Plagued Lolicon/Shotacon Defense Force - The people who jerk off to cartoon children and won't ever shut up about it

[Prophetic Spirit]

Not necessarily made with them in mind, but I was more thinking along the lines of how there's plenty anime where women are strong, sometimes without male characters even present, without explicit male fanservice and I can see feminists feeling empowered watching those types of shows. I'd be more shocked if they didn't.

Is that so?
How you can feel power seeing...
What the actual fuck, man.

 

[Qui-Gon's Gin]

I do wanna ask the thread a question, a lot of lolicon fags seem to outright fetishize asian girls, but it leads me to ask, when does a ethnic preference turn into a creepy fetish? like a lot of these weebs and lolicon niglets go on about how "submissive" asian women are. And with these people, do they not see marriage as a union of equals (at least that's how my christian grandparents raised me to believe that). or is it they just want a glorified sex slave to fufill their perverted fantasies?

They fetishize Asian women because they see them as more childlike and controllable. Everything these people do is in service of their desire to rape children.

 

[Berrakh]

I do wanna ask the thread a question, a lot of lolicon fags seem to outright fetishize asian girls, but it leads me to ask, when does a ethnic preference turn into a creepy fetish? like a lot of these weebs and lolicon niglets go on about how "submissive" asian women are. And with these people, do they not see marriage as a union of equals (at least that's how my christian grandparents raised me to believe that). or is it they just want a glorified sex slave to fufill their perverted fantasies?

I think you answered your own questions. And noticed that they don’t see moral positions as bigger than their own convenience or satisfaction. IE asian women are good because they’ll have to accept these whims and vices, maybe with a patina of argument about body counts and divorce rates but nobody buys that as the real reason.

What is understated there is how self-ID’d yellow fuckers and pedos don’t just coincidentally make the same arguments but are in fact the same people. Which also counters the idea they push that their opinions are natural but buried under mass defensiveness. Another false but typical claim is that every man is secretly like this but, uh, “feminism” or something.

 

[hetafan]

So i remember when the Reddit lies account on twitter Made a post criticicizing lolicons and suddenly loligooners started attacking him for that and i was just so surprised that right wingers could attack each other just for Lolicon.

But i do like wonder if right wing lolicons exist does that mean that right wing fujos could be a thing?

 

[Outer Space Traveller]

Not truly something lolicon related, but something worthwhile getting your attention:

4cuckxistas are encrypting porn onto Youtube so they can be diddy ahh bluds at work or some shit idk. Sharty Thread, Archive
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Spoiler: Xer Hentai

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[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

Not necessarily made with them in mind, but I was more thinking along the lines of how there's plenty anime where women are strong, sometimes without male characters even present, without explicit male fanservice and I can see feminists feeling empowered watching those types of shows. I'd be more shocked if they didn't.

I see. I suppose that could be the case.

Not truly something lolicon related, but something worthwhile getting your attention:

What's even the point of doing that?

 

[Outer Space Traveller]

I see. I suppose that could be the case.


What's even the point of doing that?

Some lolitroon may spam the usage of tranime or hentai with it. I can feel it.

 

[Skylavijas]

There's feminist anime...? I'm morbidly curious now

I'd argue that Neon Genesis Evangelion, the show that more or less has come to define what modern anime would become, would hold very strong appeal with feminists. The male protagonist is an utter wimp throughout the entire show, getting bossed around by his female captain and other female pilots, all of which are more assertive and aggressive than the entire male cast. Not only that, but all the human villains within the show are all exclusively men, that are egomaniacs that pursue an extremely delusional conception of a utopia.

I was surprised to realize how many people found Asuka to be their favorite character, when to me she felt almost like a walking stereotype. Legit, it's as if they took every single conceivable negative quality from a woman and put it into a single character... but tons of people seem to relate to that?

 

[Berrakh]

I was surprised to realize how many people found Asuka to be their favorite character, when to me she felt almost like a walking stereotype. Legit, it's as if they took every single conceivable negative quality from a woman and put it into a single character... but tons of people seem to relate to that?

“I would never let Asuka act like that around m— okay mom I’ll be down for dinner soon.”

Using fictional characters to affect a masculine image is very middle school.

 

[Binary-Tyrant]

I'm tired of lolifags on both sides but the libshits are often the ones making the argument of "the effort should be spent protecting real children" and "why are you protecting drawings". I saw some faggot repeatedly end their posts with diatribes basically saying "As a CSA victim loli shouldn't be banned". The right wingers on the other hand, unsurprisingly, always make the lolbert argument of muh free speech and muh pixels aren't children beyond which they got nothing. One argument I've heard from boths sides is the "then video games must also cause violence" argument. But overall Reddit-tier shitlibs are easier to turn against lolicon, just tell them neonazis like it.

