Docket (FTC-2025-0023) FTC Request for Comment on Censorship and Deplatforming

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Another example for anyone that wants to send their comment: YouTube has intentionally fucked with yt-dlp by threatening to suspend users' accounts if they download too many videos at once; as well as requiring an account's cookies in order to download age restricted videos. It should be a god given right to download their videos at any point, anytime, without fear of termination from them, otherwise we'd all just be using OBS to screengrab people's videos for archiving or responses.
 
: YouTube has intentionally fucked with yt-dlp by threatening to suspend users' accounts if they download too many videos at once; as well as requiring an account's cookies in order to download age restricted videos.
YouTube doesn't have to permit users to download videos at all. Companies normally reserve rights to ban you if you throw up weird traffic patterns or look to be scraping things en masse and the FTC isn't going to consider that censorship.
 
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Another example for anyone that wants to send their comment: YouTube has intentionally fucked with yt-dlp by threatening to suspend users' accounts if they download too many videos at once; as well as requiring an account's cookies in order to download age restricted videos. It should be a god given right to download their videos at any point, anytime, without fear of termination from them, otherwise we'd all just be using OBS to screengrab people's videos for archiving or responses.
There's this one weird trick I use to avoid that. It's called limiting your download speed.
 
ever heard of discord? they literally banned over 1 million people from their platform on the basis of them being conservative. fucking ridiculous
 
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>"Comments must be received no later than May 21, 2025 by 11:59pm ET."
We need to muster our roster of good goys to give more exposure about this event than just here.
-The Quartering
-TurkeyTom
-Razorfist
-KinoCasino
-PippaPipkin
-Viva Frei/Barnes
-Potentially Criminal
-Legal Bytes
-DSP Gaming
-Rekieta Law
I can sprinkle ~$80-$120 worth of superchats throughout the week and have them inform their viewers about it. Hopefully more eyes will participate from this.

I'm also a tad retarded about the history of KF. Researching for the report is going to take a while.
Gubment thralls also really love reading clear reports with the 5 Ws, makes their own work 10X easier.

This forum also really needs a dedicated 'Our History' page. I think Keffals, Wikipedia, and the Washington Post are, maybe, perhaps, in retrospective, a bit bias.
I'm more knowledgeable about 4chan and YouTube, being actively negatively affected by both myself; but I'm still foreign about the tapestry of affairs about KF.

I'm trying my best here. I can only type 15 wpm. It's just so much is happening right now.


Politicians also adhere to guidance from principled organizations like the EFF (Electronic Frontier Foundation). They even defended KF and denounced Hurricane Electric for deplatforming. At least that's what they say.
Did this work out?
 
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Did this work out?
Not yet, I actually wanted to wait until Null had a statement posted ITT that I can run with for signatures.
I tried to have a pasteable drafted up on behalf of KF myself and, good grief, this website is irredeemable.

Understandably, it's really hard to mount something here especially when you have griefers like-
FTC griefer.webp
The deadline is next Wednesday and I'll still be joining the anti-Google incursion, but without KF representation.
 
Not yet, I actually wanted to wait until Null had a statement posted ITT that I can run with for signatures.
I tried to have a pasteable drafted up on behalf of KF myself and, good grief, this website is irredeemable.

Understandably, it's really hard to mount something here especially when you have griefers like-
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The deadline is next Wednesday and I'll still be joining the anti-Google incursion, but without KF representation.
It brings me to wonder is there a good way to spin the FTC questions to be in favor of kiwifarms or would this only benifit platforms that actively work to censor their users.
 
i dont know if that would be in good faith considering i am canadian
Most of these platforms censor stuff internationally anyways, so if they subject the rest of the world to their whims then it stands to reason that the rest of the world can complain to the FTC about them, since they're the ones that will reign them in.
 
Most of these platforms censor stuff internationally anyways, so if they subject the rest of the world to their whims then it stands to reason that the rest of the world can complain to the FTC about them, since they're the ones that will reign them in.
the FTC will know they have messed with canada 😡😡😡😡 they better stop fucking around or they might piss of belgium next
 
Not enough "niggers" and that's an autismo signature Jersh, but looks pretty good to me chief
 
Let me know if there's anything I should change
Looks really good.

