The Mysterious Mr. Enter / Jonathan Rozanski's "Growing Around" - IndieGoGo Campaign Failed, John going off the deep end, "Turning Red" is ignorant about 9/11 (later retracted)

[Kalsarikännit]

Did Enter have history with Saberspark or is he just pivoting to covering drama more? Haven't watched the vid yet.

 

[TokiBun]

Did Enter have history with Saberspark or is he just pivoting to covering drama more? Haven't watched the vid yet.

Covering drama more when it's animation related.

 

[Peru oso donas]

Did Enter have history with Saberspark or is he just pivoting to covering drama more? Haven't watched the vid yet.

Ever since the StarGiant video he started having a "self righteous" attitude when it came to cartoon drama, as in this videos case, he basically said he had to make it after KP made a blunder out of the situation, and did all of the investigation into verifying EmuEmi's story that KP should have done instead. Despite that, I do feel that Enter has a modicum of self awareness in that respect, as he has a bit at the end of the video where he mentions how his word doesn't hold more meaning than a professional's, and that if you believe any youtuber, including himself, at face value, you are pretty naive.
Edit: Posted the reply before finishing it.

 

[Fault&Fracture 777]

Enter's video on the saberspark drama is out

Hats off, I find MrEnter’s drama videos incredibly entertaining

His actual animation content is a mixed bag, I enjoyed the Glenn Martin DDS Video because I was morbidly curious with how that show turned out from beginning to end.
But his other videos like the “giant” Boss Baby Video he hyped up are garbage.

His drama videos have always had a quality level of insanity that kept me engaged.

 

[Delta Δ]

He is using MOON CYCLES to determine if Saberspark is a rapist or not

 

[ASeabear8952]

Did Enter have history with Saberspark or is he just pivoting to covering drama more? Haven't watched the vid yet.

The closest thing was that in his video where he talked about his harassment several years ago Saber left a comment apologizing for any shit talking towards him he might’ve done.

 

[Maeis]

Yeah, thankfully his conclusion was "it could have happened, but that doesn't mean it did." The point was to see if the story was impossible to match with the facts, which is more interesting than determining guilt on a crime 13 years too late.

He is using MOON CYCLES to determine if Saberspark is a rapist or not

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[Day of the Cope]

He used to be an "angry" critic and now (as most of them have), he's distanced from that.

 

[Mr. Giggles]

Yeah, thankfully his conclusion was "it could have happened, but that doesn't mean it did." The point was to see if the story was impossible to match with the facts, which is more interesting than determining guilt on a crime 13 years too late.

Agreed. Personally, I think that Enter handled this topic almost perfectly. Sure, it's a very long video, but it needed to be, as he had a lot of shit to cover. My only real complaint is some repetition in some parts, along with some other small nitpicks, but otherwise, he laid out what he and co. was able to gather in an objective, neutral way, and leaving who to believe up to you (if you want my option, I'm neutral right now, as Enter even admits this is a "he said, she said" situation, and I think there needs to be more concrete proof before going one way or another).

What I'm really curious about is if Saber will make any future moves or responses now that Enter's video came out and firmly established the identity of the accuser as EmuEmi, while he portrayed the allegations as being made up by ILoveKimPossibleALot and/or Brony Fandont to slander him in his initial response video, especially if he still has records of his and Emi's Skype conversations (maybe he still has his old computer, or a backup from that time, which Emi does not). If he does, and if the contents could prove that she was fine with hooking up with him in such a way back then, then those could slap down these allegations once and for all. But the contents could also condemn him and prove he's guilty, so who the fuck really knows?

But, the most important thing about all of this is the following I've wrote in a post on Saber's thread:

KP already had to live with making one of the most reviled attempts at delivering such serious criminal allegations, but now she also has to live with being outdone by whom many just see as the Turning Red 9/11 guy, which I think many here would agree is a fate worse than death.

 

[Kokenami]

Covering drama more when it's animation related.

except for the LioConvoy video which was only vaguely related to animation since it was a part of his spergy StarGiant crusade.

 

[Girly Games Dot Com]

To think MrEnter used to have his own KF board at one point to now people actually liking his videos. Has he made it out of Lolcowdom yet? I suppose we should wait until he ditches Growing Around.

 

[Maeis]

But, the most important thing about all of this is the following I've wrote in a post on Saber's thread

I don't think the Turning Red 9/11 stuff still follows Enter, mostly because he has admitted (and made fun of himself) that it was ridiculous.

 

[ASeabear8952]

Has he made it out of Lolcowdom yet? I suppose we should wait until he ditches Growing Around.

In my opinion he either has or is pretty damn close.

Also on an unrelated note, I rewatched Enter’s deleted COVID videos and the PSA one (particularly the Steven Universe PSA part). It’s been five years and almost everything he said turned out to be correct. I applauded his brief red pill arc then and I applaud it now. Sucks that he changed course on everything he said only for the sake of keeping his image clean.

