Culture Are you clean?” should be banned from Grindr – and we all have a role in making it happen - As I Kissed a Boy’s Adam shares his experience of dating living with HIV, it’s time to take on the stigma.

This series of I Kissed a Boy is more fun and sexy than ever, but also the bravest yet in spotlighting the issues our community faces. It’s a sun-soaked fantasy, where there is always a handsome housekeeper round the corner, a Minogue on tap and a secret garden for a not-so-secret tryst, but at its heart, it’s all about people’s very real lives.

We have watched with joy at contestant Lars opening up about life as a gay trans man (and subsequently with horror at some of the transphobic responses). Now, in the latest episode, Adam, marketing manager from Reading, shared with the other contestants that he was living with HIV. All dating requires vulnerability, but stigma around HIV adds jeopardy when telling anyone, let alone potential partners. The other boys called him ‘brave’ – it shouldn’t be so, but when you consider only one-in-eight people living with HIV has told most friends and family, you see it really is something to tell the whole country on a BBC television show.

In a moving moment, Adam spoke about how his medication means he lives a healthy life, and that by taking one pill a day he can be sure he won’t pass it on during sex. Terrence Higgins Trust is loud and proud about how HIV has changed and the latest science. We’ve just launched a new and sexy campaign in Brighton, which shares the message that people living with HIV on treatment can’t pass it on during sex. With public support, we hope we can take it national.

In Dannii Minogue’s dating villa, Adam shares his journey to understanding what it means to live with HIV and, most poignantly, the persistent stigma he faces, particularly on dating apps.

“Are you clean?” is a phrase familiar to anyone who uses Grindr. It’s used to ask about someone’s sexual health, but more specifically about their HIV status. It’s a phrase that is so casually cruel. As Adam puts it on the show, “Does that make me dirty because I have HIV?”

Adam’s experience speaks to the heart of how we connect as a community. For a huge number of us, dating and hook-up apps are a key part of how we meet people, express our sexuality and form relationships. They should be space for fun and for pleasure – and for most of us, they are. We don’t talk enough about how they can be space that perpetuate stigma and trauma for people living with HIV. And often racism, transphobia and body-shaming too.

So, to those who still don’t quite get it, let me spell it out: having HIV does not make someone dirty. Our community has borne the significant burden of HIV, and homophobia and HIV stigma are close cousins. When we let this cruel language persist, we harm people living with HIV, but we also harm our whole community.

This is just the tip of the iceberg of the stigma that people with HIV too often face on dating apps. At the height of It’s a Sin mania, Luke Kelly told his friends and everyone on Instagram he was living with HIV. The response was amazing. Days later he included his HIV status on his Grindr profile, thinking that the positivity would continue. Within three days, this handsome man who had done many a modelling gig, had changed it back because of the scale and relentlessness of the abuse he received.

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Dating and hook-up apps need to step up and act now. They need to update their community guidelines to specifically prohibit phrases like “Are you clean?”, the apps should educate their users on why they’re making this change and repeat offenders should be banned.

But a technology fix alone won’t cut it: this is about how we treat each other. We – the users of those apps – also need to reflect. If you, like me, got teary on your sofa watching Adam talk about what he has been through, or if you think of yourself as an ally to people living with HIV, then be the change you want to see.

It is obviously legitimate to ask about how people protect their sexual health and potentially yours. Check if they have tested recently and know their status. Legit to ask if they use condoms, and if not, are they on PrEP or HIV medication. It’s good to lead with your recent test date and prevention tool of choice, but not “Are you clean”.

If someone asks you the dreaded question or has other stigmatising language about HIV in their profile, challenge them. And if they don’t change it? Block them, report them, move on.

Adam was greeted with love and understanding when he shared his status in the masseria. Every person living with HIV deserves the same. As a community, we need to step up to make that happen. One kiss at time.

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It is obviously legitimate to ask about how people protect their sexual health and potentially yours. Check if they have tested recently and know their status. Legit to ask if they use condoms, and if not, are they on PrEP or HIV medication. It’s good to lead with your recent test date and prevention tool of choice, but not “Are you clean”.
Fuck off.
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I want to see the face of the hot guy I want to fuck, not some wall of text.
 
