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[Tor Lugosi]

I can't remember, was it Gwen Stacy or Mary Jane that got cervical cancer from Spiderman's radioactive nut and died in one comic arc?

MJ. It was in Spider-Man: Reigns, an alternate future mini-series. I've never read it, though I've never heard anyone really sing its praises, so I'm guessing it was, at best, forgettable.

 

[PhoBingas]

MJ. It was in Spider-Man: Reigns, an alternate future mini-series. I've never read it, though I've never heard anyone really sing its praises, so I'm guessing it was, at best, forgettable.

So forgettable I couldn't recall the name of the series or if it was MJ or Gwen.

 

[Clyde Cash's Left Teste]

So forgettable I couldn't recall the name of the series or if it was MJ or Gwen.

They did a sequel last year where it's revealed that Gwen and Miles had a kid

 

[PhoBingas]

They did a sequel last year where it's revealed that Gwen and Miles had a kid

Rough. Mudshark Gwen

 

[Tor Lugosi]

The Gwen and Miles relationship in the comics is truly fucking retarded. It came into existence solely to pander to Tumblr fags who became obsessed with making art of the pairing, despite the fact that the two characters had barely spoken ten words to each other. Which isn't even getting into the weird age / maturity gap between the two characters.

 

[Newcomer 42]

I bet it's because part of The Message: You know, making blondes and/or gingers girls paired to blacks guys, and ALWAYS like that, never the other way around.

 

[ChampFantana]

My current comic reading is the Harry Dresden comics.

Even the ones that aren't directly adapted from the novels are really good stories with excellent art.

I heartily recommend them.

 

[The Feline Solution 2]

I read "Ruins" by Warren Ellis yesterday and the artwork blew me away, one of the very few books i've been contemplating of actually buying just because of its stellar design, i feel scans just don't do it justice. Wished it was longer than just two issues.

Spoiler: Huge Ruins pics

Loved this exchange and the conclusion, goddamn!

Arkham Asylum is him at his peak

As with Ruins, super late to the party as well but i read that one yesterday, too, and thought it was amazing, both the artwork and the writing. Also same as for Ruins, i am contemplating to buy it. Was Morrison the first guy to put the "Batman is just another one of the loonies" idea forward? I seldom read cape stuff and know next to nothing about it.

 

[Prehistoric Jazz]

I liked most of Warren Ellis' work. I know he's a libtard but he made a lot of great shit. About the only thing I found disappointing from him was his Xmen stuff, I'm sure there's more if I really looked for it.

Nobody likes a sexpest but the quality of his stuff made me buy his work. With regard to his groupies, if you're a lady that thought he could get you writing work and were willing to trade sexual favors for a career boost, I have little sympathy for you. At that point you're just being what incels declare most women to be, and you should feel shame.

 

[Old King Koaleamos]

I liked most of Warren Ellis' work. I know he's a libtard but he made a lot of great shit. About the only thing I found disappointing from him was his Xmen stuff, I'm sure there's more if I really looked for it.

Nobody likes a sexpest but the quality of his stuff made me buy his work. With regard to his groupies, if you're a lady that thought he could get you writing work and were willing to trade sexual favors for a career boost, I have little sympathy for you. At that point you're just being what incels declare most women to be, and you should feel shame.

Yeah, the Castlevania netflix show he was the lead writer of was decent slop, but then he left and they got an even worse writer that can't execute jack shit.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

As with Ruins, super late to the party as well but i read that one yesterday, too, and thought it was amazing, both the artwork and the writing. Also same as for Ruins, i am contemplating to buy it. Was Morrison the first guy to put the "Batman is just another one of the loonies" idea forward? I seldom read cape stuff and know next to nothing about it.

The eighties was when things got darker for Batman and the idea had been floated around before, but A Serious House on a Serious Earth was I think the one that made it a plot point.

I'm also a fan of it, I do love painted graphic novels and Dave McKean's work is great. I remember liking the Black Orchid mini series he did with Neil Gaiman, though I don't remember much about it. I think Batman had a cameo in that too but I may be misremembering.

 

[Liquid Kent]

Was Morrison the first guy to put the "Batman is just another one of the loonies" idea forward? I seldom read cape stuff and know next to nothing about it.

I think Tim Burton kept saying on set during filming that "Batman is a loon/nutjob".

Morrison had Dave McKean who rendered the work with such impact- McKean had this visually distinct and psychologically violent look to not just Batman, but the whole book itself that made Arkham Asylum distinct.

Morrison brought subject matter which simply implied is disturbing, from the alternative interpretations of the Rogues Gallery (Harvey Dent's decision-making process utterly destroyed in an attempt to introduce varied choice rather than duality, Crossdressing/Transsexual Joker, Mad Hatter a Pedophile, etc.) to Amadeus Arkham's family and his final fate tied to the themes of madness/sanity and the symbolism of the Bat.

