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Property tax has been a thing for ages. Even before that, Eminent Domain let the government sieze your land if it really wanted to. You own the land, but you better pay Uncle Sam his due.
Also if the government ever offers you a lump sum for your property don't be a fucking idiot, take it ASAP because they won't ask a second time, they'll seize it and you'll be fucked because the fed has infinity lawyers.
 
I just learnt about property taxes.
No state is exempt from them, and if you own land or property you have to pay something like 2.5% annual tax on it (determined by market value) or else it gets foreclosed on by the government. It might be a pedantic interpretation and so the question itself might be dumb, but doesn't that mean no American actually owns their own land/property, since property tax acts essentially like "rent" to the government that you must pay?
Somewhere, An Anarcho-Capitalist just got his wings.
 
a pussy hat protest that's performative vs shutting down iran during a drought and energy crisis

it's hard to rebel against a theocratic dictatorship but iranians are doing it.

it's really dumb of you to assume that protests mean the same thing in the US vs iran
Iran has mass protests every ten years or so. It changes nothing about their government. They allow them as a release valve and so they can round up and execute any college students who might later be able to cause actual trouble (leadership remembers how they came to power).

Any one remember the Green Movement uprisings during the Arab Spring, funded by the Obama admin? Mass protests all over the county, including Tehran. Nothing changed for Iran. Tehran_protest_(1).webp
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a pussy hat protest that's performative vs shutting down iran during a drought and energy crisis

it's hard to rebel against a theocratic dictatorship but iranians are doing it.

it's really dumb of you to assume that protests mean the same thing in the US vs iran
Awesome. Good for them. Why should we get involved in an internal matter? If they win they win. If they lose they lose.
 
I just learnt about property taxes.
No state is exempt from them, and if you own land or property you have to pay something like 2.5% annual tax on it (determined by market value) or else it gets foreclosed on by the government. It might be a pedantic interpretation and so the question itself might be dumb, but doesn't that mean no American actually owns their own land/property, since property tax acts essentially like "rent" to the government that you must pay?
Wait until you learn "National land taxes" were emergency powers the nation only used 5 times in its first 100 or so years
1748564232559.webpSame with Income Tax, notice that 1861 year again, funny thing was going on that year...
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then in 1916 Congress passed this fucking gem
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Never fails to make me sick to my stomach reading just how draconian the 16th is, its just... wow. we should be really embarrassed this is the "Law of the land" in the land of the brave home of the "free"(to be taxed)

Then you get to realize the term INCOME is never defined in the Internal Revenue Code, they just never got around to it, funny how that works
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Alot of yapping to end on "Income derived from any source" wow uncle sam, very cool, so that means income tax can mean interest rent or sale of land? So what the hell is Land tax is the income from the land is ALSO taxed?

Its turtles all the way down.
 
And picking a sassy fat bitch to deliver the message is just hilariously tonedeaf. You have plenty of hot blonde starlets and singers who are shitlibs. Get one of them in front of the camera. Have them dress up like a fifties housewife and feed into the fantasy of a union job and affordable houses. Don't have some landwhale winge about how you'll pay someone to talk to them about their feelings. Does no one there understand marketing, or does the spite run so deep that they'd rather choose political extinction?
Oh, she's more than a sassy fat bitch. According to Wikipedia:
She identifies as a "queer, plus-size, disabled Latina" and is a fourth-generation Texan of Mexican-American descent.
This is what I was talking about earlier regarding Tejanos turning into communist faggots. Who the fuck "identifies" as plus-size? You don't need to identify as fat. The hills have eyes. You are observed. Also, "Olivia Julianna" isn't even her full name. From Wikipedia:
For safety reasons, she publicly uses her first and middle names.
In other words: either she is completely astroturfed or her parents are fucking scumbags.
 
ICE just did a massive illegal migrant bust on a construction site in Tallahassee, Florida:
Excellent. More of these, across the whole country, please.

And a full audit of every firm connected to that construction site, and criminal and civil charges against everyone who knew, or reasonably should have known.
 
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Its turtles all the way down.
Thank you (and everyone else) for the info. I was genuinely surprised when I discovered what it actually entailed. I read this story about a guy whose family home had been sold under their noses by the local government (in Texas of all places) without a letter of foreclosure.
What’s worse, the demolition happened shortly after their brother Charles, who had been living in the home, moved out due to repeated calls and letters warning of tax issues. Months later, the Alexanders discovered a new duplex foundation had been poured on the land that they own.

Developer claims property was 'foreclosed' on​

While different members of the Alexander family have lived in the house for decades, the family as a whole fell behind on property taxes.
"I kept getting letters and things like that — phone calls saying that we were behind on taxes and we had to leave, so that's why my brother [Charles] left. And immediately after, that house was torn down," said Kelly Alexander.
A part of me thought "no shit, you didn't pay so they took it away", but when I realised what it was they didn't pay, I was in disbelief. I think positively of America (free speech, guns, portion sizes, and Elvis Presley) so this "tax" being a thing at all hit me like Paris syndrome hits an Asian tourist.

It's without a doubt one of the most tyrannical things (alongside Homeowner's Associations) that exists within the USA. Homeownership/landownership is sacrosanct to me and if your home can be taken from you after you've bought it, or worse: after your great-great-great grandparents bought it — that's tantamount to having never owned it to begin with. I've never been a "all taxation is theft"-sort, but this is the blatant theft there is. If you generate zero income and keep expenses to a minimum (or zero depending on how self-sustainable you are), but are still expected to pay for the privilege of living on that parcel of land, then what's the point of ever having bought the house to begin with? Its existence likely impacts renters too since the tax is no-doubt dispersed over annual rent.

We have eminent domain in the UK as well (this story is the reason I went down this rabbit hole to begin with) but you could (in theory) live a life entirely on amassed savings in your own home generating zero income without ever sending a penny directly to the government again. My government is tyrannical since it limits people by pre-empting a potential nuisance (no guns, no "inciting" speech, etcetera) but property taxes prevent you from living a life free of being a nuisance from anyone.

We all have our own government tyrannies to bear.
 
I read this story about a guy whose family home had been sold under their noses by the local government (in Texas of all places) without a letter of foreclosure.
I think you need to read the story again. The local government had nothing to do with the family's house being demolished. Though they owed $15,000 in back taxes the property hadn't been foreclosed on. The guilty party is the shady local developer, who tried to usurp the family's rights.
It's without a doubt one of the most tyrannical things (alongside Homeowner's Associations) that exists within the USA.
Yes and no. You have to understand that in the US, property tax is a local thing, and is paid to local (city or town) government. A significant portion of local government budgets are paid for by property taxes; property taxes typically go toward the operation of public schools, police and fire departments, the maintenance of roads, etc. The people who own property in the town are the beneficiaries of a safe, functional, and prosperous town - this isn't tyranny.
 
So the Dems fired Harry Sissons and hired this fat bitch to be the new frat boy whisperer.

Man she could drop 100 pounds and she still wont be able to convince anybody to vote blue.
That's the thing, she was around at the same time Sisson was. They fired the faggot but kept this whale on board.
 
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