The straightforward answer is tha they believe that evaporation erases the water from existence, even when in reality water vapour i still water.
They are also worried about how this reduces the amount of available fresh water that living beings need; there would not be that big a ruckus if AI was cooled with regular seawater.
These are the same people that are concerned with nature, to the point of hampering a nation's growth with the help of traitors in office. Yet shut their trap when questioned about China or India.
Honestly, these people are profound retards and they deserve everything coming to them. Including being irate.
Some people are that retarded, but most of what you linked isn't. They're talking about the water cycle pretty explicitly, and that groundwater, springs and reservoirs all have finite rates of replenishment. California quite famously can't manage its water well enough to put out fires despite their "everything's on fire" season being the same time every year. Adding another drain to that isn't going to improve the situation.
Month later and the banks decided that despite banning 'bad' fetishes that it was just not enough and have now completely suspended any payments. Because truly banks have an outstanding moral compass, usury is fine, fuck the general public drain all of them and leave them all in an unethical cycle of debt and modern day slavery. But sex is wrong and bad. After the 4chan leaks I'm surprised, I thought they would be encouraging gooning here like they did there.
The admins have basically said that the banks wanted to ban basically every single form of nsfw content, not just certain fetishes. The admins basically tried to ban those fetishes as some midground. As we all know, there is no midground for censorship especially with the banks.
I read the comments a bit further.
This guy decided to fucking UMMMMMMMM AKSHUALLY on child porn. Because anime guys really are built different. Comment was in response to some sped saying that the payment processors have a problem with cp on the site and not fetishes, despite the previous ban targeting exclusively fetishes and the admins directly saying it was just about nsfw content as a whole.
No clue why this retard saw 'CP' and his brain went straight to the fucking nazis. I just wonder if this guy applies the same logic in reverse? What about all of the actually well intended things that hitler did? Or does he just think that the nazi party was just the first order from the star wars sequels? Oh yea he also posts pregangarnt simpsons porn. I say from my lovely ivory tower made of glass.
There's this guy that posted a link to his tensorart profile which yes is 90% children and children kissing. I won't say it's child porn, I will just say it's fucking dodgy as shit. I don't know why child porn has become a fucking 2016 culture war bipartisanal issue. It's not child porn but that doesn't mean it isn't fucking dodgy. There's this middle ground called 'I would not want the top guy arrested but I sure as fuck would never leave him unattended around any child'.
There's a lot of people asking for the deleted models to be reinstated. Which is pretty fair. Flirting with censorship is retarded as shit, so really reinstating them would be good. The best part is that they haven't even properly deleted them. I will still randomly see mostly diaper loras pop up in the search results despite being banned.
There's this guy who must be baiting. The site gives you credits if people like your content, comments on announcement posts counting as 'content'.
Here's why he's obviously lying. I don't want to redditfag and go uhhhh I spent an hour crawling through your comment history and found something problematic, but this was visible in literally one scrollwheel of posts however the fuck it's measured. I can see all of these images without having to remove my finger from the scroll wheel.
Yes this does include piss. Something that last month's ban banned.
There's a fair few speds saying to triple down and fully ban all nsfw content. That's what yodayo did and now they don't exist. Someone said it in the comments of that post, ban nsfw stuff and you will either collapse and shut down or you will turn into fucking bing image creator. Grovelling at the feet of the cc monopoly will never work, they don't care about you or your wishes. They care about themselves and nothing else. Unless you're willing to get circumcised and recite the torah word for word at the yearly child penis blood transfusion events then they will never see you as anything other than a target. They only care about dirty money when they can hide how dirty it is. There's a lot of people saying that banning nsfw content will 'fix' the problem and suddenly the site will be ok. The reality of it is that civitai exists because of nsfw content. That's why the site is popular. Simple as. Try it yourself but go on the tab of images posted most recently and count the amount of sfw to nsfw images. If it's even 10% sfw then I will be surpirsed. The second most popular image on the site of all time is porn.
Here's a guy applauding civitai for not bending over, despite them bending over a month ago.
I just found this guy kinda funny. I'm not enough of a gun autist to know what this means nor is it a good comparison probably. If you want to compare this situation to anything then there's a million examples of banks fucking over the general public and demanding internet sites censor their content, from patreon to this very site.
