Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

When will the Judge issue a ruling regarding the Motion to Dismiss?

  • This Month

    Votes: 66 13.9%
  • Next Month

    Votes: 56 11.8%
  • This Year

    Votes: 74 15.5%
  • Next Year

    Votes: 164 34.5%
  • Whenever he issues an update to the sanctions

    Votes: 116 24.4%

  • Total voters
    476
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Interesting that Russ's dad is in charge of his finances, indicating Russ is under a conservatorship or something similar.

In which case, Russ suddenly coughing up the court fees and sanction is merely because Hardin told on him to his dad who's making him pay his ordered fees and fines.

I just hope Russell's Parkinson's ridden father is only approving the use of Russell's money, and isn't spending his own to save Russell
 
Rusty has a long history of taking societal courtesy and boilerplate platitudes as endorsements of his harebrained schemes.
It's extremely Russbrained to change the final word of a well-known phrase to something that means the complete opposite and base his entire ethos around it.
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If he can just get his foot in the door to try and explain, then he's already won.

No wonder Ruth fucking despises him. Annoying little pissant.
 
Greer is of those lolcows who dispenses fresh milk in bursts. Takes him awhile to save up a new spurt, but it's always worth the wait.
:story:
I came onto the Greer-train late in the game. I had a passing familiarity with RG before coming to The Farms, and when my need for more lolcows came up, I started following this shit-show. Early on, someone said that RG will go for periods where "nothing happens" but if one waits, the milk is always worth lull periods. The first time I saw this, I was like "Damn, that guy was right". Now I know that with a little time, RG will do something that makes you question whether or not he is a real person or if he really is "like that". He really IS "like that". Sit back and enjoy the ride ;)
 
Interesting that Russ's dad is in charge of his finances, indicating Russ is under a conservatorship or something similar.

Hardin was being cute there. It’s a reference to an email Greer sent on December 31 (ECF 211 attachment 3) in which he told Hardin that any checks (that stupid $225.25) could be mailed to him at the Wyoming address where his father lives, because he didn’t want to give Hardin a real address for himself. Greer’s dad is not in charge of anything, though I suppose it’s possible he bailed his loser son out on the filing fee and/or the sanction.
 
All you bitches making a big deal about 20 pages today... I've been out of town and away from the Farms since Friday. This was one hell of a catch-up session!

It is my hope that with everything going on, the walls will have finally closed in tight enough that Russ can't squeak out of this one. The case gets tossed and then the real fun part gets to take center stage: monetary sanctions. We'll add another five years of litigation to the case as Hardin moves for sanctions, Russ plight-spergs all over the docket, and the judges fall back into tard-guarding for a moment before they remember who they're dealing with. The bad behavior will continue, the sanction snowball grows larger, and Russ will only see one final way out...

But he won't be able to take it. He'll be about to pour the pills into his ever-gaping maw when a hand will smack the bottle away from him. Looking up from within the rotund shadow, Russell Greer will see none other than Jesus Christine Weston Chandler Sonichu Prime, there to give him a new lease on life away from all those dang dirty trolls. Sadly, Chris won't be able to understand a thing that Russ says, but he knows what's best for the poor pipsqueak and takes his slurping as consent to move in together and finally complete both their love quests.

...All the while Rusty's wages get garnished for all eternity.
 
Judge better be cursing the day he decided to tardguard shitlips.
I will say it again. The 10th circuit did Russel no favors resurrecting this case. It was very clear from the oral arguments and their ruling they did it because they wanted Kiwifarms to lose rather then Russel win. But all bringing the case back to life did was allow Russel to dig his hole into the center of earth. He thought he had WON rather move the case from a more preliminary "is this bitch for real?" stage to the "This Bitch better be packing heat" stage.

