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I wonder if Robert's handlers are trying to run the Supreme court in such a manner the court is useless at best, and counterproductive at worst while Trump and MAGA hold power in the white house and congress, so that when Alito, Gorsuch, Thomas and Kavanaugh die off from age, the DC establishment is back in power, and more globohomo stooges can be appointed in their place.
Alito and Thomas are smart enough to realize they will step down in '27 or '28 to let Trump put in their chosen successors. They're not going to Ginsburg this, and even with Vance likely after Trump do it now while there's no real problem in senate confirmations.
 

Alito and Thomas are smart enough to realize they will step down in '27 or '28 to let Trump put in their chosen successors. They're not going to Ginsburg this, and even with Vance likely after Trump do it now while there's no real problem in senate confirmations.
Reminds me of Anita Hill and Blasey-Ford; the Dems might make up another false rape accusation to throw off a Trump SCOTUS nominee. Still a whole lot of naive people out there who think a woman would never ever lie about rape for any reason. Yeah, that'd never happen, not in a million Potiphar's wives would that happen.
 
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I wonder if Robert's handlers are trying to run the Supreme court in such a manner the court is useless at best, and counterproductive at worst while Trump and MAGA hold power in the white house and congress, so that when Alito, Gorsuch, Thomas and Kavanaugh die off from age, the DC establishment is back in power, and more globohomo stooges can be appointed in their place.
Your thought process is mistaken, it’s coincidence (for the most part), not foresight that’s got them this far. The Deep State acts in ways that are coincidentally long lasting, but are often done in a brute-like manner. On top of that, they are loathe to act in an otherwise decisive manner when all seems right to do so, on account of their previous actions. This has only become more apparent with time. If Hogg’s departure was an indicator, it shows they aren’t wise to change tactics. Why? Man is lazy when given comfort.

I am still not happy about the prospect of losing Thomas. He one of the most based black men I have ever seen and seems to be the only one the only judges on the bench right now interested in actually following constitutional law as it is written and understood in the context of the time it was written.
I agree. He’s one of the last men of a bygone era. If we ever have one like him again, it’ll be one of a new age. An age of our own making. Trump is only the beginning.
 
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Alito and Thomas are smart enough to realize they will step down in '27 or '28 to let Trump put in their chosen successors. They're not going to Ginsburg this, and even with Vance likely after Trump do it now while there's no real problem in senate confirmations.
I am still not happy about the prospect of losing Thomas. He one of the most based black men I have ever seen and seems to be one of the only judges on the bench interested in actually following constitutional law as it is written and understood in the context of the time it was written.
 
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I am still not happy about the prospect of losing Thomas. He one of the most based black men I have ever seen and seems to be the only one the only judges on the bench right now interested in actually following constitutional law as it is written and understood in the context of the time it was written.
He's earned to choose his successor, imo. Or, at the very least have a solid look at the candidates
 
Reminds me of Anita Hill and Blasey-Ford; the Dems might make up another false rape accusation to throw off a Trump SCOTUS nominee. Still a whole lot of naive people out there who think a woman would never ever lie about rape for any reason. Yeah, that'd never happen, not in a million Potiphar's wives would that happen.
Whenever I run into dipshits who say "believe all women," I bring up Emmett Till. That usually throws them for a loop. You see them do Oppression Olympics in their brain in real-time.
I am still not happy about the prospect of losing Thomas. He one of the most based black men I have ever seen and seems to be the only one the only judges on the bench right now interested in actually following constitutional law as it is written and understood in the context of the time it was written.
What if Thomas's successor is literally Uncle Ruckus?
 
I am still not happy about the prospect of losing Thomas. He one of the most based black men I have ever seen and seems to be the only one the only judges on the bench right now interested in actually following constitutional law as it is written and understood in the context of the time it was written.
I'm not happy about that either. Thing is, nobody lives forever and losing him to a liberal president would be a very shitty prospect. It's better he steps down gracefully so he can have a nice retirement ceremony.
 
Man, is Gorsuch the only consistently non-disappointing Orange Man SCOTUS justice?

He's earned to choose his successor, imo. Or, at the very least have a solid look at the candidates
I remember fairly recently where a 9th Circus judge dissented from the cucked en banc while disassembling and reassembling his pistol (P320?) in a video. I'd take that guy.

Just hope the P320 doesnt shoot him.
 
LET'S
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They’re just kicking the can down the road. Only difference being this time, they’re tossing some verbal bait as to not entirely piss us off. You got to be realistic about these things. With the courts and their “rulings,” it’s in the here and now. Doing something about the courts, well, that’s where the fun begins.
 
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Can the ‘Abundance Agenda’ Save the Democrats?
The Wall Street Journal (archive.ph)
By Molly Ball
1 Jun 2025 09:07:19 UTC
SAN FRANCISCO—A raging political fad has taken over the Democratic Party, coalescing politicians, activists and rank-and-file partisans around an unlikely message: The government is broken.