There is a quite frankly disturbing number of people echoing the same fucking bullshit that every government corporate faggot does. 'oh they're just worried about the child porn, they're not trying to censor you they just really care about children'. I will accept the hats. But I genuinely hope that everything these people love and enjoy gets banned. I sincerely hope that your brownnosing of creatures that hardly count as humans comes back to bite you in the ass. These people are so fucking retarded they belong in a fucking zoo alongside the monkeys, I like them as much as I like monkeys too. They're not just useful idiots but they are actively supporting the ruination of the internet and wider society. I live in good old England, I'm here on tor having trouble with just posting attachments simply because my benevolent government takes people saying tranny more seriously than it does violent crime and rape. We got a ban on 'ninja swords' which isn't even a fucking real thing, believe it or not but a medieval spy wouldn't carry a sword if that sword was exclusively used by spys in the same way he wouldn't wear a coat with 'I am a spy' written on the back. The sword that was used in the crime that lead to the ban was not even a fucking 'ninja sword' it was an already banned 'zombie knife'. The banning of such actually directly lead to an increase in severity of knife crime because now instead of massive neon coloured pieces of dog shit aluminium that were impossible to conceal and normally were incredibly dull; criminals simply switched back to the easy to use and conceal knifes that are still just as lethal because swords are not more fucking deadly than a knife because a stab wound in your chest is fatal regardless of what fucking caused it. Even if that specific sword wasn't already banned then it's still fucking pointless because around 1000 people died from stabbings from that specific crime to the day where the ban was announced. Those thousand people that were just as human and deserve to live just as much but they don't get anything, the 999 non ninja sword murders don't get anything, they get buried and forgotten, lucky if their local MP will even know their name much less the PM. And we get stupid fucking niggers cheering them on claiming they care about reducing crime and how it will help out so much all while they refuse to string up these subhuman criminals in the street like they deserve alongside the bankers and people protecting them. These people genuinely believe that BIG ENTITY™ cares about them or real problems. They do not. Believing as such should be a diagnosable mental illness. The schizophrenics are right, they are more in touch with the world than any of these 'normal' people are. I hope that their brownnosing comes back to bite them. I hope that the same system they cheered for fucks them over too. Because I cannot see any way of someone this profoundly retarded and gullible ever seeing sense before then. Fan the flames all you want, just don't come bitching to me when you remember you live in a terraced block. Give me your hats. But Terry said it and once again the schizophrenic is just the modern word for an oracle. Niggercattle.
I wish bankers, politicians and niggercattle the same fate as copyright lawyers.
I'm sure I did not need say any of this. I doubt that there is a single person on this site that thinks any form of censorship is good. Because despite being the internet's darling nazi tranny kill site the farms are more libertarian than any politician that tries to larp as one.
The internet's favourite least creative content creators came to chime in on AI for about the 100th time. I just hate these guys. Literally every single post they make is recycled content they've already posted countless times. How is it that people will get pissed off at whatever drama sloptuber if they make several videos on the same topic but these guys spam the same 5 'jokes' ad infinitum and get nothing but applause? Idk if it's just me, maybe most people don't give a shit about them? But it first stood out to me in a coldones video where they got a cameo from these guys, asked them to say some dumb shit as is the brand, they then said said dumb shit, then could not help but end the cameo with the same played out da vinky joke. I follow them on the shithole that is facebook and don't use it enough to bother unfollowing them, but because they're one of the few people I do follow their shit comes up at the top of my feed every time I open the site to talk to family. It is always the exact same jokes just repackaged in a slightly different frame. They are less original and more formulaic than the AI is ironically. ChatGPT could come up with more original jokes than them.
Anyway he's the frontpage of civitai right now. Because this isn't real art.
All I'm saying is #1, #5 and #10 are way more visually pleasing than almost everything posted on twitter. I do think that the introduction of the openai gptimage model has shat up the featured section a fair amount with techbro borderline redditor tier memes. I will defend the right of people to goon with AI free of banking censorship, but I am convinced that all of the retards spamming the same 'AI bad yucky face ewww' posts have only ever seen the lowest common denominator AI porn posts and not any of this actually nice stuff.