The consequences for the former is everyone laughs at you if you lose. The consequences for the latter is your life is ruined if you lose. Greer is the worst kind of Dunning Kreuger. He is just smart enough to understand that there are systems and procedures that will make important people have to listen too you. Be it filing a barely legible complaint in Federal Court, or make an application to a city council meeting in bum fuck Nevada.

The problem for Greer is that this is all he assumes is required. Once he has made the people have to listen to him, be it Taylor Swift, the Federal Court or the City Council, then he wins. Because in his head he is already right and once he is allowed to explain how right he is everyone will clap.

It does not occur to him he could be wrong, or that the people made to listen to him, be they the court or the city council will punish him for wasting their time.
 
He was probably exhausted. He had to drive a long way and juggle between an extensive, 5+ year court case zoom call and a city council meeting to set up a brothel in a few weeks.

I wonder if this is the first time they were able to put a name to the face, or even interact with him beyond email. Imagine dealing with this guy over email over months, if not years, and then seeing him in person. Hopefully they didn't spoil the surprise by googling him or anything though because there's no way you could replicate that initial shock. Every lightbulb in the room would go off immediately with "THIS FUCKING RETARD. It all makes sense now." I know I'd be soyfacing in the background the entire time and saying "I knew it!!!".
Imagine the smell. We should have a poll on how many bottles of Febreze they had to use on that chair, with the comedy option being "0-they had to burn it". Rusty definitely looks like the kind of guy who leaves behind an odor that lingers for hours and requires ventilation as well as spray to remove it. Spray alone just makes it smell like someone sweated all over a bouquet of garden-fresh flowers.
Hopefully Mineral and Lander counties will look up Crusty Rusty on the internet before giving any credence to his proposals for brothels and whores once he approaches them (if he hasn't already), given his penchant for bald face lies, lying by omission, fraud, and perjury.

I wonder if it would actually be worth contacting those counties for a public records request regarding anything Rusty has sent them recently? It's entirely possible we may find that Crusty has been fighting the good fight for whores and brothels on more than one front, and these are the only two counties left where he even has a snowball's chance in hell (at least for now).
Unfortunately the counties are required by law to humor the little goblin and treat him with the same respect they'd give every other citizen, regardless of the insanity of his proposals, as long as he's polite, non-violent, and non-threatening.

I would wager that every county in Nevada that has legal prostitution in the books has at least gotten some sort of inquiry from Russ. Who knows what crusty bottles of milk might be hiding in some rural government office in Nevada.
 
Looks like the same suit he always wears
Surely not, since a few months ago he had a hearing in one of his hooker cases rescheduled due to the emergency of his suit being stolen.
You have triggered my autism, and now I must sartorially sperg.

He's not wearing a suit, he's just wearing the jacket. This is a common mistake. A sport coat, blazer or suit jacket worn by itself is commonly mistaken for suit, because that kind of jacket does have a distinctive shape compared to more common casual clothing.

An actual suit refers specifically to a matching jacket and pair of slacks/trousers, made from the same material, and cut to be worn together. If it isn't a matching set of slacks and a jacket, it's not a suit.

What Russ is doing here would more properly be called "odd jacket", called such because the jacket does not match the pants. Done well, odd jacket can be a great way to dress with some style without going all the way to the formality of a 2 piece or 3 piece business suit. It should surprise nobody here that Russ is not doing it well.

His choice of colors actually isn't bad at all. A light grey jacket, black slacks, and a medium blue shirt all work well together. I would wear that combination. Where he fails, and fails horribly, is just how badly that jacket fits him. Look at the shoulders and the sleeves of the jacket. Look at the creasing in the shoulders and the wrinkling in the sleeves. A properly fit jacket will hug your shoulders and armpits just right so it doesn't crinkle that horribly, while at the same time not restricting your movement very much. In fact, getting the shoulders of a jacket to match your actual body proportions is the most critical portion of getting one to fit properly.

