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[Legalize Asbestos]

after it managed to get a gay wedding in a children's show.

They topped that in Future by having Steven fuse with his dad after spending years establishing that fusion is an allegory for sex.

 

[Legalize Asbestos]

than the people you're railing against.

Nigger you are straight up hallucinating right now. Change your pfp because you are complete ass at deduction.

 

[Niggerphobe]

How stupid are dana and Rebecca to think they can put gay stuff in tv shows without it being cut out

 

[Grand Duke Snowfall]

With She-Ra I just always think about how the title character gets with the girl who’s repeatedly beaten up, tortured, and tried to kill her (clawed her and jumped on her stomach when they were kids too), and tried to destroy reality just to spite her, condemning her friend’s mom to death if not a fate worse than it. And then they had a butt ugly nonbinary child in supplementary material, somehow.

 

[Gorillion others]

With She-Ra I just always think about how the title character gets with the girl who’s repeatedly beaten up, tortured, and tried to kill her (clawed her and jumped on her stomach when they were kids too), and tried to destroy reality just to spite her, condemning her friend’s mom to death if not a fate worse than it. And then they had a butt ugly nonbinary child in supplementary material, somehow.

Shockingly enough, it never once made it to the top ten. Never. Nimona was also snubbed at the Oscar's.

 

[Colon capital V]

How come there's hardly any story plots involving parents fighting and how that might affect how a kid will feel? There's always episodes about war, terrorism, assassinations, but not much about traumatic events in a household.
>inb4 "anon I don't think a kid dealing with rough shit would want to be reminded about it watching their favorite 'toons to escape".

 

[YWNBAM]

I just watched the trailer for K-Pop Demon Hunters, and I was surprised to find myself genuinely excited for its release. I haven't felt this way about an animated film in at least ten years.

It reminded me a lot of the "secret identity" girl shows of the 2000s, without any of the usual smug, liberal feminist deconstruction or cynicism, unless the trailer just did a good job of hiding it. Seeing the trio of girls being silly and crushing on demon boys made my heart ache a little, though. These days, most creative types seethe at the mere mention of girls being interested in romance or boys, as if it's not a natural and relatable part of most tween girls' lives as they grow up. I'd rather have them watch older stuff like 90s' Sailor Moon where girls constantly talk about handsome guys and get into wacky situations than the gross lifeless faggot fests like NuShe-ra or Hazbin Hotel.

Back then, gushing about opposite sex was the only thing women were allowed to have; now, it's the opposite. It's gone from one radical idea to another with no in-between or compromise. Hopefully, Kpop Demon Hunters will mark the beginning of a new era of female-led cartoons for girls, like Totally Spies, but without gross fetish content aimed at old perverted men. Just girl friendship, adventures, and cute boys to beat the shit out of uwu

 

[Arbiter]

Recently, I’ve been getting shorts from Star Vs. Never watched the show except for a couple of episodes, not really my cup of tea. I only know that it has one of the worst tv show endings ever. /co might say otherwise but is it even worth watching?

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In my opinion, no. I saw every episode a it was airing, same with Steven Universe, and I feel the same way about both. Frustrating wastes of potential. Star Vs. peaked at the Blood Moon Ball. SU peaked at Stronger Than You (Future was good too).

 

[Coolio55]

How come there's hardly any story plots involving parents fighting and how that might affect how a kid will feel? There's always episodes about war, terrorism, assassinations, but not much about traumatic events in a household.
>inb4 "anon I don't think a kid dealing with rough shit would want to be reminded about it watching their favorite 'toons to escape".

Panpizza and Maxwell Atoms have both mentioned this: apparently "martial issues" is a huge bugbear for TV execs. Even showing divorced parents on TV is apparently a huge taboo.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Panpizza and Maxwell Atoms have both mentioned this: apparently "martial issues" is a huge bugbear for TV execs. Even showing divorced parents on TV is apparently a huge taboo.

Which is interesting because I swear we've been seeing divorced parents in children's cartoons and live-action since the '90s (maybe there was one from the '80s).

 

[Grand Duke Snowfall]

Which is interesting because I swear we've been seeing divorced parents in children's cartoons and live-action since the '90s (maybe there was one from the '80s).

The only one I can remember off the top of my head is seeing a clip of The Ghost and Molly McGee where one character visits her father, who cared more about his work than actually being there. And the Van Houtens, but The Simpsons isn’t exactly a children’s cartoon, even if a lot of kids do watch it.

 

[Sneak 'n' Snore]

Which is interesting because I swear we've been seeing divorced parents in children's cartoons and live-action since the '90s (maybe there was one from the '80s).

The only divorced parent in a kids show I could think of is the mom in Hotel Zack & Cody.
Otherwise there are couple other shows with single parents like Goofy in Goof Troop or Ash's mom in Pokemon but its never directly mentioned what happened with their partners (at least as far as I know).

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Off the top of my head:

In Arthur, Buster's parents are divorced (I think they had an episode about it).
Pepper Ann's parents are divorced.
Digimon: Matt and T.K.'s parents are divorced.
Yu-Gi-Oh!: Joey Wheeler and Serenity's parents are divorced (dub didn't shy from it, but didn't mention the dad's alcoholism).
Rugrats: Kimi's biological parents are divorced. Think there was also an episode where one of the parents (might've been Angelica's) had such a fight a big fear was they were going to separate.
Batman Beyond: Terry lived with his dad until he was murdered, and had to move back in with his mom.
Phineas & Ferb: The titular characters' parents suggest a divorce or they're widowed; regardless, it's rare for there to be parents on their second marriage in a cartoon. And then there's Doofenshmirtz and his ex.