Arkham Asylum still stands as one of the best books you can hand to a non-reader and make them a True Believer (C) (R) (TM) and then some.

 

[The Feline Solution 2]

Harvey Dent's decision-making process utterly destroyed in an attempt to introduce varied choice rather than duality

That was my favourite part in the book and the Mad Hatter stuff ("These little blonde girls... these shameless whores") also came out of left field and hit hard. The epilogue was also fantastic with all the villain quotes, Dent's shines there again. The word association game the one psychiatrist played with Batman was also phenomal. Fantastic Batman comic which i easily rank as high as Year One and The Dark Knight.

 

[skykiii]

@LORD IMPERATOR thoughts on this?

 

[Clyde Cash's Left Teste]

RIP Peter David

 

[Humble Architect]

Peter David passed, we all knew it was coming but it’s still sad

His awesome Hulk run is the reason Grey Hulk/Joe became my favorite Marvel character and one of my all-time favourite characters in fiction, taking “Mafia Hulk” and making it everything but silly is still one of his most impressive feats as a writer.

Peter David is a case of a fantastic creator never truly being appreciated for his work in building the mythos and the sheer volume his body of work boasted.

He was the writer that doesn’t get the celebrity status, one who can lock down and do a 60+ issue run and still have more in the tank, not one of those upstarts who get their ten issue masturbatory aid endlessly adapted.

The industry needs more like Peter David.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

@LORD IMPERATOR thoughts on this?

I have no strong opinions for or against. It can work either way; although it'd make more sense if the Waynes were a bit of both. Many rich people fund philanthropic causes, but they also get involved with shady shit like the mob. It's just the way things were back then, and even now. Having the Waynes be the last good rich people make no sense since Gotham's wickedness usually stems from the lower places; Penguin (Oswald Cobblepot) is one of the few instances of rich people being dicks in Gotham. Sure, maybe half the rich pricks in Gotham are dicks, but making it so that it's close to "all" just bestows a Chosen One narrative on Bruce Wayne, which makes no sense when he's just some guy with wealth and martial arts skills who lost his parents, not the fucking Chosen One of Gotham City.

Even the Court of Owls want to clean up Gotham's filth; it's just that they're more extremist than Batman was. But they share the same goal of a cleaner, better Gotham, so making them corrupt makes no sense, when it's their zeal that is the problem, not their goals.

 

[Clyde Cash's Left Teste]

Peter David passed, we all knew it was coming but it’s still sad
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His awesome Hulk run is the reason Grey Hulk/Joe became my favorite Marvel character and one of my all-time favourite characters in fiction, taking “Mafia Hulk” and making it everything but silly is still one of his most impressive feats as a writer.

Peter David is a case of a fantastic creator never truly being appreciated for his work in building the mythos and the sheer volume his body of work boasted.

He was the writer that doesn’t get the celebrity status, for one who can lock down and do a 60+ issue run and still have more in the tank, not one of those upstarts who get their ten issue masturbatory aid endlessly adapted.

The industry needs more like Peter David.
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It should have been Dan Slott

 

[Eventide]

Peter David passed, we all knew it was coming but it’s still sad
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His awesome Hulk run is the reason Grey Hulk/Joe became my favorite Marvel character and one of my all-time favourite characters in fiction, taking “Mafia Hulk” and making it everything but silly is still one of his most impressive feats as a writer.

Peter David is a case of a fantastic creator never truly being appreciated for his work in building the mythos and the sheer volume his body of work boasted.

He was the writer that doesn’t get the celebrity status, for one who can lock down and do a 60+ issue run and still have more in the tank, not one of those upstarts who get their ten issue masturbatory aid endlessly adapted.

The industry needs more like Peter David.
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I'm too young to have read any of Peter David's comics in their heyday, but I scored a box of his Supergirl & Young Justice runs from the 90's at an estate sale some time ago and I really enjoyed them. I remember his Supergirl comics were very Buffy-esque/you could tell Joss Whedon ripped off was inspired by Peter David heavily. His Supergirl run was especially notable 'cause it was the weird Pre-Infinite/Final (???) Crisis Supergirl that was made of magic goo (?) from another dimension with the memories of Silver Age Kara (and married to Lex Luthor for some reason) and he still managed to sort out her character and gave her compelling plotlines. Like, that is no easy feat (90's DC Continuity sure was, uh...something...)

 

[sarna]

I was a big fan of his X-Factor stories in the middle '90s. Great character-driven comedy, some real fun low-key satire. Like most everything that managed to be good for a little while in the X-Men franchise in those days, the editorial team ran him off the book and killed it, but it was fun while it lasted.

Peter David is a case of a fantastic creator never truly being appreciated for his work in building the mythos and the sheer volume his body of work boasted.

It's a good point, and a sad one. He had a forty-year career give or take, and he never broke through to superstar status or had a real crossover hit. He just steadily cranked out good comics. Meanwhile, Mark Millar is set for life. Justice, there ain't none.