The party’s postelection angst has found an unexpected life raft in the idea of “abundance,” catalyzed by the recent publication of a book by that name that argues that regulatory obstacles and an obsession with procedure have caused liberal governance to fail to deliver on its promises.

Democratic politicians are rushing to embrace the new mantra. New York Gov. Kathy Hochul, Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, Maryland Gov. Wes Moore and Colorado Gov. Jared Polis have all name-checked it publicly. New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker discussed it at length in his recent 25-hour Senate speech. Former Vice President Kamala Harris and the U.S. Senate’s Democratic caucus are among the many politicians who have recently sought the authors’ counsel. Not one but two congressional caucuses have recently formed to push legislation advancing the ideas laid out in the book.

It isn’t just party elders who have bought into the idea. Local Abundance clubs have formed in multiple cities and on college campuses. At a recent “Abundance Happy Hour” in San Francisco’s Mission district, hundreds gathered on a weeknight this month to mingle with fellow devotees. Banners at the gathering read “BUILD AMERICA. DEFEAT FASCISM.”

Connor Skelly, 35, the COO of a residential remodeling company, said he was drawn to the ideas of “Abundance” because he wants his four children to be able to afford to live in San Francisco. “I think Democrats are looking for something to be for right now,” he said. “With Trump, there’s so much to be against. People are looking for something positive to be excited about.”

The book by Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson has been a surprise hit, with a sold-out national tour, hundreds of thousands of copies sold and two months on the bestseller list since its release in March.

The policy tome argues that Democrats must grapple with—and shoulder some blame for—the fact that blue states like California are mired in high-price stagnation, while red states such as Texas and Florida offer a dynamism and quality of life that keep attracting new residents. Regulations intended to protect consumers, communities and the environment, they say, have metastasized to create an administrative regime that prevents anything from getting built, from high-speed rail projects to housing.

California Gov. Gavin Newsom recently hosted Klein on his podcast for an in-depth 90-minute discussion, where he waxed somewhat defensive about the way the book depicts his state as Exhibit A for Democratic dysfunction; Newsom nonetheless proclaimed the book “essential reading for Democrats” and said he has been handing out copies to the leaders of the state legislature.

While Klein and Thompson’s diagnosis has echoes in conservative critiques of government and Elon Musk’s DOGE, the authors’ prescription is very different. Instead of taking a wrecking ball to the bureaucracy, the authors propose cutting red tape and unleashing the state as a stimulant to growth and innovation.

“The system is broken. The government is too inefficient and ineffective to meet the challenges of the 21st century,” Rep. Ritchie Torres (D., N.Y.) recently wrote on X. “But the answer is not DOGE. It is ABUNDANCE.”

As Democrats grope for a way forward in the wake of their 2024 election loss, advocates hope the party can present a new vision for the future by embracing the book’s call to streamline housing, transit, energy and scientific research.

“I want the 2028 primaries and the presidential race to be about who is for progressive abundance,” Steve M. Boyle, one of the San Francisco happy hour’s organizers and the executive director of the newly formed YIMBY Democrats for America, said in an interview. Proving that government can improve people’s lives, he argued, is the only way to prevent voters from turning to authoritarian strongmen.

The Abundance movement cuts across the party’s ideological fissures, attracting support from elements of the moderate establishment and the socialist left alike. “Look, I’m for Medicare for all and taxing billionaires more, but I also want effective government to make sure when we pass those things it actually works,” said Rep. Ro Khanna (D., Calif.), a progressive ally of Sen. Bernie Sanders (I., Vt.).

The book’s call to action has helped popularize and accelerate a movement that’s been brewing for a decade among policy experts and activists. “YIMBY,” or “yes in my backyard,” activists have pushed for housing reform across the country over the past decade and have become a political force in California. An Abundance conference in Washington last November drew 300 participants.

“The book has given voice to a feeling that people have had for a while—that it’s just too hard to build things,” said Rep. Josh Harder (D., Calif.), a swing-district moderate who recently launched the Build America Caucus on Capitol Hill. The 30-member bipartisan group hopes to push for policies such as permitting reform for energy transmission.

Among those in attendance at the Abundance happy hour was Nancy Tung, the chairwoman of the San Francisco Democratic Party, who said the book offers an answer to recent political backlash to perceived progressive overreach. Tung was part of a slate of self-styled moderates who won a majority on the party’s publicly elected central committee last spring. Rank-and-file voters want to see “results, not renaming schools,” she said.