I one of the last posts I spoke about the emotional impact of AI images to me I ended by saying the only thing with online art that could make me feel anything more than the recent shit I've made is if my favourite artist came back, after almost half a year of her not posting she came back genuinely within two hours of writing that post. After a degree in statistics I can firmly say that it's all bullshit and coincidences is just a cope from the retarded. I'm just coming here to say I hope she posts my favourite character again. I will stop taking the funny pills the doctor gave me, I am the oracle and the farms is my temple. I don't need a shrine built over a cave of hallucinogenic gas or whatever they used, I have a boyfriend to fulfill the same purpose.
I'd feel bad for them because bank kikery is never fun and anyone who blocks financial rights should be publicly hung and laughed at, but most of these are the same retarded cunnyrapegroyper1488/tranimelolirape faggots that seethe at this place for telling them what they like is gross and would actively enourage bankers/web platforms to shut this place down, so fuck 'em.
California quite famously can't manage its water well enough to put out fires despite their "everything's on fire" season being the same time every year.
How do these cunts are able to connect the NSDAP to everything bad that happens. Truly, Mr. Hitler was ahead of his time with the way of thinking in "Haterz make me famouz".
I forgot about this thread, until today, when I found myself on the other end - being the hecking wholesome artismo, all of Discord is trying to protect, spamming my DMs, with warnings about an evil AI bot, on a quest to steal all the art, in the library of Discordxandria.
I can't share that, for obvious reasons, but I can share the story and the sources, they all keep linking.
The beginning: Despite everyone pretending this is a completely new thing, on Discords side, nothing changed since December 2024, when DomoAI paid them, to integrate their AI image to image app, into Discord as a user app (in addition to their official Discord bot).
The panic: After months of almost nobody caring about this, Bluesky and Xitter started going crazy:
Rumours started, about it unbanning itself (after noticing the app still works, after they ban a bot, that wasn't even on their server)...
After it continued spreading on Xitter, Reddits finest academics step up to deboonk it, but they're too late...
The furry OC central Toyhou.se climbs Google SEO, to warn everyone of this, boosting moral and ending it with a fucking "stay safe everyone".
The grief:
A YouTube video is made, informing everyone it's over, as there is no way to ban this evil AI.
The problem is that they also need to do /ban ai too as well as the bots. Can't wait to go into the nearest vore erp server to @ grok make this studio ghibli people.
I mean they're claiming that i2i generation is the same thing as using it for training data so maybe the concept of bans is a bit too complex for them. I just tried it myself and it says the bot has existed since 20th september 2023 and honestly it's kinda shit at it's job from just messing around with it. I do remember hearing some people bitch about it a while ago too.
Someone I follow retweeted a post about this 'dispelling' the 'myths' around the AI.
Pretty understandable post. Wonder what her solutions to this are?
Use a provably ineffective software to make everything you post look like shit.
Disable the functionality of every single bot in your server.
Bitch at people.
I just want to know who gives a shit? It's not using the images as training data, it's just i2i generation. Who the fuck is sharing art on Discord anyway? Even if you didn't share it on there, if it's porn of any sort there is a 100% chance it will be shared in some gooner servers at some point. I'm not testing it because I'm not even in any servers, but can other people even see it?
As for the 'the X situation is crazy' #3185372 video.
I'm not watching this shit because I don't want to needlessly waste electricity unlike some people. But here's some retards from the comments.
Our local genius over here can't be bothered to google one thing before doomposting. And from what I've seen it won't turn your precious drawings into slop because there's no way to adjust the strengths or anything and none of the images I've gotten out look anything like the original image.
I thought that the problem with AI is that it is wasteful and uses unneeded power and kills the environment and literally destroys water? Yet you can do the exact same thing and not see a problem? Also just for reference googling 'glaze ai' brings up the glaze homepage as the first result. The second result is a reddit post showing how it fails to work and is entirely useless. Honestly glaze is just 2025's snake oil or MMS or ivermectin or whatever quack bullshit but for AI.
It was the last post where someone said the AI shit was like transvestigations. I'm starting to think they're right because this is fucking gangstalking levels of retarded paranoia. Even if they did scrape discord for training data then adding more images onto that won't do anything. The model is trained already, you don't need more images and if they did they could just scrape all of discord anyway. Because we live in an age where information is famously much harder to come across than it ever has been, I went through the arduous task of googling 'where did domoai get training data'. It brings up their FAQ page. They state very clearly that they do not use user data to train the AI. There you go. Argument over. Go take your fucking pills you retard.