“Does that make me dirty because I have HIV?”

YES, YES IT DOES.

If you have smelly armpits you can just wash your armpits. If you work as a plumber or an auto mechanic you might have dirt that’s harder to get off, but it’s a badge of honor from a tough job and not dangerous.

Being literally DISEASED, INCURABLY DISEASE is the most “dirty” someone can possibly get.
 
We’ve just launched a new and sexy campaign in Brighton, which shares the message that people living with HIV on treatment can’t pass it on during sex
Horseshit. Going to claim it can't be passed on by needle too? Wanna prove it by sticking yourself with a contaminated needle from one of these people? Didn't think so

Dating and hook-up apps need to step up and act now. They need to update their community guidelines to specifically prohibit phrases like “Are you clean?”, the apps should educate their users on why they’re making this change and repeat offenders should be banned.
No company will ever do this because it would inevitably end with them getting sued into oblivion, and very likely facing criminal charges for public endangerment and violating health and safety requirements for service providers

Just wait until somebody catches HIV from some degenerate on one of these sites and starts publicly pointing out how it only happened because the site threatened to ban the victim for asking people if they were clean and HIV free and thus they were deliberately putting users in danger

The instant any site tries to tell people they aren't allowed to ask if somebody is clean they're going to get sued
 
We’ve just launched a new and sexy campaign in Brighton,
Fag porn in public.
which shares the message that people living with HIV on treatment can’t pass it on during sex.
This will kill fags, not that I mind.

Adam was greeted with love and understanding when he shared his status in the masseria.
> shared his status

(I hate when the word "shared" is used to mean "sent" or "published" or "announced", it implies it's an act of charity toward the victims, wanted and asked for, when it's nothing of the sort. And, depending on what's "shared", it can get worse, like here.)
 
Our community has borne the significant burden of HIV, and homophobia and HIV stigma are close cousins.
OH, I DON'T KNOW, MIGHT BE BECAUSE FAGGOTS SPREAD AIDS? THAT THERE'S A FUCKING SUBCULTURE OF FAGGOTS TRYING TO CATCH STDS LIKE POKEMON AND ANOTHER SUBCULTURE OF TRYING TO SPREAD IT TO EVERY FUCKING PERSON THEY SEE LIKE A GODDAMN ZOMBIE?

The instant any site tries to tell people they aren't allowed to ask if somebody is clean they're going to get sued
I remember right, the blight that is known as California protects infecting against consent. I could be wrong or misremembering though.
 
I remember right, the blight that is known as California protects infecting against consent. I could be wrong or misremembering though.
But does not allow anyone, under any circumstances to threaten to withhold services or ban you for asking if someone has a dangerous communicable disease. Nor can it. That would violate quite a few laws and again would be an open invitation to sue them into oblivion. Its also crossing well into coercion territory
 
YES, YES IT DOES.

If you have smelly armpits you can just wash your armpits. If you work as a plumber or an auto mechanic you might have dirt that’s harder to get off, but it’s a badge of honor from a tough job and not dangerous.

Being literally DISEASED, INCURABLY DISEASE is the most “dirty” someone can possibly get.
In more civilized times, people with incurable diseases found new life and purpose fighting for their society and God.


But no glorious redemption awaits these people. No. They are taught that their affliction is a point of pride, and that they should be freed to pass it to others unwittingly.
 
In a moving moment, Adam spoke about how his medication means he lives a healthy life, and that by taking one pill a day he can be sure he won’t pass it on during sex.

But somehow Adam himself got it from sex with someone else.

It is obviously legitimate to ask about how people protect their sexual health and potentially yours. Check if they have tested recently and know their status. Legit to ask if they use condoms, and if not, are they on PrEP or HIV medication. It’s good to lead with your recent test date and prevention tool of choice, but not “Are you clean”.

Yeah. I guess you can do anything but turn down sex with someone who has HIV. Because that is HIV stigma.
 
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