 

[Kokenami]

He was this close to being based, this close.

 

[Maeis]

In my opinion he either has or is pretty damn close.

Also on an unrelated note, I rewatched Enter’s deleted COVID videos and the PSA one (particularly the Steven Universe PSA part). It’s been five years and almost everything he said turned out to be correct. I applauded his brief red pill arc then and I applaud it now. Sucks that he changed course on everything he said only for the sake of keeping his image clean.

Yeah, it's pretty hard to be red pill AND have leftie fans. None of his "Core audience" liked that stuff.

 

[TokiBun]

He was this close to being based, this close.
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I'd say ask this question in a year and see where it stands. As far as I can tell Enter seems more receptive to constructive criticism as the years go on. I gotta give him this--for all the years he's been clowned on it's commendable that he hasn't given up on YouTube. Is he getting a million views each upload? No, but he does have a loyal following that genuinely enjoys his content. For a possibly former lolcow that's pretty impressive.

 

[Kokenami]

I gotta give him this--for all the years he's been clowned on it's commendable that he hasn't given up on YouTube

Yeah most people in his position would have DFE'd years ago.

 

[Maeis]

One great moment was during his "Top 10 worst videos" list where he acknowledges the existence of re-uploads of his content, and doesn't mind (He could have been a massive sperg about this ) except to request that they blur out the name of that SpongeBob writer he named and shamed all those years ago. Accepting responsibility and trying to lessen damage even after people were dogging him over it.

 

[Mr. Giggles]

To think MrEnter used to have his own KF board at one point to now people actually liking his videos. Has he made it out of Lolcowdom yet? I suppose we should wait until he ditches Growing Around.

The main issue is that he's went through a similar redemption arc before. While the main reasons why the Enter board was closed was because of the insane A-logging, in-fighting, and weenery, one more minor reason was because because people were asking similar same questions at that point as well, to the point where a Kiwi made an entire thread arguing as to why he still was, with others indeed debating that he hasn't crossed that line yet. Others had the opinion that even if Enter was a lolcow, the people surrounding Enter, from his fans to his haters, were the bigger lolcows, which I think many here also have that opinion with the likes of Star Giant, or the people still bringing up either Turning Red or the "do not ping me, ever" incidents.

That was back in 2015, and while Growing Around was still a thing, it didn't become truly infamous until its Indiegogo campaign in 2018, and the quality of his reviews were debatably improving even at that point, as at least he wasn't inciting harassment towards SpongeBob writers anymore, and it kept improving until his peak of this era with his review of Re-Animated (which I agree with Enter on that point, which he mentions on his top 10 best Enter videos list).

But, as I said before, then came the Growing Around Indiegogo, which began only a few months after the Re-Animated review only to crash spectacularly, which I personally mark as the end of that redemption arc (and Enter himself acknowledges that being a turning point for his career on that same video), and him hiring Star Giant shortly afterwards. And then came Nick-O-Rama in the end of 2019 and into 2020, and then his COVID videos (which, agree with him or not, were very divisive, with even many Kiwis over here being critical of them), and finally his Turning Red video putting him back into 2014 levels of infamy in my opinion.

While, yes, he has been rebounding since that clusterfuck, I feel him slipping up again might be ineviable. One example is if he does focus more on drama content, as many of y'all suggest, he might end up with an example that does blow up in his face, probably not to the extent of KP and her clusterfuck of a video, but I feel that with such content "you live by the sword, you die by the sword". Don't just ask KP, but Karl Jobst, iDubbbz, Mutahar, or any other drama YouTuber out there, as they've all made mistakes and got into controversies; some big, some small, and in a few hot sauce flavored instances, truly catastrophic which could even destroy their IRL lives and families.

But even if he does again focus on his animation reviews, there's also the issue of him still having a habit of abandoning or forgetting about projects or series, such as, going by his plans for last year, remaking his videos on modern PSAs and his top 10 advertising campaigns list, along with making a documentary on Eddsworld. It's to the point where I wouldn't be surprised if CN Reel, which was also originally for last year before Enter delayed it to this year, silently gets cancelled or again gets delayed. If he proves me wrong and not only starts releasing CN Reel but completes the series at the end of this year, then we could talk.

tl;dr: He went through a redemption arc before but went right back to rock bottom, and I wouldn't be surprised if that happens again with his current arc.

 

[AnOminous]

Others had the opinion that even if Enter was a lolcow, the people surrounding Enter, from his fans to his haters, were the bigger lolcows, which I think many here also have that opinion with the likes of Star Giant, or the people still bringing up either Turning Red or the "do not ping me, ever" incidents.

The board was also attracting a bunch of underage retards with terrible opsec and was just an embarrassment in general. To us, not to Enter.

So pretty much "Enter wins by doing absolutely nothing."