How did we end up with such a huge online presence of coomers cooming to drawings of children anyway? I mean it doesn't make sense. Because obviously a lot of these people aren't clinical pedophiles and just see children as easy targets or 'taboo' or just as another outlet for their degeneracy when the tentacle hentai rape stops being stimulating.

How did we even get to this point that there's so many pornbrained adults on the internet jerking it to children that they can publicly defend their behavior?

 

[Fat At The Internet]

As a CSA victim loli shouldn't be banned

Which begs the question on the rationale. As a child abuse victim are they saying it will keep the predators at bay? or it will improve their technique? Where is the life experience coming into play here?
If you want to be savage, you can point out that child abuse victims have a higher likelihood to abuse later in life and their views are compromised.

lolbert argument of muh free speech and muh pixels aren't children beyond which they got nothing

Immanent calls to violence are also free speech. It's banned because of causality of the next guy over that can't take a joke.

then video games must also cause violence

They glorify violence but don't necessarily perpetuate it. Parallel to that is an implicit acknowledgement that lolicon glorifies pedophilia but does not necessarily exacerbate crime figures. That's a step up in reaching a common ground assuming the comparison is not walked back immediately.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

One argument I've heard from boths sides is the "then video games must also cause violence" argument.

No one jacks off to violent videogames or movies, but if they did, those who want to ban them would be 100% justified in doing so then.

 

[Arthur_Schopenhauer]

I'd argue that Neon Genesis Evangelion, the show that more or less has come to define what modern anime would become, would hold very strong appeal with feminists. The male protagonist is an utter wimp throughout the entire show, getting bossed around by his female captain and other female pilots, all of which are more assertive and aggressive than the entire male cast. Not only that, but all the human villains within the show are all exclusively men, that are egomaniacs that pursue an extremely delusional conception of a utopia.

I was surprised to realize how many people found Asuka to be their favorite character, when to me she felt almost like a walking stereotype. Legit, it's as if they took every single conceivable negative quality from a woman and put it into a single character... but tons of people seem to relate to that?

Sorry brother but i had to disagree with you on a detail.
People don't like asuka because of her negative qualities.
People like asuka because according to the lore she was a victim of her narc mother and lacked any kind of true friends or positive parental figure. That made her a insecure person who does not know how relationships work unless it's about receiving praise for projecting a positive image and anything outside that does not have meaning. That means she is always putting a lot of pressure in order to compete against anyone in everything and anybody who surpass her is automatically an enemy, that also means she treats those she considers below her as trash for being weaker but tries to worship those she considers above her (there is a creepy scene where she reveals she is in ""love"" with her supervisor kaji (aka watermelon guy) because she considers him a superior (i mean he is a cool dude on the outside)) A major point on the series is that characters that don't act according to her vision of the world (rei is a massive sperg so she does not respond to her nor cares about her way of seeing relations and shinji is a faggot that does not inmediately worship and simp for her but is also a good mecha pilot so that makes her buttmad at shinji and eventually makes her have a breakdown)

TLDR: people sympathize asuka because they see her with good reason as a broken girl, nobody with enough neurons to don't shit their pants would like to have a life like asuka's one. It's like seeing guts from berserk and saying: wooaaah i would like to suffer as he did because i would become a good fighter.
Also rei besto waifu

Sorry for the autism brother.

 

[Gravemind]

I remain surprised that the mods haven't come in and bitched everyone out yet again for going so flagrantly off-topic with recent discussions ITT.

Yes, I'm being a little petty because we've gotten yelled at and threatened with bans for the exact same discussions before.

 

[FuluFuckwit]

Did a cursory read of that Russell guys book. Shit's fucked, and the fact the Japs openly went out and decided "Hmm yes we absolutely have to have a subculture around this!" makes me incredibly violent. It reads like it's romanticized to hell and back. Some of it is less fucked, horny teenagers gonna horny (They really shouldn't be encouraged to act on their desires at an early age and the right thing to do is to deny their advances until they're adults and ready to have a family) , but the rest of it is just fucking disgusting.
Very rarely is a victim called a victim, instead they're called fucking "Lolita", even when they're getting their heads caved in with hammers and clearly the victims of one sided repeated rape.

Observe the laws and the age of consent you stupid niggers. Stop jerking it to children (drawn or otherwise) being raped, groomed, and abused.

 

[Skylavijas]

People like asuka because according to the lore she was a victim of her narc mother and lacked any kind of true friends or positive parental figure.

Like I said, it's as if somebody took every single negative quality a woman could possibly have and put it into one character.

I don't actually hate her for it though, I like the fact that she isn't a Mary Sue and that all of her flaws aren't just cosmetic quirks, they're real. To this day most western and even Japanese media don't know how to do that type of character right.

Also rei besto waifu

This is quite literally the worst possible thread to say this

I remain surprised that the mods haven't come in and bitched everyone out yet again for going so flagrantly off-topic with recent discussions ITT.

