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[Stone Enjoyer]

What's that about?

Autism

 

[SoyRageEngaged]

It is my opinion that transgenderism is merely a means to an end. There are demons living below each major city in the world. They clearly require human sacrifice. There's no other way to explain the massive amount of suffering that happens in a city, or the bad actors that seek to exploit it. With enough demonic energy, you can shape the world as you will. Contracts. What was buried underneath Solomon's temple?

 

[Wodanaz]

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by the way I bully trannies on tf2 so I look like this

 

[Skylavijas]

by the way I bully trannies on tf2 so I look like this

How do you look uglier than a tranny as a straight man?

 

[Wodanaz]

How do you look uglier than a tranny as a straight man?

I play Soldier

 

[Skylavijas]

I play Soldier

Bullshit.



This is how Soldier mains actually look.

 

[Wodanaz]

Bullshit.

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This is how Soldier mains actually look.

I also play Scout

 

[Skylavijas]

TF2 and MLP both had this weird split where half of them went the way of the LGBTQIA++ and the other started looking at the black sun. What's that about?

Just keep in mind that countries with one of the highest consumption of MLP pornography were post-soviet states.


"Traditional Russian peoples"
"In theory" - "In Practice"

So when you interact with the average MLP or TF2 fan (as with most online fanbases), it could range from a femboy, living in Malmö, Sweden, with free Palestine watermelon emojis in their bio and anime girl pfp, or some bloke named Boban, living in a rural vilage within Republic Srpska, Bosnia, that turned to Orthodox Christianity to help with their porn addiction (it didn't work, they just proceeded to add ponies to monarchist propaganda and post them on 8chan).

Needless to say... regardless of where they are from, they are very much neurodivergent in some notable manner, but they do feel obligated to push the cultural and social norms from their part of the world unto literally everybody else. Why? Well, try remembering all the petty drama that has occurred within the TF2 community (should be easy enough, just go back a few pages within the thread if you need a refresher). Take a close look on how certain people really enjoy presenting their opinions on stuff like weapon balance changes as ultimate fact and dismissing anybody that disagrees with them as stupid. That is present within all nerd communities to some extent, but the thing is, these same exact nerds very frequently come to discuss politics as well, and bring the same exact 'sophistication' on the subject. They will discuss topics like immigration with the same exact passion and vitriol as on how to buff the sharpened volcano fragment. That is to say... they will turn any minor disagreement into a major rift. When you put these people together into one room, people with extreme personalities that naturally gravitate to extreme political ideas, and make them discuss politics... They will turn those rifts into their entire personality. And that's how you get Nazies and Trannies coexisting within the same fandom for show about ponies for little girls.

TLDR: It all starts with "Who is the best character? Rainbow Dash or Fluttershy?" and the autists will keep the subject going until they somehow end up discussing starving children in Yemen, with one coming to the conclusion that all muslim children should be executed, while the other that America must be overthrown with a proletarian dictatorship... I think you can easily guess who finds which pony as their favorite with that alone.

 

[Patryk Kornatowski]

Dude, I made a few TF2 SFM videos for my amusement before, I'll show off the more "intresting" ones

I made a few more but they don't really count as "intresting"

 

[Skylavijas]

Dude, I made a few TF2 SFM videos for my amusement before, I'll show off the more "intresting" ones

I made a few more but they don't really count as "intresting"

Oh no... I talked about autists so much, I ended up summoning one into the thread.

Sorry guys

 

[Wodanaz]

Dude, I made a few TF2 SFM videos for my amusement before, I'll show off the more "intresting" ones

I made a few more but they don't really count as "intresting"

good job. I think you should look to this man for inspiration

 

[COME ON OUT YOU RAPIST]

It all starts with "Who is the best character? Rainbow Dash or Fluttershy?" and the autists will keep the subject going until they somehow end up discussing starving children in Yemen, with one coming to the conclusion that all muslim children should be executed, while the other that America must be overthrown with a proletarian dictatorship... I think you can easily guess who finds which pony as their favorite with that alone.

My interactions with bronies is limited to TF2 and them trying to ruin one of my favorite internet animators, but I imagine bronyism is too reviled on the bigger internet for what you describe. It's like telling me furries reliably fall into bear or bird based on personal politics, and they have little civil wars over it. That just doesn't seem tenable when everyone else on the internet hates you.

 

[SoleniyKraut]

In the case of TF2, not caring about their stance feels like the right play.

