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Also a big factor in this is generational experience/institutional knowledge.
That is a core problem with the PLA as a whole. They can update their armed forces all they want, but there is going to be a ton of growing pains once shit hits the fan as their officers and solders need to decide between sticking to the books written by people with no experience or doing what works even if it goes against protocol. The USSR had a lot of trouble with this too and the time to sort this issue out isn't in the middle of a major war with the US.
 
I more so meant that going to single income may not be enough for everyone to make ends meet, even factoring in child care, not that not everyone would enjoy it.
I think it would do a lot of good to reinforce that having kids in unideal situations is not the end of the world and in the vast majority of cases looking back 10 years later you won't regret it.
I don't think a ton of maternity leave or free childbirth will fix anything either given Europe has this and their birth rate is still declining.
I think part of it is cultural (probably a large part) but also for those who do want kids infertility and PCOS relating to poor maternal health (especially insulin resistance) has also been rapidly increasing too. IVF is not an ideal method of dealing with this because it often takes multiple rounds, multiple failed attempts, multiple miscarriages before it results in a successful pregnancy. Insurance usually also cuts off coverage of it after a certain amount of attempts as well.
Addressing the RFK Jr related issues surrounding obesity and diabetes may go a long way though. I know a few women who were told they would never be able to get pregnant due to PCOS who can't nnected with a good specialist doctor, improved their metabolic health, and had multiple healthy pregnancies.
Edit: Also increasing rates of anxiety and depression and SSRI use may not be helping either. SSRIs don't just dampen negative emotions, and I would be curious if there's any link between using them and lack of a desire to have children.
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Not to completely downplay the Chinese efforts but you seem to lack understanding on scale. The Chinese navy is rocking 3 aircraft carriers which sounds pretty serious until you realize the US is rocking 11 (super)carriers all of which out tonnage the Chinese by 20-40 thousand tons each. The Chinese navy has a absolute fuckload of coastal/brown water boats but are sorely lacking in blue water capability and force projection.

Also a big factor in this is generational experience/institutional knowledge. We know how to run carriers efficiently, (mostly)safely, and at a much bigger scale than the Chinese. The American navy cut it's teeth in WW2 and continued to train and get into conflicts during/post cold war. The training videos that have come out of the PLAN are crazy to watch and something that would have a USN officer lose command and most likely be chaptered out too. We simply have been at this much longer and have put more resources into this game than the Chinese.

Also also, there is a cultural factor too, but more experienced racisms than me can get into the chink factor.

Edit: Also their carriers have COPE SLOPES™️ so my opinion on them is lower out of the gate.

China has 23 million tonnes of shipyard capacity compared to 100,000 tonnes in the USA. They are going to put over 100 modern blue water ships into the ocean in the next decade. They have more than enough capacity to swamp you until they get it right.
 
This is what I don't get. I got a lot of tail before I grew up and married, but never had to deal with an abortion or unwanted pregnancy. If you don't want to deal with a baby or abortion, use contraceptives. They are available and easy to use. No pill or fucked up your pill schedule? Use a condom. Don't like taking the pill every day or it gives you hormonal issues (which is a legitimate thing, by the way)? Use a condom. Don't want to use a condom because muh feels and don't want to use any birth control? Well then you're rolling the dice and you're a fucking idiot for complaining when it comes up snake eyes.

If it's that scary to deal with, then it should ruin the mood anyway.
Honestly, this. I feel it’s completely ridiculous to ever get pregnant this day and age. And a big counter a lot of pro choice lefties give me is “they’re trying to get rid of sex ed and planned parenthood, how will they learn about contraceptives?” Which has always been retarded. If I knew what condoms and birth control were as a kid because of the Internet, I guarantee you every kid with a smart phone(all of them) know about them with and without planned parenthood or sex Ed. In fact, I never even had sex Ed as a kid. It was a one day course at my school and I had a doctor’s appointment and missed it. I still figured out all the info
 
I've played enough 4x games to not just discount the "pop rush, ignore tech" builds. Hell, in MoM/MoO they were literally bugmen.

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China is asshole but China is asshole ran by marxists, and marxists aren't just stupid, they're stupid and evil. If China could they'd put every one of us in work camps and move 300 million Chinese to America to take our place and they wouldn't even really notice the population changes. Best not to take them lightly.
 
and they wouldn't even really notice the population changes
You're about 15 years late on that one bud, they're experiencing an enormous population crunch concentrated around working age populations. If they were able to conquer a place the human resource would be one of the biggest prizes.
 
