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Reddit and other places are speculating that the doctor will regenerate into billie pipper at the end of the finale, if that happens I will laugh my ass off.
>uses nostalgia baiting
>kills any intrest in the show
>brings up lore ruining additions to the show
>has gatwa only stay for two seasons
>disney deal gets fucked up near the end
>ends the season with a bizzare stunt casting
>leaves the next showrunner to clean up the mess

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You forgot turning Omega into a big octopus/crab monster if the leaks are anything to go by. Also, bi-genration will supposedly be "explained" in the finale according to his comments on instagram.
 
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You forgot turning Omega into a big octopus/crab monster if the leaks are anything to go by. Also, bi-genration will supposedly be "explained" in the finale if his comments on instagram are anything to go by.
it will be something wishy washy like Donna saying to the doctor that "that face returned because you were tired enough to repeat them/to say goodbye" something underwhelming like that
 
There are at least 10 Torchwood episodes worse than Miracle Day, and Miracle Day had Ernie Hudson and Lonestar from Spaceballs playing a pedophile. I don't understand why it's so disliked in comparison to the rest of the show.
Maybe it wouldn't be viewed so harshly if it didn't have to follow up Children of Earth, but the American production just did it no favors. It didn't feel like the same show, most of the plot revolved around new American characters who were much less interesting than the previous regulars, and the plot was very meandering and unsatisfying. The whole idea of
Jack's blood being able to grant other people immortality is stupid and just seems like an American writer who didn't watch Doctor Who or understand the reason behind Jack's immortality
just making shit up for his plot to be able to happen. Even back then TARDIS wiki was a thing, there's no excuse.
It just felt like Jack and Gwen had wandered onto the set of another show with zero relation to Doctor Who and were cameo'ing in an American sci-fi series. Part of what made Torchwood work I think was its proximity to Who, not that the Doctor himself ever appeared but creatures from the main show would, it followed the same logic and had similar rules, and we even got Martha Jones for a few episodes. Torchwood without its proximity to Doctor Who is just kind of a crap campy sci-fi show with sex and f-bombs but Miracle Day didn't even really have the camp or fun, either. (Barring Children of Earth of course which stands on its own.)

Why is it even called "Miracle Day" anyway?
Spoilers, sweetie:
One day everyone on Earth is incapable of dying for some reason. Being shot or stabbed won't kill you, terminal diseases are no longer killing people, etc.

As for whether or not to watch, I'd say maybe at least watch the first couple of episodes of Series 1 so you can get an idea of what Torchwood is and how it operates so when you go into Children of Earth you aren't totally lost as to who the characters are. By that point the cast has been slimmed down though so not everyone from the main series is in Children of Earth.

Off the cuff, maybe S1E1, S1E8, S1E10, S1E12, S2E4. S2 E 6, 7, 8 are kind of a three parter, different stories but dealing with similar stuff to S1E8 and the same plot element which might be okay. Kind of hard to recommend the finale as it's all written by Chibs but those last three episodes also deal with Jack's past with elements which were osteincibly okayed by RTD.

Also, S1E11 was notably written by Noel Clarke, the actor who played Mickey/Ricky in the first RTD era.


>leaves the next showrunner to clean up the mess
He's been writing for a third series, plus all the spinoffs so I don't think he has any intention of going anywhere. And between him and Chibs the brand is so toxic I'm not sure anyone else would want the job anyway. At least not with how nepotistic Doctor Who as a business venture is, Rusty would only allow one of his friends to take over, someone sufficiently woke enough to carry his torch. (-wood. Hopefully that's just an innuendo.)

it will be something wishy washy like Donna saying to the doctor that "that face returned because you were tired enough to repeat them/to say goodbye" something underwhelming like that
My initial belief was that essentially Fifteen was pulled from further down his timeline back to Fourteen's time, and that one day Fourteen will regenerate into Fifteen for real, and one day be pulled back into his own timestream by Fourteen bi-generating. But now you have The Rani doing it, plus Davies made comments about how he had this belief that 'every' Doctor bi-generated and simply woke up in their respective TARDISes to continue their adventures. It's not necessarily canonized, but it's what he believes so I'm sure it will be made canon at some point. So I don't know what to believe now but I'm sure the answer will be very dumb, unsatisfying and have horrible implications for canon as all the childless harpies and homosexuals cackle and say "who cares about canon, it's just a TV show, it's so weird you care so much bro!" as the ratings continue to plummet.
 
So uh....just to double check if the amused shittalking and shitposting I have seen elsewhere is legit, a couple episodes ago they introduced some "angry former fan" caricature who was lectured for an episode about how disgusting and worthless he is for not liking currentnow Doctor Who and not wanting to pay the benevolent and deserving BBC his loiscence fee to keep it going, and they subsequently brought him back for this latest episode in which he was given god powers to forcibly turn the world into some 1950s bigut dystopia where women are perfect docile housewives, gays are banned and cripples are being holocausted or something. Is that round about what the jist of things is or has hyperbole tainted the water supply?
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Alright, so RTD just doesn't know how to do finales.
Please tell me it didn't take you this long to figure that out.

I could've told you that back in 2008.
Kind of, I think it was more that her field of interest was usually biological in nature to set her apart from the Master.
The Master was always more of an agent of chaos and driven by lust for power, sort of a Caligula type but without the whole "succession of power backfires" bit.

Rani is more of a Josef Mengele type. She only cared about her research and she wasn't going to let none of those silly ethics stand in the way of getting results. I think she did actually rule a planet once, but even that was just to get a lot of test subjects.
 