With as badly as that jacket fits him, it simultaneously makes him look fat, while also looking too big for him. I would rather deal with a man who wore a properly fitting jacket who's color clashed with his other garments. A weirdly-colored jacket can work with other weirdly colored clothes with a bit of effort. Badly fit clothes will always look bad on a person, no matter how well the colors match or work together.

Whether that's the same suit jacket he's always had (proving that once again he's a lying liar who lied -- this time about his suit being stolen), or a new one, the result is the same. It fits him so badly that he looks like a poor, stupid clown LARPing as a fancy businessman

Which is exactly what Russ is: a clown LARPing as a businessman.
 
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Here you go, @Null, based off @A Pleasant Disposition's enhanced audio. Note there's an artifact around 1:20 where the number of windows on the Zoom screen changed.

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If anyone wants to clean the video up with some AI upscaling or what not, please do.
Subtitled with Whisper for ease of understanding (could make mistakes, especially in names).


[00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:17.840] The request to expand the Adult Entertainment Zoning District will include the Scott Shady Court Motel property located at 400 West 1st Street, ATM number 15-0132-118.
[00:00:17.840 --> 00:00:35.140] I just want to say that property actually fell through, so I'm no longer proposing that property.
[00:00:35.140 --> 00:00:41.480] I am working with a real estate here, and unfortunately he never showed up.
[00:00:41.480 --> 00:00:58.040] So, we have been trying to get a hold of Lance and Donald Killen, they own the Adult Entertainment Zone, and we've been unsuccessful so far.
[00:00:58.040 --> 00:01:11.320] However, since it's just sitting there, we were proposing to expand the zone, there's a building right next to it, it's on 2nd Street, across the area.
[00:01:11.320 --> 00:01:18.120] And I don't want to propose it just yet, just because we're still trying to work it out.
[00:01:18.120 --> 00:01:22.920] But, I just wanted to come and ask the question.
[00:01:22.920 --> 00:01:32.760] We are trying to buy at least one parcel from the buildings, but if the buildings don't want to sell,
[00:01:32.760 --> 00:01:43.560] is the City Council open to potentially expanding the zone to go out or, you know, for more competition?
[00:01:43.560 --> 00:01:44.360] Okay.
[00:01:44.360 --> 00:01:48.360] You got your agenda out in this, pretty narrow, so it's…
[00:01:48.360 --> 00:01:56.360] Our agenda is speaking specifically here, but about expanding the zone, I don't think the Council has an appetite for that.
[00:01:56.360 --> 00:01:59.160] I mean, we do have a zoned area.
[00:01:59.160 --> 00:02:11.160] Granted, there are no current operating brothels there, but I think if we were to go to expand it, you know, the property owner would have to make that request to rezone and things like that.
[00:02:11.160 --> 00:02:13.960] So, I think, you know…
[00:02:13.960 --> 00:02:25.960] I don't think bringing this issue in front of the public and the City Council level is probably a good thing.
[00:02:25.960 --> 00:02:32.760] we've been doing for several years, you know, I think some of the attitude in our city is we're fine like we are.
[00:02:32.760 --> 00:02:36.760] So, you know, that's just my opinion.
[00:02:36.760 --> 00:02:40.760] So, what if they do sell one parcel to us?
[00:02:40.760 --> 00:02:43.760] Are you open to that area of reopening?
[00:02:43.760 --> 00:02:45.760] It's already zoned, is that?
