US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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Current members of the House of Representatives
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Current members of the US Supreme Court
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Members of the Trump Administration
https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/

 

[The Last Stand]

A major problem in the US is how the judicial system is abused to implicitly compel behavior. This is primarily done by companies but states do it, obviously California being the prime example.

I'd argue that California intentionally misinterprets "states' rights" to be its own dictatorship as it is a lawless hellhole with no resemblance of sense of how to govern anything.

 

[Romulus augustulus]

inability to assimilate

The Romans were assimilating the goths quite well right up until the end. When Flavius Odoacer deposed Romulus Augustulus in 476 with the backing of the Senate in Rome and the former western emperor Julius Nepos. When Nepos was assassinated in 480 Odoacer led a army into Dalmatia to pacify the province and punish his murderers.

Odoacer recognized The Eastern Emperor's more senior authority and in return Emperor Zeno granted the Western Empire to Odoacer to rule in his stead as King of Italy and Dux of the army (Dux is the origin of the noble title of Duke.) Odoacer kept in place roman law the west kept on running like it had for the last few hundred years. When Zeno inticed Theodoric the great to depose odoacer he ruled in much the same way. Theodoric actually spurred a new roman golden age in italy and built many great works like the old emperors had.

The point is the only difference between Odoacer and Theodoric and any of the dozens of usurper emperors in Roman history is that they did not take the imperial title for themselves. by recognizing the Eastern empire as the more senior power they were able to cement their rule. They ruled in the East's name, They took their Authority (ceremoniously) from the East and saw themselves as citizens of the empire.

The Roman state continued on in most respects, just without a Emperor in rome itself. until Justinian's gothic war in the 6th century absolutely devastated Italy, ending antiquity in the west and beginning the dark ages.

it was this massive power vacuum after the collapse of all central authority in western europe because of Justinians foolishness that led to the Bishop of rome usurping much of the power of Roman emperorship to himself. The church absorbed much of the surviving bureaucracy in the west.

but even after all that most every government in western europe strove to emulate roman power. they copied roman laws, took roman titles and even the most simple of governmental actions - the minting of coins was roman in form (and actually caused many political scandals as the emperor in constantinople claimed sole authority to mint coins in all of europe).

 

[The Last Stand]

Agreed. The 1st and 14th amendments are a stupid idea once one considers the fact that Jews exist.

Giving up essential liberties to own the Jews

Why would Jews be afraid of the government having a list of religious Jews right after the Holocaust? Take a minute to think about it.

The current census has a question that allows you to mark yourself as Jewish.

WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU EVEN TALKING ABOUT???

 

[God of Nothing]

WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU EVEN TALKING ABOUT???

he's being jewish

 

[FieldPiece]

WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU EVEN TALKING ABOUT???

You see jews constantly being accused of running the banks and shit is a deadly and evil falsehood that will lead to another holocaust and also Jews definitely aren't in charge of any of those things. But a law banning them from running the things that they definitely don't run which would make anyone accusing them of running them look like a schizoid is bad, because IT JUST IS OKAY!

 

[I'mma real anime gurl]

Slow news day causes the Jewish question instead of talking about Captain Planet or Stargate.

 

[Sneedifarms]

My AG-turned Governor literally makes it up as she goes along and no one sues.

I hate how I know that you're talking about Maura Healey.

 

[ThisIsGonnaBeGood]

Sad news, bros. Total Europoor Death has been postponed.

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[Aidan]

I'd argue that California intentionally misinterprets "states' rights" to be its own dictatorship as it is a lawless hellhole with no resemblance of sense of how to govern anything.

Right, and it wasn't difficult to predict this 250 years ago. It was accounted for. The problem is captured courts and a disastrous bureaucracy that shields them.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

Furthermore, you're exactly right - it did follow the Holocaust. Why do you think a sudden influx of Jewish immigrants to a country wanted to hide their identities? I'm sure your answer would be that they would be afraid of persecution, but the US at this point would have been perhaps one of the most friendly countries to Jews at this point in history. So why? Surely not for any other reason.

it must be so liberating being a retarded wignat and not having to know context or anything, just blame the Jews and nothing further. Germany was one of the most Jewish friendly countries pre Hitler and had an extremely high rate of assimilation. That all fell apart in 20 years after WW1 despite Jews serving in the military in numbers greater than their proportion of the population. There was a legitimate fear that this may happen again.

I'm ending my involvement in this argument here because responding to pilpul is like responding to bait. The person you're arguing with has no interest in a good faith debate and you just look retarded no matter what.

wignats are funny as fuck because when they're challenged on any of their shit, they drop the pretense of being superior and just run away in fear.

WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU EVEN TALKING ABOUT???

pointing out that maybe it's not worth giving up essential civil rights and liberties to own the Jews

You see jews constantly being accused of running the banks and shit is a deadly and evil falsehood that will lead to another holocaust and also Jews definitely aren't in charge of any of those things. But a law banning them from running the things that they definitely don't run which would make anyone accusing them of running them look like a schizoid is bad, because IT JUST IS OKAY!

imagine being so obsessed with jews that you destroy your own constitution in order to fuck them over. very MAGA

 

[God of Nothing]

imagine being so obsessed with jews that you destroy your own constitution in order to fuck them over. very MAGA

one minute you're all for it
the next you're against

my jew, you are the jewiest jew on this site

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

one minute you're all for it

im not for it you dumb nigger. to clarify

First amendment, 14th amendment, stupid idea

when i said this, i meant the 1st and 14th amendment make that impossible. It's a stupid idea.

im not for removing any amendments

 

[FieldPiece]

one minute you're all for it
the next you're against

my jew, you are the jewiest jew on this site

Jews treading on others rights? "If we don't then all jews will be shoahcausted!"

Jews being regulated so they don't get shoah'd? TYRANNY OY VEY ANUDDAH SHOAH

 

[God of Nothing]

im not for it you dumb nigger. to clarify

i thought you were supposed to be skilled with language and smart enough to realize what exactly i'm referring to, especially with your posts here

I guess the shame's just on us for really expecting a Jew to advocate for the self-determinism of other countries and peoples.

 

[WelperHelper99]

it must be so liberating being a retarded wignat and not having to know context or anything, just blame the Jews and nothing further. Germany was one of the most Jewish friendly countries pre Hitler and had an extremely high rate of assimilation. That all fell apart in 20 years after WW1 despite Jews serving in the military in numbers greater than their proportion of the population. There was a legitimate fear that this may happen again.

Imagine caring about a dead mustache man from 80 years ago. I fucking can't. Get over it nigga. This is why people are annoyed. The pity party has to end and constantly going "another shoah" makes you look like the boy who cried wolf.

Sad news, bros. Total Europoor Death has been postponed.
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You say sad, but I see Total Europoor Buckbreaking on the horizon.

 

[browserbowser]

that will lead to another holocaust

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attractor

In the mathematical field of dynamical systems, an attractor is a set of states toward which a system tends to evolve, for a wide variety of starting conditions of the system. System values that get close enough to the attractor values remain close even if slightly disturbed.

Dynamical systems in the physical world tend to arise from dissipative systems: if it were not for some driving force, the motion would cease. (Dissipation may come from internal friction, thermodynamic losses, or loss of material, among many causes.) The dissipation and the driving force tend to balance, killing off initial transients and settle the system into its typical behavior. The subset of the phase space of the dynamical system corresponding to the typical behavior is the attractor, also known as the attracting section or attractee.

Invariant sets and limit sets are similar to the attractor concept. An invariant set is a set that evolves to itself under the dynamics. Attractors may contain invariant sets. A limit set is a set of points such that there exists some initial state that ends up arbitrarily close to the limit set (i.e. to each point of the set) as time goes to infinity. Attractors are limit sets, but not all limit sets are attractors: It is possible to have some points of a system converge to a limit set, but different points when perturbed slightly off the limit set may get knocked off and never return to the vicinity of the limit set.

A limit cycle is a periodic orbit of a continuous dynamical system that is isolated. It concerns a cyclic attractor. Examples include the swings of a pendulum clock, and the heartbeat while resting. The limit cycle of an ideal pendulum is not an example of a limit cycle attractor because its orbits are not isolated: in the phase space of the ideal pendulum, near any point of a periodic orbit there is another point that belongs to a different periodic orbit, so the former orbit is not attracting. For a physical pendulum under friction, the resting state will be a fixed-point attractor. The difference with the clock pendulum is that there, energy is injected by the escapement mechanism to maintain the cycle.

The concept of inevitability is a hell of a thing when you can explain it in simple terms.

Just saying, arguing about it is just fun and doesn't shape the future. For anybody, on any side, of the topic.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

Jews treading on others rights? "If we don't then all jews will be shoahcausted!"

point to where i supported Jews "treading on others rights"

I guess the shame's just on us for really expecting a Jew to advocate for the self-determinism of other countries and peoples.

you mean when i advocated for americans to keep their civil liberties instead of throwing it away on a meme?

Imagine caring about a dead mustache man from 80 years ago. I fucking can't. Get over it nigga. This is why people are annoyed. The pity party has to end and constantly going "another shoah" makes you look like the boy who cried wolf.

what is context

he complained that Jews in 1960 were against religious questions in the census, i pointed out why and also pointed out that this question now shows up in the census. Can you really not tell the difference between 1960 and 2025?

 

[Levitcus prime24]

So trump just criticized Putin does that mean the left is going to start skimping for out in now?

 

[WelperHelper99]

what is context

he complained that Jews in 1960 were against religious questions in the census, i pointed out why and also pointed out that this question now shows up in the census. Can you really not tell the difference between 1960 and 2025?

I didn't care about his question, I cared about your response which invoked Germany. Move on bro. Hitler and the Nazis are dead. Gone.

 

[FieldPiece]

point to where i supported Jews "treading on others rights"

Damn I didn't know you control all the jews in the world. Now that I know you speak for all jews. Clearly all the jews like Ginsberg deciding that raping a child to death was not a particularly heinous crime or Epstein raping kids. Why did you make them do that?