Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[GamerGateSurvivor]

I'm mostly curious whether he could finagle a situation where he legitimately could argue his "reserved for business" funds can't be included in his personal funds. That is, if he was competent and all that.

I'm no lawyer but I'm pretty sure the fact that he filed his business as an LLC might give him some protection.

 

[DumbDude43]

What I'm curious about is how Intimate Dealings LLC is structured. If he's got investors and partners, I have to wonder about the legality of him using his business's funds to pay for his lolsuit.

i'm 99.99% sure that his llc has no investors, no partners, no revenue, no employees, and exists only because greer hopes that people take a corporation more seriously than they do him personally.

 

[HackerX]

I'm no lawyer but I'm pretty sure the fact that he filed his business as an LLC might give him some protection.

Yeah, but it doesn't seem like the "reserved for business" money was under the business's name. I imagine it's hell of a lot easier to justify that money for his use case if it's held in an account exclusively for the LLC. IMO and assuming Russ isn't lying (he is), he's probably double retarded. That account is likely under his name, with no traceable relationship to the LLC, and it's highly plausible it's in his standard, personal account. That is, the money is indistinguishable from his personal funds.

I doubt any of this matters because why the hell is Russ bringing this up in a copyright dispute, but he's inadvertently opening up doors that he doesn't want open. Then complain about it being irrelevant because he didn't reply to the motion and eventually get ordered to produce said thing many multiples of times, stalker child.

 

[Prokhor Zakharov]

Yeah, but it doesn't seem like the "reserved for business" money was under the business's name. I imagine it's hell of a lot easier to justify that money for his use case if it's held in an account exclusively for the LLC. IMO and assuming Russ isn't lying (he is), he's probably double retarded. That account is likely under his name, with no traceable relationship to the LLC, and it's highly plausible it's in his standard, personal account. That is, the money is indistinguishable from his personal funds.

I doubt any of this matters because why the hell is Russ bringing this up in a copyright dispute, but he's inadvertently opening up doors that he doesn't want open. Then complain about it being irrelevant because he didn't reply to the motion and eventually get ordered to produce said thing many multiples of times, stalker child.

If he had the money held in a company account it would be subject to all the typical regulations that govern corporate funds, etc... so he couldn't just make a corporate account, stick the money in it, and then say "look, it's business money" then move it right back into his personal account when no one was bothering to look. You can't treat a corporate account like that, for obvious reasons.

Anything Rusty the troglodyte would try to do to shield his personal monies as "business monies" are schemes and scams that have already been tried many times before by people much smarter than him and have all either 1) Failed, because it was blatantly illegal to do so 2) Was actually legal at the time, and subsequent regulations and laws made doing so in the future illegal for obvious reasons. There is a reason there are so many rules and regulations of what exactly is "personal" money and what exactly is "business" money in the true sense of both terms and how each needs to be treated, so people can't play fast and loose with what belongs to whom in situations where one needs to declare assets for legal purposes.

Rusty is probably stupid enough to think he is the very first person to ever come up with the "Ah Ha! But that is 'Business Money'! It's not 'my' money!" scam. That shit is probably as old as businesses are.

 

[oh no its pipkun]

Considering that ID LLC has no assets, expenses, or income of any kind, and just exists for Greer's larp,

were the tax returns made public? how do you know theres no assets? I believe "no income" as in revenue but i'm betting there's expenses and contributions or "loans".

 

[Cynically Insane]

Plaintiff plaintiff Russell Greer comes forward now and demands the court order the defendants to spend $6,500 in attorney's fees because the plaintiff doesn't want to dip into his savings and spend $87.000 to produce a document he swore he had to prosecute the case he brought.

 

[Prokhor Zakharov]

were the tax returns made public? how do you know theres no assets? I believe "no income" as in revenue but i'm betting there's expenses and contributions or "loans".

The current entity was just formed, so it has not made any necessary financial reports yet.

 

[Pee Cola]

Russ is more retarded than he is vexatious and removing the possibility of receiving sanctions in the future is for his own good.

Russhole is a malicious retard. Or, to put it more politely, wilfully recalcitrant.

I call this Greer's razor.

Unlike Hanlon and never attributing to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity, Greer's razor states that wherever there is malice there is also stupidity in equal measure.

 

[Harvey Danger]

I'm no lawyer but I'm pretty sure the fact that he filed his business as an LLC might give him some protection.

That's why it's so important for him NOT to co-mingle funds. If he does, it "pierces the veil" of corporate protection, and lets a creditor go after monies hidden there too.

Russ is a retard who can't keep an LLC active, retain his own lawsuit filings, keep his court dates straight, find the SPO in a google search, or retrieve his own police reports. There is no way he managed to set up and use multiple bank accounts correctly.

 

[Prokhor Zakharov]

Plaintiff plaintiff Russell Greer comes forward now and demands the court order the defendants to spend $6,500 in attorney's fees because the plaintiff doesn't want to dip into his savings and spend $87.000 to produce a document he swore he had to prosecute the case he brought.

If Rusty wants to play stupid games, Null should just say "Okay, we'll give you the $87.00, but you'll have to pay us for all the associated cost of having Mr. Hardin do so, which will amount to several thousand dollars. Once you give us the several thousand dollars, we will give you the $87.00 dollars. Sounds fair, right, seeing as we are now seemingly asking the other side to cover our costs now?"