Reddit and other places are speculating that the doctor will regenerate into billie pipper at the end of the finale, if that happens I will laugh my ass off.
>uses nostalgia baiting
>kills any intrest in the show
>brings up lore ruining additions to the show
>has gatwa only stay for two seasons
>disney deal gets fucked up near the end
>ends the season with a bizzare stunt casting
>leaves the next showrunner to clean up the mess

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I am feeling the same temptation that drove me to charge through the accursed currentyear discworld series I mentioned a few pages ago and rundown/review it for posterity to now do the same with this upcoming finale given these rumors and what I have already heard

I don't want to...I fucking know its gonna suck ass and suck ass bad. I have not watched a full episode in over ten fucking years now because of how shit things had already become circa 2014, and have zero knowledge of whats going on beyond the confused and disgusted commentary some of the more infamous episodes....but if what niggas are saying is true and this might mark either the figurative or (assuming suggestions the show is begging for renewal that may not come) literal death of the show, then I feel it is only right and proper that I bear witness
 
The finale will definitely be schlocky given it's only an hour, but there's been finales before that were entertainingly schlocky. Last year's wasn't even that.
 
The finale will definitely be schlocky given it's only an hour, but there's been finales before that were entertainingly schlocky. Last year's wasn't even that.
im wondering how Susan's gonna factor in the finale, are we gonna learn how she survives the time war or will she just be a loose end?
 
Why is it even called "Miracle Day" anyway?
The plot is everyone now is undying except for Jack who can now die. Unfortunately the people don't have the super healing so they can have some pretty terrible diseases, injuries, and infections that should kill them but don't.
 
im wondering how Susan's gonna factor in the finale, are we gonna learn how she survives the time war or will she just be a loose end?
Supposedly a glass avatar of her (a concept previously shown in Twice Upon a Time) shows up to be with the Doctor as he regenerates. I would imagine the real Susan is long dead by now.
 
Supposedly a glass avatar of her (a concept previously shown in Twice Upon a Time) shows up to be with the Doctor as he regenerates. I would imagine the real Susan is long dead by now.
You know it aint exactly impossible she regenerates into Billie Piper, with the leaker having mistaken her regeneration scene for the doctor's....no idea why I am spoilering this but whatever

Would fit right in with Russel's general record of being an insufferable degenerate even aside from him being a literal faggot.

Come to think of it, given how Omega is apparently in this shitshow now, maybe he is the one who regenerates into her.
 
You know it aint exactly impossible she regenerates into Billie Piper, with the leaker having mistaken her regeneration scene for the doctor's....no idea why I am spoilering this but whatever

Would fit right in with Russel's general record of being an insufferable degenerate even aside from him being a literal faggot.

Come to think of it, given how Omega is apparently in this shitshow now, maybe he is the one who regenerates into her.
wasnt it retcon'd that Susan's galifran name is something that means "Rose" as well (might have been before nu who, not sure)
its maximum dog shit, Bravo russ
 
edit: imo the show peaked with mccoy
Eh....gonna have to fuckin disagree. I have come to see the McCoy years in a whole lot bleaker light after recognising the same patterns then that we see now.

Not just the fixation with the showrunners loudly screaming into the void how progressive they are and how much they super duper hate biguts and nazis n stuff, not just the overt seething hate for the ungrateful proles who think the show is shit now and thus refuse to watch anymore, not even just the showrunner being an insufferable squealing homosexual degenerate and probable nonce who was obsessed with crowbarring his spank material onscreen. Its the absolutely fucking desperate nostalgia baiting and membaberry seeding.

The current squealing homosexual degenerate's tenure started with nostalgia baiting so fucking abject it was called ahead of time by me of all people with his decision to bring back David Tenant. Since then he has thrown everyone from Donna to the Celestial Toymaker to Sutekh to Susan to The Rani to Omega to the fucking Midnight monster at the wall to try and stop the views from dropping. None of it has worked, and he is pretty much out of membaberries high profile enough to not be Classic Era Glup Shittos beyond the Valeyard (which lets be honest, is probably next to be fired at the wall) and maybe a handful of Nu Who alumni whose careers tanked to the point where they are desperate enough to get paid to cameo.

Honestly, I just can't see any way out of this shit without another effective or literal cancelation, much like how the Mccoy era ended once it became clear the writers and producers had nothing left in their arsenal that could bring back viewers enough for the show to be worth making anymore.
 
I could see Susan regenerating into 'Rose' just because it would give Billie Piper a way back into the show without retconning Rose's story at all, I guess he saw that people received her well as The Moment during the 50th. Still retarded but less retarded than the Doctor regenerating into Billie Piper.

I also agree McCoy's era is an eerie glimpse into the future of the show as it is today. Every other episode it feels like the bad guys are "nazis" or it's a thinly veiled critique of Thatcher whining about the headlines of the time. It's not every single episode, but it's enough that makes it feel Current Year in the worst ways.
 
Bi-generation feels like a cheap gimmick in a universe where multiple incarnations of a Time Lord can and do cross paths. If there is an older self vs. younger self / internal conflict to build a story on then that could be interesting (E.g. the Master vs. Missy.)

Otherwise what is the point of having 2 Ranis? (Potential for "Two Ronnies" gags but no-one in the current audience would be old enough to remember them.) Archie Panjabi comes across so bland compared to Anita Dobson. Anita can actually act deceptively sweet and menacing; Archie, in spite of ominous music, Ncuti doing his scared little baby face at her, killer high heels and loads of eyeliner, just doesn't come across that way.
 
I also agree McCoy's era is an eerie glimpse into the future of the show as it is today. Every other episode it feels like the bad guys are "nazis" or it's a thinly veiled critique of Thatcher whining about the headlines of the time. It's not every single episode, but it's enough that makes it feel Current Year in the worst ways
yeah, i just like the 7th doctor tbh

his era had alot of problems, but his delivery was rly good, so i may have some rose-tinted glasses

a lot like capaldi
 
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