China has 23 million tonnes of shipyard capacity compared to 100,000 tonnes in the USA. They are going to put over 100 modern blue water ships into the ocean in the next decade. They have more than enough capacity to swamp you until they get it right.
I don't think the navy is the kind of thing you want to go quantity over quality for. Ok, they put out 100 ships with green crews vs the metric fuck ton the US already has deployed. Also every ship sunk for the Chinese represents dozens or hundreds of families without a first born son to take care of them which is a major strain on their society.
 
The last time the PLA was in combat, they lost to Vietnam. I don't know the Chinese military but I wonder if they suffer the same corruption problems as the Arabs do in their militaries, plus the one child policy may have fucked up the soldiers.


Beyond the size of the military budget, the one-child policy’s creation of “little emperor syndrome” threatens the discipline and tenacity of the People’s Liberation Army. When over 70% of soldiers come from families in which the child was the sole pride and joy of two parents and four grandparents, the spoiled, entitled attitude presents a strategic vulnerability in combat.[vii] If true, this problem will not begin to subside for at least another 20 years even if reproductive patterns start changing as early as March when the policy will likely take full effect.

In addition to the impacts on the military itself, the one-child policy has created a contradictory dynamic for the overall likelihood of conflict. While countries with older populations tend to be more averse to war, having large populations of men with no prospects for marriage tends to contribute to the rise of violent conflict.[viii] China’s surplus of males will likely peak in the next twenty years with an estimated 40-50 million bachelors unable to find a wife.[ix] Without significant reforms in China’s welfare policies, the peak male surplus will likely coincide with massive domestic unrest as it struggles to figure out how to pay for the elder generations. The confluence of these trends could serve as a fatal spark for conflict, either internally or externally in order to distract from domestic unrest.
 
ohhh got any links?
I'm a little inebriated from the memorial day bbq and cant find the one I'm thinking of. An exterior door blew inward and they are using electric power tools while standing in water continuely failing to get the door closed alongside other errors.

1st: their third carrier is a 80,000 ton supercarrier.

2nd. They are building more

3rd: they will figure out the carrier knowledge no matter how many Wangs and Hans have to take a dip in the drink to do it.

Assuming we will always be at the top is how we lose our dominance. The Chinese are hellbent at closing the gap. They will if we don't get our shit together
I'm not disagreeing completely that the Chinese are attempting to catch up but I think you are being somewhat alarmist. Also the Chinese are gonna hit a massive demographic issue in the coming years so it will be interesting to see how that effects their naval build up plans alongside their overall long term plans.
 
I don't think the navy is the kind of thing you want to go quantity over quality for. Ok, they put out 100 ships with green crews vs the metric fuck ton the US already has deployed. Also every ship sunk for the Chinese represents dozens or hundreds of families without a first born son to take care of them which is a major strain on their society.

Their latest ships are quite good. And like I said, the Chinese can outproduce you in ships to a far greater extent then the USA could outproduce the Japanese in ww2.

They have more than enough depth to pay the butchers bill.
 
And conversely: China is perfecting mass producing the thing america grew tired of 30 years ago. Here's why they will take over the world.

Edit: More accurate.
The Chinese have a huge complex about the Korean War as mentioned earlier since it's the closest thing they can point to as a victory in their recent military history. It makes it doubly hilarious because all wumao discourse about their military prowess revolves around China automatically winning any future Pacific War 2.0 against America because they have more manufacturing and that's all that matters. Yet when they crow about 'victory' in Korea despite the fact that Communist China in 1950 had no manufacturing compared to America just getting off it's WW2 high, all of a sudden none of that matters and it all came down to the indomitable bugman spirit and the willingness to eat bitterness.
 
China has 23 million tonnes of shipyard capacity compared to 100,000 tonnes in the USA. They are going to put over 100 modern blue water ships into the ocean in the next decade. They have more than enough capacity to swamp you until they get it right.
23 million tons of ships built from Chinese steel is 23 million tons of artificial reef.
 

There are people on this forum who are both violently against Abortion and Niggers. You would think these kinds of statistics would define a necessary evil perfectly, yet the debate rages on. No. Taking the easy way out for negresses away from them won't slow them down. They will just drop the niglet off in a dumpster and move on.

The last time the PLA was in combat, they lost to Vietnam. I don't know the Chinese military but I wonder if they suffer the same corruption problems as the Arabs do in their militaries, plus the one child policy may have fucked up the soldiers.

To be fair, America lost to Vietnam as well. That's not a good meter stick.
 