This video must be dogshit if people are having such basic questions in the comments. And of course you have someone coming in to just go yea it probably does this thing that makes no sense and has no evidence of. Yea and also every time it steals one of your images there's a toaster in the main data center and every time it steals an image the AI shoots out a piece of toast. I heard it from my friend who's clinically retarded and a datura user.
Yea. Time to leave discord. The unfathomable amounts of child grooming is perfectly fine. I don't mind being on a service that is possibly the single largest threat to children in the world right now. That's fine. I draw the line at a button to add a filter over an image. It's ok though. I'm sure telegram and their rings of child rapists will accept you with open arms.
Genuinely the best advice in the entire comments. Fuck off and stop caring.
Where's the outrage from these people over snapchat? That's a messaging app that lets you put shitty filters over your images. But they don't care about those for some reason?
Also fucking go outside. My guy is the epitome of the retards in this thread. Literally rent free. If you're letting AI use up so much of your brain power maybe you should just offer yourself up to become one of those matrix brain computer things so you might actually be useful. 11/15 of your recent videos have been bitching about AI. Good job
He started posting a year ago and has been shitting out 'AI bad' videos since the start. I'm not watching any of them but I mean I can see it's just a guy bitching into his camera for a couple thousand views. I'm a bad person for using the GPU I bought with my own money and pay the electrical bill for to make little images of my favourite characters to make me happy. But this guy uploads hours of him bitching about AI with absolutely 0 substance over and over again, using up storage space in youtube's data centre, and a few thousand people waste their time listening to him, but that's not an evil waste of energy unlike me for some magical reason.
He started posting a year ago and has been shitting out 'AI bad' videos since the start. I'm not watching any of them but I mean I can see it's just a guy bitching into his camera for a couple thousand views. I'm a bad person for using the GPU I bought with my own money and pay the electrical bill for to make little images of my favourite characters to make me happy. But this guy uploads hours of him bitching about AI with absolutely 0 substance over and over again, using up storage space in youtube's data centre, and a few thousand people waste their time listening to him, but that's not an evil waste of energy unlike me for some magical reason.
LoL, don't get me started on his "Huge situation on CURRENT TOPIC", "CURRENT TOPIC situation is crazy", "CURRENT TOPIC'S RELATED COMPANY is losing/winning millions" style clickbait.
Saw some claim somewhere that people who enjoy... certain kind of AI-made arts... "have no standards". While such may not be usual, AI-made art can sometimes be just as good as people-made art, so I don't see how that kind of enjoyment alone magically removes all of one's standards. Maybe back around 2020 when AI-generated art always looked like eldritch horrors, but not now. I get the feeling that maybe the one who made such a claim wants people to pay for commissions and pay people on "Patreon" for certain arts...
So ZUN has responded to the controversy of him using AI in the newest Touhou game.
(Link / Google Translate) Note that 神主/"Priest" refers to ZUN.
From what I can tell, ZUN is saying that he refuses to use AI for character art and music because doing so makes creating games "less fun" for him, and that the AI can never replicate his creative spirit. However, since AI is often built-in to the software that he uses to create these games, AI is essentially unavoidable at this point. Additionally, since Adobe's AI doesn't use copyrighted works, it's completely "ethical" from an artistic standpoint. Thus, he sees it as another tool in the toolkit, even though he has a negative opinion of AI in general, because he sees having a militant anti-AI stance as "losing to AI."
Of course, leave it to Reddit to completely quote-mine the guy in order to make him come across as far more callous than he actually was:
"We cannot avoid generative AI, so telling people not to use it shows ignorance of the world," huh? Wow, that sounds pretty harsh! I wonder what the full quote was...
Oh, turns out he was just talking about the fact that AI tools are often built into software these days, thus making it completely unavoidable to use. Meaning that the people criticizing him for using it are essentially barking up the wrong tree.
Generally-speaking, I'm mildly negative-to-neutral on AI, but if you have to resort to distorting his words on the subject to make your point, then I think your side has already lost, just as ZUN said you did.
So ZUN has responded to the controversy of him using AI in the newest Touhou game.
(Link / Google Translate) Note that 神主/"Priest" refers to ZUN.
