more left and right wing factions found them odious.

Nazis rose out of a vaccum of the SPD failing to run effectively and actually join with other groups until it was too late. Which was fine until people started getting tired of their nonsense and started looking to radical options. For the right leaning people, it was the Nazis, for the left, the KPD. Even worse, because the KPD was growing, the centrists found the Nazis the more palatable of the two in general. The centrists would die on the vine, and the German people should mercilessly shit on the SPD to this day for fucking up so bad.
 
Sparta is my favorite historical paradox.
Caveat, much of this is a more modern within the last few years, understanding of Sparta.

Sparta is this odd mix of staunchly conservative (for ancient Greece) and somewhat modern progressive.

Spartan women held massive power in the country. The way Spartan property rights worked is the wife would inherit the land, owned the land, and was expected to maintain the land. The men were expected to go off and die and the Spartan government needed the land worked and farms producing to feed the country. They couldn't afford constant land turn over and figuring out who owns what, so women owned the property. A very practical point of view.

Where this gets kind of wild is Spartan law kind of prevented people from being unmarried, so husband dies, wife inherits all the land, wife remarried, and Spartan men obviously had their own land from the gov't and their birthright; guess who goes off and dies in war again, Wife inherits all that land. At certain points in Spartan history a handful of women owned I believe up to 80% of actual Spartan land (this is land defined in the classic homeland of Sparta, there was more land on the peninsula).

This is where some of you think, "well Sparta is a monarchy so what does it matter if they own the land (and have massive wealth)" and youd be wrong. Sparta in practice was as much of a monarchy as modern England is (Sparta had 2 kings, but only 1 would "rule" at a time) Sparta in function is very much like a democratic republic. They had a congress style organization, a senate like organization, and a 3rd elder organization that led the whole show and worked as tie breakers. All day to day functions went through these groups, the kings had little power. They sat on the final elder council. During times of war, that's when they would be "in control". But that control extended to the conducting of the war. The king on campaign would tell the other king (not always 2 were alive) and that king would make sure Sparta bent to the need of the campaign. But Sparta wasn't always on campaign and if you are aware of the movie 300, it wasn't so simple for a king to just declare war.

All of that said, guess who the elder council would listen to. These women who owned massive amounts of land and could easily sway the country.

I also find the disconnect with the report of their "slavery" system and the function of it to be at ends. But that can be another post.
 
Been listening to "Panzer Ace: The Memoirs of an Iron Cross Panzer Commander from Barbarossa to Normandy"

It's pretty interesting, I find a lot of the time memoirs are either propaganda, stories about how frickin' epic the author was or something actually interesting. This book is the latter.
It's a very granular look at the life of panzer crews throughout the second world war, it covering from the beginning to the end of the war lets you compare how tanks were being used on different fronts at different times. Currently I'm at a section where the author and his crew are trying to get a Tiger with engine issues across Siberia as wolves and shit howl outside, very comfy listening.

The book thankfully stays away from anything political and focuses almost exclusively on the ins and outs of panzer life, lots of talk about the food they ate and the supply situation too.
 
A thread for all things historical - good, bad, or neutral. Just give us the facts, Sir.

First up is an interesting clarification concerning Nazi Germany and their supposed obsession with blonde hair & blue eyes and willingness to harm people if they didn’t have them. Whilst Nazi leadership did indeed promote those desirable traits in their propaganda, the reality is quite different when it comes to how people were treated - most Germans did not have blonde hair.
Zoomer historian... I like him, but him trying to claim that the einsatzgruppen was actually just a wholesome regular ol' militia and wasn't trying to exterminate Eastern Europeans(he didn't do this in the video, just in case people are wondering) is a bit dumb. That's really my only grievance.
 
There IS something wrong with calling it the Byzantine Empire, anyone who starts shit about "oh they called them that as a form of representing the Greeks and to distance themselves from the Holy Roman Empire!" is either a massive Charlemagne fanboy, or a swarthy """Catholic""" living in a free government apartment in Rome.
 
Maybe she shouldn't have spied for japan
Maybe I was wrong (and unaware if Wanrong did spy for Japan. I was aware Yoshiko Kawashima spied, and she was a princess), but I always believed she was reluctant when being relocated to Manchukuo. The way she went out was miserable where she was laying in her own filth, slowly dying, always made me feel pity. It took her lots of convincing to step into Manchukuo and resented a good portion of it.
 
The sealing of the Inner-German border and construction of the Berlin Wall were totally justified.

6/7 of "refugees" to the West were nothing but economic migrants who decided to steal from the GDR by getting free education and other benefits and then defecting. Absolute scum.
Unprecedented amount of brain drain between 1945 - 1961 when freedom of movement was still permitted. I don't know what other solution they could have devised at the time. The economic recovery was always going to be hampered by the Soviet seizure and dismantling of the heavy industry and infrastructure in the East.
 
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The Fourth Crusade is one of the biggest, if not the biggest tragedy in the history of mankind, because it was the moment where Islam was slowly but surely starting to get his feet in Europe and ensuring that the Turks would stay forever in the Anatolian region, and that alone is my sole argument on why the Great Schism will never, and shouldn't ever be restored if it doesn't mean that the Orthodox Christians should be the ones who will represent all of Europe.
 
There are some things I wish I could have from my great grandfather, as he had pictures of his travels and wrote a lot about his time in WW1 and pre-WW1 Europe. My great uncle will never let me have it until he dies because it's "disrespectful" if I read those contents within his diaries. Especially since he really became traumatized from the great war, and apparently just.. "shut off" :(

I wish I knew more about Franz Ferdinand, and what Austria-Hungary would look like underneath his rule. I assume it would have declined more. I lean towards world war one would have happened no matter what.
 
Why do all history threads on the internet inevitably turn to Nazi posts? Don't even get me started on the pro communism posts on sites like Tumblr or Reddit.
Most European and American countries have made the study, observation of WW2 quasi-religious, and made their societies revolve around it. That's why you're largely doomed to re-live it until the end of time.
Made In Lovely Kin said:
I feel nothing but pity for some monarchs like the Romanovs
The funniest thing about the Romanovs is the White Movement did not support them or the restoration of the monarchy at all. So, the arguments communists use to justify their execution make little sense. Its even more dubious when you realize the Chinese didn't even do it. Hell, even House Romanov still exists today and they returned to Russia after the fall of the USSR. Many Romanovs did not die simply because they fled the country before the revolution even happened. Communists are largely communists because they have a really poor grasp at history and reality in general.
Agamemnon Busmalis said:
6/7 of "refugees" to the West were nothing but economic migrants who decided to steal from the GDR by getting free education and other benefits and then defecting. Absolute scum.
Considering that West Germany had "free healthcare", and didn't have to shoot striking workers to maintain it as East Germany did... that seems like a moot point. Especially when their healthcare system was of better quality by all metrics.
 
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