[00:02:45.760 --> 00:02:47.760] Or do you no longer want it?
[00:02:47.760 --> 00:02:49.760] No, it's zoned for that.
[00:02:49.760 --> 00:02:53.760] That would be a business proposition that has nothing to do with the City.
[00:02:53.760 --> 00:02:54.760] Okay.
[00:02:54.760 --> 00:02:57.760] As long as you comply with whatever requirements are in place.
[00:02:57.760 --> 00:02:58.760] It's not a…
[00:02:58.760 --> 00:02:59.760] It's not a…
[00:02:59.760 --> 00:03:00.760] We like it or dislike it.
[00:03:00.760 --> 00:03:04.760] It's whether or not it's allowed for the current laws.
[00:03:04.760 --> 00:03:05.760] That's all it is.
[00:03:05.760 --> 00:03:06.760] Okay.
[00:03:06.760 --> 00:03:07.760] That's a private business decision.
[00:03:07.760 --> 00:03:09.760] That's not a governmental decision.
[00:03:09.760 --> 00:03:10.760] Right.
[00:03:10.760 --> 00:03:11.760] Oh, yeah.
[00:03:11.760 --> 00:03:16.760] I think we have a zoned district and we're not looking to expand.
[00:03:16.760 --> 00:03:17.760] I don't…
[00:03:17.760 --> 00:03:18.760] That's my opinion.
[00:03:18.760 --> 00:03:20.760] My opinion is the same thing.
[00:03:20.760 --> 00:03:21.760] It's there.
[00:03:21.760 --> 00:03:23.760] It's been there.
[00:03:23.760 --> 00:03:26.760] But expanding it, I'm not going to resist.
[00:03:26.760 --> 00:03:27.760] All right.
[00:03:27.760 --> 00:03:31.760] I just thought one of their phone numbers…
[00:03:31.760 --> 00:03:35.760] So I'm going to try to follow them today so if they'll tell.
[00:03:35.760 --> 00:03:40.760] But I really appreciate your time and allowing me to come in front of you.
[00:03:40.760 --> 00:03:41.760] Thank you.
[00:03:41.760 --> 00:03:42.760] Appreciate you coming.
[00:03:42.760 --> 00:03:43.760] Thank you.
[00:03:43.760 --> 00:03:44.760] Thank you.
[00:03:44.760 --> 00:03:46.760] Any other questions?
[00:03:46.760 --> 00:03:50.760] Yeah, we will open up to public comment again.
[00:03:50.760 --> 00:03:51.760] You have any…
[00:03:51.760 --> 00:03:55.760] I want to say more questions and comments.
[00:03:55.760 --> 00:03:56.760] My name is Roger Bailock.
[00:03:56.760 --> 00:03:59.760] I am the owner of Scott Shady Court Motel.
[00:03:59.760 --> 00:04:07.760] I'm new to Winnemucca, but I've dealt with a lot of other governments.
[00:04:07.760 --> 00:04:22.760] And I find it kind of strange that my property can get on the city agenda without me being notified or…
[00:04:22.760 --> 00:04:25.760] Or ask for consent or something.
[00:04:25.760 --> 00:04:28.760] And I'm wondering just how that happened.
[00:04:28.760 --> 00:04:41.760] It happened because that gentleman that was here made a request to see if the city council had any appetite to move the adult entertainment zoning district further that way.
[00:04:41.760 --> 00:04:42.760] That property specifically.
[00:04:42.760 --> 00:04:46.760] So it doesn't have to have your consent for…
[00:04:46.760 --> 00:04:49.760] For them to have somebody make a request about it.
[00:04:49.760 --> 00:04:51.760] I mean, you know, anybody…
[00:04:51.760 --> 00:04:53.760] Sure, anybody can make a request about any property.
[00:04:53.760 --> 00:04:54.760] I mean, but…
[00:04:54.760 --> 00:04:55.760] But I mean, the city…
[00:04:55.760 --> 00:05:03.760] Obviously, a request of that nature would have to come from the owner in order to effectuate the ultimate zone change.
[00:05:03.760 --> 00:05:08.760] So he just wanted to know if there was, you know, an appetite for it.
[00:05:08.760 --> 00:05:09.760] It's what he wanted to know.
[00:05:09.760 --> 00:05:12.760] And I talked to you and I told…
[00:05:12.760 --> 00:05:13.760] Yeah, wait till we talk.