From what I can tell, ZUN is saying that he refuses to use AI for character art and music because doing so makes creating games "less fun" for him, and that the AI can never replicate his creative spirit. However, since AI is often built-in to the software that he uses to create these games, AI is essentially unavoidable at this point. Additionally, since Adobe's AI doesn't use copyrighted works, it's completely "ethical" from an artistic standpoint. Thus, he sees it as another tool in the toolkit, even though he has a negative opinion of AI in general, because he sees having a militant anti-AI stance as "losing to AI."
Of course, leave it to Reddit to completely quote-mine the guy in order to make him come across as far more callous than he actually was: View attachment 7401804
"We cannot avoid generative AI, so telling people not to use it shows ignorance of the world," huh? Wow, that sounds pretty harsh! I wonder what the full quote was... View attachment 7401808
Oh, turns out he was just talking about the fact that AI tools are often built into software these days, thus making it completely unavoidable to use. Meaning that the people criticizing him for using it are essentially barking up the wrong tree.
Generally-speaking, I'm mildly negative-to-neutral on AI, but if you have to resort to distorting his words on the subject to make your point, then I think your side has already lost, just as ZUN said you did.
So just being neutral towards ai nets backlash in a world where ai use has been as commonplace as phones? Like what? I'm personally neutral myself with some inklings towards humans but people need to understand that tech will progress no matter what you do? And to what's even more stupid is the people whining about ai are digital artist who use tablets made from rare earth metals to make art. What legs can somebody stand on before the whole thing collapses like a jenga tower?
I love this guy, he's got decent lolcow potential imo. this is actually his second or third channel but he nuked his original gaming commentary channel once this one started getting views. He's very blatantly a moist clone but he leans into it i guess.
He used to take commissions and would charge $80-100 per piece, but he has since stopped. For reference, here's an example of one of his incredible works, crazy watermarks and glaze artifacts in all their glory, and surely worth $80-100. if he was born 10 years earlier he would have been huge on deviantart i think.
his artstation, somewhat nsfw. not his entire body of work but im not gonna bother going through this faggots other socials.
Holy shit, even during the DeviantArt "original furry/Sonic OC - DO NOT STEAL! " era, I've never seen anyone put the watermarks over the whole thing, complete with a Chinese translation and "no AI allowed", tattoos with his nickname on the OC, ats and QR code to his socialis in a black box that's part of the art, with a layer of glaze on top.
If I didn't see the YouTube channel first, I'd assume this has to be a parody.
Yet more proof that moist charlie and it's consequences have been disastrous for the human race. I wonder what his opinion on loras designed to copy an artist's style would be?
I do always find it funny to see the most average mspaint art has such a high percentage of these watermarks. Like do people really think AI would be stealing this? Even if you ignore the existence of all the watermark removal things and that sort of stuff, do these people really think that anyone wants to train an AI with this?
Oh boy, more seething over ZUN using AI:
Context: recently ZUN and his lawyers did copyright strikes upon various YouTube uploaders posting OST soundtracks to the Touhou games, which, while annoying and bad for PR, they are within their legal bounds to do so. Now, ZUN's lawyer, Ruw, has decided to stoke the flames by accusing the people who claim AI is copyright infringement while also uploading their music of being massive hypocrites.
"AI is worse than piracy, because you're not just stealing the content, but also the credits." Isn't that literally just how Fair Use works?
The AI ZUN used was trained on stock images, so none of these arguments apply.
Again, the AI only used stock images, so your argument of intellectual property doesn't apply.
This Redditor obviously doesn't know how Firefly works.
Finally, one from someone who obviously didn't play the game or even do basic research:
This reply got it right:
Oh boy, more seething over ZUN using AI: View attachment 7409374
Context: recently ZUN and his lawyers did copyright strikes upon various YouTube uploaders posting OST soundtracks to the Touhou games, which, while annoying and bad for PR, they are within their legal bounds to do so. Now, ZUN's lawyer, Ruw, has decided to stoke the flames by accusing the people who claim AI is copyright infringement while also uploading their music of being massive hypocrites.
View attachment 7409376 "AI is worse than piracy, because you're not just stealing the content, but also the credits." Isn't that literally just how Fair Use works?
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The AI ZUN used was trained on stock images, so none of these arguments apply.
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Again, the AI only used stock images, so your argument of intellectual property doesn't apply.