The fact that 6v6 and even Highlander were popular way before official in-game acknowledgement in the form of competitive mode shows there were people who genuinely wanted to explore the format and found joy in tryharding/optimizing the game. There's nothing inherently wrong about this in itself.
Added bans to weapons perfectly fine in regular gameplay (and to some extent also mods that are legal on your average server), despite being controversial from the game's perspective, ultimately did nobody any harm, so long as it was the will of that niche community and it remained a rule within said niche.
Where they went wrong is with their inability to admit that... they are a niche. Majority of the playerbase would rather queue to some server and play with whoever they want, whatever class they want, however they want, etc. They aren't some untapped future community prospects until they themselves decide that they want to pursue this venue. Until they step their foot into 6v6 or HL or whatever competitive format you want to put here, they are playing a fundamentally different game - one that was there from the start.

Competitive scene for this game in itself wasn't a mistake, and most of the people playing competitively aren't to blame. It's the screeching insistence of the loud minority that their self-made format is what the game should be, which was directed at TF2 developers who, at that point of time, probably hardly resembled the original team who designed the game, meaning they had little tie to the original notions and design choices. That was what caused problems.

On top of that, now we live in a time where the chunk of players that hadn't experienced more casual-centered game that TF2 was in its glory years is not insignificant. Them not knowing what it was like before makes it hard for anyone to convince things used to be better.

If you had a successful game, where both casual players and more competitive ones had equally good time, you would end up using winrates, results and other statistical factors as your most unbiased possible source of information - DotA 2 is an example of this even now, though moreso back when IceFrog was taking care of the game.

Your whole sentiment is very sensible, it has also reminded me of a different term for Competetive's "niche" status - specialisation. Comp players specialize in specific roles, and treat changing them as disturbance to game flow (6v6 has specific class restrictions and guidelines, or a "meta" which most of them follow), while the actual game is more unpredictable and will require you to change classes depending on the situation.

I personally believe being able to adapt in an actual chaotic game of TF2 requires more skill to play with set roles - because set roles for each team makes you expect more of the same, with only difference being opponent skill.

The only type of competetitive I see as fun (Maybe) is Highlander, because it requires one of each class, which gives some gameplay diversity while still having one special restriction, aside from weapon bans.

Basically, compies just want to do the same thing over and over again, so they sperg out about weapon and map balance which does not cater to those specific needs.

 

[Hooked on phobics]

"You're dead, that's good, amen"

you died as you lived, a MENTALLY ILL MAN!!!

 

[NvII iS 8ulLt f0R 88C]

Dude, I made a few TF2 SFM videos for my amusement before, I'll show off the more "intresting" ones

I made a few more but they don't really count as "intresting"

The third one made me laugh, excellent stuff.

 

[GI Robot]

Just keep in mind that countries with one of the highest consumption of MLP pornography were post-soviet states.

reminder that there's a fucking cult in russia over some disney furry rat girl, there is some crazy shit that goes down in post soviet lands. best if we just collectively nuked that region of the world.

 

[Solaire of Austria]

Dude how bad was that TF2 match?

Trying to play spy when the enemy team has an obvious faggot with ESP and they do nothing about it really makes you want to kill. Generally other people, if you're healthy.

 

[TrainWreckWatcher]

Jokes aside, I think it's very tragic. I hope that more and more people realize transgenderism is a death cult. It's really sad to see what's being done to boys.

women too.
Its turning tomboys into pooners.

TF2 and MLP both had this weird split where half of them went the way of the LGBTQIA++ and the other started looking at the black sun. What's that about?
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Society has failed young men by providing them zero purpose or way to actually find meaning so they turn to extremes online in hopes of feeling a part of something bigger.
We've gotten rid of God and replaced it with a void.

 

[Skylavijas]

reminder that there's a fucking cult in russia over some disney furry rat girl, there is some crazy shit that goes down in post soviet lands. best if we just collectively nuked that region of the world.

*was

They went on a meltdown after realizing that the new chip and dale movie had the rat girl have babies with a fly. Not sure if they've ever recovered from that... also, with all the weird shit that is documented of people within the west doing on this website alone, I'm wondering if there is a single part of the world not worth nuking by that metric.

We've gotten rid of God and replaced it with a void.

Worse. If you're a blank slate, at least you'll be actively pursuing or reflecting on meaning. But if you're stuck in a state of "consume product, get excited for a new product" or "wake up, go to work, come back home to sleep so you could wake up for work again" then your brain is so drowned out by noise and bad habits that you don't even have the opportunity to reflect on meaning. Society is supposed to make men unsatisfied, that's not a bug, that's a feature. It can be used to prompt them to sign up for the military to die for oil and mineral companies, or market a bunch of eyesore virtual cosmetics as something as a way to make yourself seem more important. Human society can't function without a sufficient amount of hamster wheels running. Serfs and slaves may be gone, but the demand for that kind of labor isn't - thus wagies and sweatshops.

 

[Patrick Bait-man]

Comp players specialize in specific roles, and treat changing them as disturbance to game flow (6v6 has specific class restrictions and guidelines, or a "meta" which most of them follow), while the actual game is more unpredictable and will require you to change classes depending on the situation.