Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[Useful_Mistake]

ECF 317

Where are all the supergeniuses in this thread to point out that "an issue not raised is waived on appeal"? Y'all are slipping.

I genuinely don't understand why you took it so personally.

 

[DHugo]

I'm excited to see what Greer's response to this will be. He probably thought it was some clever line, nothing important. I can hear a distant "REEEEEEEEE" already.
New poll on whether the court will punish Greer for the IFP misrepresentation, or will they let his fuckery slide again?

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Am I missing something or is Mr. Hardin conflating annual income with monthly income?

 

[LiquidChrisRespecter]

Nice try, Mr Hardin. IFP fraud has nothing to do with copyright.

 

[Blackstar]

what was Greer doing around September 2020?
hiring a pr company View attachment 7398505
moving to las vegas
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ordering expensive things off ebay
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looking to hire a male pop vocalist
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all the actions of someone too poor to pay his court filing costs.

eta: also hiring someone to paint a white lives matter mural
Post in thread 'Russell Greer / @ just_some_dude_named_russell29 / A Safer Nevada PAC'
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/russe...ssell29-a-safer-nevada-pac.30488/post-7103712

OH SHIT! Hardin brings this up in the new filing

"Additionally, since the Motion at ECF No. 313 was filed, social media postsof Mr. Greer in the months surrounding Plaintiff’s 2020 application for in forma pauperisstatus have surfaced. While not yest authenticated or presented in an admissible form,initial indications are that Mr. Greer had sufficient funds to hire a “PR company” inNovember 2020 to promote a song about “body positivity,” and sufficient funds inDecember 2020 to pay a “male pop vocalist $500-800 to help me with an audition."

 

[El Goblina]

Am I missing something or is Mr. Hardin conflating annual income with monthly income?

I don't see this. The one time where "monthly" comes up, Hardin translates it into "yearly", and uses "yearly" pretty consistently elsewise. Maybe a quote would illuminate what you mean better?

 

[ShinyStar]

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I'm excited to see what Greer's response to this will be. He probably thought it was some clever line, nothing important. I can hear a distant "REEEEEEEEE" already.
New poll on whether the court will punish Greer for the IFP misrepresentation, or will they let his fuckery slide again?

Hardin is focusing on words, not whole arguments - Plaintiff said that his expenses were also higher. PR and music have nothing to do with copyright, and Hardin is attempting to interfere with Plaintiff's music career. That was 5 years ago, we've all moved on so Hardin can't litigate that now. The 10th said Plaintiff has already won, so motion to prevent Hardin from presenting a defense.

We could really do a Bingo card for Russ' filings...

 

[obsdj]

Am I missing something or is Mr. Hardin conflating annual income with monthly income?

For some reason, Utah's rules use the word "monthly."


But the federal poverty guidelines are obviously using annual income. Hardin isn't confused, if anything Utah is.

 

[DiabeticSydePhil]

Am I missing something or is Mr. Hardin conflating annual income with monthly income?

While the statute is in monthly income, I do believe its still averaged out on a yearly basis.

Ie: even if Greer's income was ZERO for a month, on average he is still over monthly income on a yearly average. Yearly income/12 should still give you that he was above income per month, however poverty guidelines are always, that I've seen, shown by yearly income, so displaying it this way makes it easier.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

I don't see this. The one time where "monthly" comes up, Hardin translates it into "yearly", and uses "yearly" pretty consistently elsewise. Maybe a quote would illuminate what you mean better?

But the local rule focused on monthly income not yearly income, is my point.

Hardin isn't confused, if anything Utah is.

AH, that's why. Thank you.

 

[a hapless toad]

Am I missing something or is Mr. Hardin conflating annual income with monthly income?

Kind of...perhaps because it's more concise to just cite annual figures?

 

[Hunter Hearst Helmsley]

For the Hardin typo shamers:

But the math appears to be even worse than that, because Mr. Greer assures this Court he was actually earning more in 2020 than he does not, such that Plaintiff’s 2020 income would have been even higher than the current figures

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Kind of...perhaps because it's more concise to just cite annual figures?

Too late. @obsdj already explained it to me.

 

[DSP's Tax Lawyer]

OH SHIT! Hardin brings this up in the new filing

"Additionally, since the Motion at ECF No. 313 was filed, social media postsof Mr. Greer in the months surrounding Plaintiff’s 2020 application for in forma pauperisstatus have surfaced. While not yest authenticated or presented in an admissible form,initial indications are that Mr. Greer had sufficient funds to hire a “PR company” inNovember 2020 to promote a song about “body positivity,” and sufficient funds inDecember 2020 to pay a “male pop vocalist $500-800 to help me with an audition."

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Paying the court fees would have been a better use of that money than whatever Russell spent it on

 

[reactionary]

Paying the court fees would have been a better use of that money than whatever Russell spent it on

There is nothing better in Greer's mind than getting him his penis sucked. Or Olive Garden. Who knows.

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

For some reason, Utah's rules use the word "monthly."
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But the federal poverty guidelines are obviously using annual income. Hardin isn't confused, if anything Utah is.

Neither is "confused." If your annual income is below the threshold, so is your monthly. Why does Utah express the concept as monthly rather than annual? Who knows? Why does anyone pick one or the other? But it makes no difference and it doesn't change the numbers.

 

[Rabid Weasels]

Sorry I'm a few ECFs behind, but who is Betty (mentioned in the emails attached to the emergency motion)? Does he mean Ruth? He just sees her as some NPC secretary gal, doesn't he?

Also, I choose to believe the $5k in the bank is because he has a car now, so he can start charging for handjobs instead of in exchange for rides.

 

[obsdj]

Sorry I'm a few ECFs behind, but who is Betty (mentioned in the emails attached to the emergency motion)?

Betty Lawrence is a Humboldt County employee (as opposed to Ruth who works for the city of Winnemucca). Different jurisdictions.

 

[Probably An Autist]

I was curious what the rules for IFP status were, so I went to the Local Rules for Utah.
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So, the form motion could say he's deserving for IFP for other reasons, but let's look at the 'guaranteed' one based on income.
So what do the poverty guidelines say for 2020.
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$12,760 * 2 = $25,520
If he then made more than the $14/hr he makes now. Let's just use the $14 for 50 weeks a year at 40 hours a week.
$14 * 40 * 50 = $28,000

Luuuuuccccyyyy, looks like you've got some 'splainin to do.

ECF 317
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I genuinely don't understand why you took it so personally.

HMMM. Curious, @DavidS877 Esquire

 

[Ralph Barnhardt]

Sorry I'm a few ECFs behind, but who is Betty

The one who forged Hardin into the Hardship.