[00:05:13.760 --> 00:05:20.760] There's probably no appetite, but, you know, he acting on his own said, "Oh, I want to know."
[00:05:20.760 --> 00:05:21.760] And so…
[00:05:21.760 --> 00:05:22.760] So that…
[00:05:22.760 --> 00:05:23.760] And then…
[00:05:23.760 --> 00:05:34.760] After we talked, I informed him that there was no appetite and that, you know, basically, I thought there was zero chance that this would happen in Winnemucca.
[00:05:34.760 --> 00:05:35.760] Yeah.
[00:05:35.760 --> 00:05:35.760] And that was…
[00:05:35.760 --> 00:05:36.760] And that was…
[00:05:36.760 --> 00:05:47.760] I sent him that email March 26th and I thought it was a dead issue and then all of a sudden, Thursday night, I'm getting calls that I'm on the agenda.
[00:05:47.760 --> 00:05:48.760] And so did I.
[00:05:48.760 --> 00:05:56.760] And my understanding was that he had some kind of an ownership, you know, possibility of something like that. That's what I understood.
[00:05:56.760 --> 00:05:57.760] Oh, yeah.
[00:05:57.760 --> 00:05:59.760] He was a little less than clear, I guess.
[00:05:59.760 --> 00:06:02.760] Well, for the record, I've never met the guy.
[00:06:02.760 --> 00:06:05.760] I've exchanged two emails with him.
[00:06:05.760 --> 00:06:07.760] And one of years met him either, so…
[00:06:07.760 --> 00:06:14.760] He has been notifying myself and the city manager for years.
[00:06:14.760 --> 00:06:15.760] He's been very persistent.
[00:06:15.760 --> 00:06:16.760] With this.
[00:06:16.760 --> 00:06:18.760] And it's all been through emails, I believe.
[00:06:18.760 --> 00:06:19.760] I've never talked to him.
[00:06:19.760 --> 00:06:24.760] I did try to call him once and never had any success.
[00:06:24.760 --> 00:06:27.760] Tried to explain that I didn't think it was going to go anywhere.
[00:06:27.760 --> 00:06:30.760] Tried to head it off, but he…
[00:06:30.760 --> 00:06:31.760] Okay.
[00:06:31.760 --> 00:06:38.760] I just found some plans for the area, but so I just kind of curious more how all this happened.
[00:06:38.760 --> 00:06:39.760] So thank you.
[00:06:39.760 --> 00:06:40.760] Thank you.
[00:06:40.760 --> 00:06:41.760] Okay.
[00:06:41.760 --> 00:06:44.760] Any other public comments?
[00:06:44.760 --> 00:06:48.760] Anything online?
[00:06:48.760 --> 00:06:52.760] Not senior.
 
Actual footage of Russell rolling up to the Vegas PD to end Matthew Hardin’s legal career.
This goes even harder when paired with the Stone Cold Steve Austin theme.
"Once you pay all my attorney's fees for your bullshit, yes, I will be."
"Hardin will destroy your lolsuit and then, when it is done, and your brothels lie in ashes, then you have my permission to die."
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So we're at 1 confirmed court lie, and 1 probable lie to Hardin trying to cover up the first.

I'm guessing this is why Russell paid the filing fees so quickly yesterday. He's figured out that his lies have been exposed, and he's currently shitting himself in case the court throws out the case, or worse, decides they need to do some fee shifting and start making Russell pay null's past court costs.

So he's doing what he always does. Pay the filing fee. "Look, I've paid it. No harm, no foul. Now can we just get back to punishing the ebil null and his stalker website. I'm poor and disabled, also retarded, so I made a mistake. Now can you please lock up Matthew Hardin for me? He's asking questions I don't like."
 
"I've finally paid off the fraudulently deferred court fees that I willingly admitted to having the ability to pay, without argument, are you happy now. Joshua Moon?"

Also telling the opposing counsel to fuck off and then CC'ing the judge into it was comedy gold. :story:
 
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