Yes, I'm being a little petty because we've gotten yelled at and threatened with bans for the exact same discussions before.

Evangelion is a show whose main cast of characters were all middle schoolers, yet they get put in sexualized situations or positions. Sure, there is no full frontal nudity (most of the time), but considering how these moments would end up inspiring numerous negative tropes within anime, that is one vantablack mark against the show, I otherwise enjoy.

Particularly since for a very long time there were rumors floating around that some of the animators from Gainax would come together to work on a pornographic OVA, featuring the underage characters. The rumors remain unconfirmed, whether or not it was official or fanfiction or something in-between, but it does make me approach the show with caution. The video bellow is the first one I managed to find discussing the topic.

 

[Großmann]

I remain surprised that the mods haven't come in and bitched everyone out yet again for going so flagrantly off-topic with recent discussions ITT.

Yes, I'm being a little petty because we've gotten yelled at and threatened with bans for the exact same discussions before.

That only happened because the thread had a feature that drew a bunch of politispergs and actual lolifags, which naturally drew mods into the thread that didn’t realize that light political discussion had been happening in the thread since before they showed up (I caught a thread ban for making an on-topic observation that happened to also be about the Texas law the time).

 

[Binary-Tyrant]

Which begs the question on the rationale. As a child abuse victim are they saying it will keep the predators at bay? or it will improve their technique? Where is the life experience coming into play here?
If you want to be savage, you can point out that child abuse victims have a higher likelihood to abuse later in life and their views are compromised.

Well I went through the pain of going through my history and various reddit threads to find the user. Seems like whatever troon it is, they like to use the "as a victim" a lot. I remember leaving reddit back in the day partly because of these types defending loli on r/anime (made me avoid interacting with internet weebs since which was a good thing).

I wouldn't have normally bothered going through a redditor account but man this is a freak. Self described 25 year old "woman" but almost certainly a troon. And knows way too much about loli porn

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Evangelion is a show whose main cast of characters were all middle schoolers, yet they get put in sexualized situations or positions. Sure, there is no full frontal nudity (most of the time), but considering how these moments would end up inspiring numerous negative tropes within anime, that is one vantablack mark against the show, I otherwise enjoy.

Your typical coming-of-age story will have their teenage characters discovering their sexuality, now put it in Japan where they're a bit more lax on how it gets portrayed because it's considered healthy for boys to be horndogs for girls. "Boys will be boys" mentality and all that. It stands out for a Japanese production simply because it's a psychological character study and it shows how sex affects these characters who haven't yet figured shit out for themselves to begin with. Asuka's crush on Kaji definitely stems from her trauma much like Misato's was, except Misato's promiscuity is played out differently from Asuka's feeble attempts to be "promiscuous" and it's not necessarily a generational gap (like how the sex lives of Gen X and Millennials/Z are compared and contrasted in determining which generation(s) are having a lot of sex).

Otaku just took their obsessions a step further with the sexualization because they're broken people themselves and either ignored or didn't notice that the portrayal of sexuality was a lot more consequential than to be expected in a coming-of-age show.

Particularly since for a very long time there were rumors floating around that some of the animators from Gainax would come together to work on a pornographic OVA, featuring the underage characters. The rumors remain unconfirmed, whether or not it was official or fanfiction or something in-between, but it does make me approach the show with caution. The video bellow is the first one I managed to find discussing the topic.

There's a part two lol.

Will need to check these videos out, there's sometimes interesting animation history involving these, especially if it's revolved around Evangelion. Really and truly will not surprise me if some Gainax animators were involved given the studio was literally founded by otaku who totally made their own doujinshis and such for the hell of it.

 

[Skylavijas]

or didn't notice that the portrayal of sexuality was a lot more consequential than to be expected in a coming-of-age show.

Not always I say. Asuka flirting with Kaji was whatever, particularly since Kaji is consistently portrayed as a horndog, that wants to bang anything that has two legs and a hole between their legs, so the fact that he so nonchalantly rejects a girl that practically throws herself at him, and proceeds to tell her how she's too young for this shit, that makes the scene come across as endearing... but that's not the case with the whole show.

I remember various weird scenes like Gendo groping Rei's boob as part of triggering the instrumentality project, or camera shots of Asuka sleeping that explicitly center on her butt, or Misato inviting Shinji on a date in episode 1, despite clearly being way older than him... all the stuff that was like "Did we really need this? Did we benefit as a community from needing to see that? Would this destroy the narrative if it was slightly rewritten to not be so... freaky?". Like that hospital scene with Shinji is literally the only reason I don't use Shinji as my pfp anywhere, because I'm afraid that normal people would see me as a freak, and freaks would think that I am one of them.

And it's even worse with the reboot movies. Moments that made me go "what the actual fuck were they thinking!?".