“It’s the only really new, original thing happening on the left,” said Noah Smith, a center-left economics blogger cited as one of the movement’s intellectual leaders. Democrats, he said, should embrace abundance as a counterargument to President Trump’s zero-sum vision of restricted trade and immigration.
In her short-lived 2024 campaign, Harris’s promise to build 3 million new homes in America was the best-testing of her proposals, according to both her campaign and Trump’s. A “Yimbys for Harris” Zoom fundraiser drew 30,000 participants and raised more than $130,000.

To be sure, “Abundance” has enemies on the left, who have attacked the book in many essays, podcasts and book reviews. Critics argue the authors are blind to—or stooges of—the corporate power that is the true culprit for the problems the book lays out. Abundance, Aaron Regunberg and David Sirota argued recently in Rolling Stone, “encourages Democrats to focus on the wrong solutions, and elevates deregulatory narratives already being weaponized by the right.”

But Abundance proponents say making government more effective and limiting corporate power aren’t mutually exclusive. They argue that their platform is a route to the hearts of working-class voters, who may not follow politics closely but believe that rents are too high and progress too slow. They also hope it can help Democrats win back young voters by explicitly renouncing the prior generation’s failures.

The book’s authors, Thompson and Klein, said in interviews they hoped to galvanize a political movement but never dreamed it would catch on the way it has. Originally slated to come out last year, the book’s release was delayed by the authors’ procrastination—a delay that ended up being fortuitous when it landed the release in the middle of Democrats’ postelection soul-searching.

Klein said it was telling that so many Democratic pols intuitively grasped the book’s message. “I didn’t write a book that’s substantially about zoning reform and state capacity and think, ‘We’re headed to No. 1, baby,’” he joked. “When a book like this hits, it’s because it’s creating a way for people to have a conversation that they already wanted to have.”

[A]n unlikely message: The government is broken.
Instead of taking a wrecking ball to the bureaucracy, the authors propose cutting red tape and unleashing the state[.]
"Okay, the government is broken, but it's NOT the bureaucracy, we need MORE state." The more things change, the more they stay the same.
 
"Okay, the government is broken, but it's NOT the bureaucracy, we need MORE state." The more things change, the more they stay the same.
The "abundance" agenda is literally just the WEF's Agenda 20XX plan.

I'm not exaggerating, the book advocates for removing all zoning laws and building apartments everywhere to house immigrants.

From Wikipedia:
Supply-side progressives criticize regulations that constrain the supply of essential goods and services. Examples include zoning laws and building permit requirements that impede the building of new housing and infrastructure, as well as limits on [...] immigration.

They also call themselves fascists (also Wikipedia):
They present the abundance agenda both as a Third Way policy alternative and as a way to initiate new economic conditions that will diminish the appeal of the "socialist left" and the "populist-authoritarian right".
 
Jews are against the ten commandments being posted?
Separation of church and state aside, do they realize what Moses brought back from the mountain that time? Gonna be a hell of a surprise when they find out I guess.

This is true, but don't forget that after Moses left to go get the Commandments, the Jews he led out of Egypt ditched God to worship a golden bull.

The hilarious thing is that all this happened within a relatively short period after they escaped from Egypt, so the Jews who did this knew for a fact that God was real because they saw Him directly intervene to free them from slavery with the plagues He sent against the Pharaoh and the parting of the Red Sea.

That was 15 years ago, when he was 25.

I don't know about anyone else, but I've changed my view on things since 2010.

Indeed, if you'd met me 15 years ago, I had very stupid reddit-tier opinions on religion and politics; times change

I am still not happy about the prospect of losing Thomas. He one of the most based black men I have ever seen and seems to be one of the only judges on the bench interested in actually following constitutional law as it is written and understood in the context of the time it was written.

If Trump does make a SCOTUS replacement for Thomas (assuming he steps down) before his term ends, hopefully, he gets better advice on a pick; he already called out the Federalist Society for screwing him over during the first term. They're the guys that advised Trump on ACB, Kavanaugh, and Gorsuch, and I think they also played a hand in the federal judges he appointed, some of whom joined in with the lawfare against him.
 
Remember there's a ton of youtube videos and shorts about asking these holy ascended euroids and UKies about common knowledge questions about their own neighborhoods and history on top of foreign geography and they bombed out in comical fashion too.

Turns out random people by and large in general are johnny punch clocks and the public school system in the west who's foundation is loosely based on the prussian military academy model (Smart enough to read the orders, not enough to question them) may not be ideal for education.
We were really just jealous, my country couldn't even afford to go and have a war
 
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The "abundance" agenda is literally just the WEF's Agenda 20XX plan.

I'm not exaggerating, the book advocates for removing all zoning laws and building apartments everywhere to house immigrants.

From Wikipedia:


They also call themselves fascists (also Wikipedia):
I'm not opposed to loosening zoning laws to allow more mixed use. What if we were to allow more housing to be built, and kicked out all the freeloading parasites?
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