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I'm not disagreeing completely that the Chinese are attempting to catch up but I think you are being somewhat alarmist. Also the Chinese are gonna hit a massive demographic issue in the coming years so it will be interesting to see how that effects their naval build up plans alongside their overall long term plans
You are calling the US Navy alarmist then. China is considered a peer adversery. Have you even heard of Force 2030? My neezy we have been pivoting to the pacific well even before Trump 1.
Are they? Why?
They want to take over the fucking world. They still got a bone to pick with Japan, Taiwan, Vietnam, really they hate everything not named China.
 
Hypersonics is such a bullshit term that means literally nothing. Patriot can hit hypersonics, it was built to hit hypersonic weapons, because most big boy threats have been hypersonic for a long while now. What people really are worried about are smart, hypermanuverable weapons like it's fucking Ace Combat, of which not even the US can get working at hypersonic speeds thanks to the current limitations of material science. That said, there is some worry about extremely low flying air-breathing RAM jet type hypersonics. These can be a legitimate threat to ships, albeit the current mechanisms in place can, theoretically, deal with them. Doubly so since stealth-hypersonics are so ludicrously expensive and nearly impossible for everybody NOT the US to even think about trying.
You know what I mean, though. The new doctrine that the US, China, and Russia are trying out with missiles is speed uber alles. Making Ace Combat drones or fighters is harder than making a rocket that goes super fucking fast. As for materials science, the US government is doing some very interesting stuff at Argonne National Lab, the National Renewable Energy Lab, and the US Naval Research Lab. I have a sneaking suspicion that a lot of the money earmarked for "renewables research" within the Department of Energy was meant to have downstream military applications.

Your point about stealth hypersonics is dead-on: neither China nor Russia has the money to build these things and, even when the US does produce them, we only make a handful because they're wicked expensive even for us.

The US government did some pretty whacky shit with materials science in the old Watertown Arsenal until the 1980's, most of which is still classified, and a lot of which gave a lot of locals mega-cancer, but that's more a factoid than anything else. It's still a superfund site.
IIRC, even though we do have anti-ICBM systems, we have so few of them that they would be ineffective in an actual nuclear shootout. I'm guessing the golden dome system would involve building much more of them.
That's sort of the problem. The main problem is Russia has thousands of warheads, they can always build more (the Soviets had an estimated 40,000 total in 1986), and at a certain point there is nothing you can do from a defensive perspective. Russia has the ~5,500 nukes in its current stockpile because that's more than enough to fucking annihilate the US if need be.

I guess it's a chicken or the egg thing. I used to know a guy who worked on the anti-ICBM systems developed by Raytheon. All I asked him was "well, does it work?" He said yeah, the system works, but not if Russia throws its entire nuclear arsenal at us all at once. It's capable of shooting down a few missiles from North Korea or Iran, but we can kiss our ass goodbye if Russia decides to send us their love. I think what Trump is doing is trying to upgrade the existing missile defense "infrastructure" (for a lack of better words) to put China on notice that its smaller stockpile isn't as toothy as it once was. Or maybe I'm a retard? I've been wrong before and this wouldn't be the last time, either.

Notice how Russia isn't making a stink about Golden Dome? All it did say was this could start an arms race in space and possibly violate the Space Treaty of 1967... which the US and Russia are signatories of. Then, a day later, they walked back the criticism. I don't think Russia cares because it still has its giant nuclear arsenal.
Unironically, look at the gays to see where 'consequence free' sex gets you as a culture. And it's a hard discussion, because yeah I think people should be able to choose (not in the abortion sense, different topic) when they are ready for kids, and kids are a big fucking responsibility so one should really think about it. But, without consequences to sex it becomes less important to people when it is really important not just for procreation, but for maintaining a healthy relationship with your partner and your own body.
Like all things it comes down to personal responsibility, a rarer thing these days it seems.
Listen, I'm not saying it's a great idea to go around having sex willy nilly without consequences. What I'm saying is that, at this point in the US, an unwanted pregnancy is completely avoidable. I expect people to have some personal responsibility. Use protection. Take the pill. Fuck her in the ass, I don't know, but everyone knows what happens when you jizz inside a woman's cunt and I do not feel sorry in the slightest for full-grown adults who suddenly have to face the consequences of their actions. If a complete idiot like me can figure out how to avoid an unwanted pregnancy, then anyone can do it.
 
I guarantee you every kid with a smart phone(all of them) know about them with and without planned parenthood or sex Ed. In fact, I never even had sex Ed as a kid. It was a one day course at my school and I had a doctor’s appointment and missed it. I still figured out all the info
Has anybody ever actually told a child how sex works? I'm sure they would figure it out themselves one way or another when they hit their teenage years. All you'd need to know is how to protect yourself if you want to have sex without wanting children.
 
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