I would maybe include a historical example or two of significant DDoS attacks and the harm they caused around page 3. First one that comes to mind was the Dyn outage a few years back. Even just a few sentences that reference severe cases like this will do. These attacks cause huge amounts of damage and financial losses, and I think it's important to keep those themes fresh in the reader's mind.
 
Submitting this today. Let me know if there's anything I should change. I tried to be as concise as possible.


Editing this live; please make sure that you are checking this version for the current draft if you intend to submit feedback. The PDF/JPG copy is for people who do not want to use Gdocs.

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Internet Backbone Companies
Tier 1 ISPs are enormous companies that are traditionally defined as having connections to all other Tier 1 ISPs . Any two computers connected anywhere in the world will almost certainly need to utilize a Tier 1 ISP to communicate. If Tier 1 ISPs start to block connections to or from specific computers, that computer will find itself disconnected from significant swathes of the worldwide Internet.

I have experienced Tier 1 ISP censorship first hand. Until 2022, it was unheard of for these ISPs to censor specific companies, , as their businesses enjoy very little public scrutiny and as they have traditionally understood their role as important and neutral services. This era ended with when Cogent, a Tier 1 ISP based out of the District of Columbia, under CEO Dave Schaeffer, censored my business by disconnecting me from their backbone infrastructure. Cogent has enjoyed significant income from the US Federal Government, both in contracts for providing Internet access to government agencies, and in grants for the deployment of new Internet infrastructure. Tier 1 ISPs like Cogent enjoy very little public scrutiny, which has allowed them to increasingly engage in such censorship unchecked.

Back in the telephone era of the 1980s, the idea that AT&T (Ma Bell), would be have been allowed to disconnect the phone lines of their domestic political enemies and refuse them telephone service was unthinkable. But this is exactly what is happening today. And just like in 1982 when the DOJ declared AT&T a monopoly and broke them up, Federal government intervention is again required to protect the public commons of the Internet from powerful monopolistic companies like Cogent (and other Tier 1 ISPs) that are engaging in censorship.

Cogent has deliberately and maliciously interfered with my online businesses in relationships across the world. They would ‘blackhole’ connections to my network resources. Blackholing is a practice by which Cogent maliciously informed third-party networks that my own network is unreachable, which would cause the connecting client to abort their connection attempt.

This is more aggressive than simply refusing to connect to my networks directly. It is one thing for Cogent to refuse to directly connect to another network. By blackholing connections,
they Cogent lied about the availability of an address; a deliberate and malicious effort to disconnect my service from much of the Internet. This sort of censorship is generally reserved for national security, such as to stop the spread of a computer virus. It is the digital equivalent of Google Maps saying that someone’s store is not at a real address and cannot be found, despite having actual knowledge of where it is and that the store is open for business.

In extreme situations, Cogent would even electronically announce the network infrastructure of other companies to induce them to modify their routing for specific IP addresses that my services ran on on which my services ran as a means to censor us. I believe these actions were in violation of the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act (18 U.S.C. § 1030), as they effectively seized and modified computer resources without authorization as a means to disable a US-legal website. This happened in the US, but also in Poland, showing that Cogent was dedicated to the world-wide blockade of my community. Also in Poland, Cogent pressured a very large data center owned by Equinix in Warsaw to evict my server, which they did.

Although these are their two most memorable instances of censorship, Cogent will–to this day–continuously block any instance of my website that they can, and I must painstakingly go out of my way to avoid them their electronic censorship. Any time I look for more companies to do business with, I must first determine if they have a relationship with Cogent, and I cannot do business with any business that itself relies on Cogent. Whenever I look for more companies to do business with, I must first determine if they have a relationship with Cogent, and I cannot engage with any company that relies on Cogent. But I have never been a direct customer of Cogent. All of their censorship actions have been directed against me and my businesses through their own Cogent itself, Cogent's customers, or the customers of their customers, or so on.

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Was it intentional to mention the Fair Access to Financial Services without any elaboration, almost in passing? I'm afraid they would look at that and consider it an afterthought, instead of understanding how financial censorship is a massive part of deplatforming.
 
Was it intentional to mention the Fair Access to Financial Services without any elaboration, almost in passing? I'm afraid they would look at that and consider it an afterthought, instead of understanding how financial censorship is a massive part of deplatforming.
The FTC has no control over the OCC. I just can't not mention it.
 
Did the attached letter not get attached or get removed in review? The comment with tracking number may-m1xs-6dlh looks like yours but doesn't have any attachments.
 
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