 

[Cave Fisher]

They topped that in Future by having Steven fuse with his dad after spending years establishing that fusion is an allegory for sex.

It's funny that Twitter users still try to deny fusion is CLEARLY a sex metaphor while simultaneously claiming Peridot is asexual for not wanting to fuse.
It can't be multiple different allegories when you had Garnet and Amethyst doing this shit that even the show has Pearl cover Steven's eyes from.

 

[McMitch]

Unpopular Opinion: Foster’s Home for Imaginary Friends sucked. It’s best episodes are low energy snoozes at best and completely forgettable in their entirety, with the exception of when the writing is so bad it pisses off the intended audience. It owes its art style to Samurai Jack and was a massive misstep considering the other things McCracken worked on.

 

[ShiftyBoi]

Panpizza and Maxwell Atoms have both mentioned this: apparently "martial issues" is a huge bugbear for TV execs. Even showing divorced parents on TV is apparently a huge taboo.

Yeah sesame street had this problem with the "Snuffy's parents get a divorce" episode which the studio banned from ever being aired because they thought it would be too much for Kids with divorced parents. Or it might make kids worry that their parents arguing would mean they're going to get divorced.

It's funny that Twitter users still try to deny fusion is CLEARLY a sex metaphor while simultaneously claiming Peridot is asexual for not wanting to fuse.
It can't be multiple different allegories when you had Garnet and Amethyst doing this shit that even the show has Pearl cover Steven's eyes from.
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I think they pushed the metaphor too hard when fusion was introduced, because the actual fusion characters are a fun idea and represent each characters relationship with each other. But our introduction to it was Amethyst shaking her ass.
Fusion can be a flexible metaphor but when you introduce it as an erotic act that's what it gets associated with for the rest of the show.

Avatar did this better with firebending, it has a negative and destructive connotation for nearly the entire run, both due to the villains using it and due to Aang burning Katara by accident.
But characters like Iron and the Aztec guys give us a deeper understanding of it over the course of the show, Steven Universe made the mistake of coming out the gate with sex. They should have introduced it as something innocent, because that's how we come to understand sex and relationships as we get older.

 

[Basic Blond Boy]

How come there's hardly any story plots involving parents fighting and how that might affect how a kid will feel? There's always episodes about war, terrorism, assassinations, but not much about traumatic events in a household.
>inb4 "anon I don't think a kid dealing with rough shit would want to be reminded about it watching their favorite 'toons to escape".

Surprised no one has said the obvious yet: Zuko and Azula are pretty much the best representation of a broken household affecting the children. Repressed mother and abusive father, both blatantly favoring the child most like them, absolutely destroying the mental state of the other child. Zuko only ended up okay given he had Iroh to fill the father role, meanwhile Azula was screwed out of a mother.

Korra seems to continue the trend of broken households with Toph being negligent to her kids and not even knowing who their father is most of the time. Both children were heavily messed up as a result.

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For another show, Young Justice is very much a story of children who come from varying degrees of parental disfunction. In the case of what you are asking, Artemis is the one who grew up with the mother dipping and leaving her daughters to be pinned against one another by the father.

Not sure how much it relates, but Superboy is another character that may fall under this branch as he is a pretty obvious rape baby. The boy has no one to turn to as Lex is a manipulator and the clear villain of this story, meanwhile Superman was so perplexed by his existence that he actively avoided him for most of the series.

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If we are looking at other examples, there is still a few left unmentioned:

• El Tigre - The mother and father are split up throughout the series with vague hints they could get back together.
• Teen Titans - Raven comes from a hellish family life similar to Zuko and Azula where the father overpowers the mother and the mother is seemingly absent from Raven’s life. Beast Boy also has a pretty bad situation given the Doom Patrol are incredibly unfit to be handling a child.
• Adventure Time - Never fully stated, but it is pretty obvious Marceline’s parents were split up at some point. Given that Hudson sucks, Simon really filled the parental void when the disease took out Marceline’s mom.
• Clarence - Never really explicitly mentioned what happened to Clarence’s dad, but he is living with his mother and stepdad, and it doesn’t seem like there was a death.

 

[Unexpected Genitals]

It's been years since I watched it, but I remember in the first season of Infinity Train, Tulip's parents were divorced. Part of her arc was coming to terms with that and accepting that she'd been looking back at the past with rose tinted glasses. Whether or not Infinity Train is really "kid's media" is up for debate.

 

[Chromeo]

I don't know what you mean by "OOC".

OOC means "Out Of Character."

Edit to avoid doubleposting: Wasn't there some show that had a child of divorce live with his dad in the present, and his mom was a time traveler that lived in the future? Or was that just a pilot that went nowhere?

 

[BigBadBastich]

Korra seems to continue the trend of broken households with Toph being negligent to her kids and not even knowing who their father is most of the time. Both children were heavily messed up as a result.

This is why I disregard Korra as canon and bonus points for the show leading up to a post apocalyptic future for the next iteration. They treated the old cast like they were washed up or dispensable losers.