 

[GamerGateSurvivor]

I doubt any of this matters because why the hell is Russ bringing this up in a copyright dispute, but he's inadvertently opening up doors that he doesn't want open. Then complain about it being irrelevant because he didn't reply to the motion and eventually get ordered to produce said thing many multiples of times, stalker child.

A good thing to remember with Russ is he uses his IFP status to trauma dump on judges because it's cheaper than a therapist. The copyright shit was just his foot in the door to waste everyone's time and money.

 

[oh no its pipkun]

It's called co-mingling of funds. Depending on how he set things up with his business and how he pays for things, it might actually be an illegal breach of fiduciary duty.

"How does Russ breach duty to a company that's just him?"

the retards i've seen doing this were hit with tax evasion, and for 1 chink family it was some kinda liability avoidence in a civil suit.

The current entity was just formed, so it has not made any necessary financial reports yet.

you can transfer money into the llc as a contribution.

 

[a hapless toad]

Let's not forget that Greer's LLC paperwork may be fraudulent. For example, who are W.H. and Chris Whomstever?

 

[RodgerDodger]

Yeah, but it doesn't seem like the "reserved for business" money was under the business's name. I imagine it's hell of a lot easier to justify that money for his use case if it's held in an account exclusively for the LLC. IMO and assuming Russ isn't lying (he is), he's probably double retarded. That account is likely under his name, with no traceable relationship to the LLC, and it's highly plausible it's in his standard, personal account. That is, the money is indistinguishable from his personal funds.

I doubt any of this matters because why the hell is Russ bringing this up in a copyright dispute, but he's inadvertently opening up doors that he doesn't want open. Then complain about it being irrelevant because he didn't reply to the motion and eventually get ordered to produce said thing many multiples of times, stalker child.

You have to pay the bank extra for a business account. Enough that Shitlips without question took the cheap easy route.

I still maintain its a dual account with his parents to act as a safety net. He almost certainly needs to explain any withdrawals and provide receipts.

 

[obsdj]

A good thing to remember with Russ is he uses his IFP status to trauma dump on judges because it's cheaper than a therapist.

It’s also good to remember that Greer no longer has IFP status as of last month.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Unlike Hanlon and never attributing to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity, Greer's razor states that wherever there is malice there is also stupidity in equal measure.

Greer is too fucking retarded for his malice to be terribly effective, hens (and roosters) him shooting himself in the foot repeatedly.

It's quite a fun game to read his retarded filings and try to determine which parts are retarded, which parts are wishful plighting, which parts are attempted coy malice, and which parts are just pure insanity. NOTE BENE: They will add up to way more than 100%

 

[RodgerDodger]

Let's not forget that Greer's LLC paperwork may be fraudulent. For example, who are W.H. and Chris Whomstever?

Let's not forget that ID LLC was only legally created AFTER the hearing where he was informed without question he had liabilities for Court Costs and Sanctions. If he shifted all of his money into the LLC after that its trying to hide or shield assets.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Let's not forget that ID LLC was only legally created AFTER the hearing where he was informed without question he had liabilities for Court Costs and Sanctions. If he shifted all of his money into the LLC after that its trying to hide or shield assets.

These tricks are too fucking complicated for Greer, he only creates LLCs because they're cheap and he thinks real businesses have them (he would be ass-blasted to know how many "real businesses" don't even bother with an LLC)

 

[JustSomeDong]

Not to mention rain gear and a flotation device. Null should be dressed like the Gorton's Fisherman before Shitlips is allowed to start asking him questions.

If it would please the court, I'd like to offer into evidence this image that fell out of a timewarp and landed on my hardrive, from the year 2341. It appears to be some kind of historical record from the future.

Exhibit 4F:
slobbermutt prepares for his day in court with russel greer - circa 2042, colorized.jpg




I swear on my future brothel empire that this image is real and not just a hastily searched and renamed stock image of a dog in a raincoat, so help me Hof.

 

[Kiwi Lime Pie]

Saying RG once a again dropped the ball would be restating the obvious, but I doubt anyone is surprised that Hardin's gracious extension was squandered by RG who now has to grovel to the court to bail him out of yet another self-inflicted predicament caused by his chronic inability to manage time and meet deadlines.

Ideally, RG would be held accountable for his ongoing pattern of missing, ignoring, and stalling court-imposed deadlines. How the case has proceeded thus far, though, I won't hold my breath waiting for that and I'll be pleasantly surprised if and when it does happen.

It's called co-mingling of funds. Depending on how he set things up with his business and how he pays for things, it might actually be an illegal breach of fiduciary duty.

Normally you want to keep your business and personal finances separate. Accountants hate it when you mix the two because it makes handling your taxes a nightmare.

Can confirm. A former accounting boss had to deal with two IRS examinations resulting from clients who paid personal expenses directly from corporate accounts - one of whom was suspected of money laundering by the IRS because that particular client thought it was also smart to haphazardly transfer funds back and forth between two different corporate entities.

Anyone needing to pay personal expenses with money from a business entity should consult a trusted/reputable tax professional who can explain how to do it in a way that won't make the government suspect financial fuckery.

The current entity was just formed, so it has not made any necessary financial reports yet.

And it also depends on how the entity is set up. If it's a single-member LLC, it would report its activity on Schedule C which would be part of his personal return. If it's elected to be taxed as a corporation or partnership, it would file the appropriate 1065 or 1120-series return.