Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

When will the Judge issue a ruling regarding the Motion to Dismiss?

  • This Month

    Votes: 66 13.8%
  • Next Month

    Votes: 56 11.7%
  • This Year

    Votes: 74 15.5%
  • Next Year

    Votes: 164 34.4%
  • Whenever he issues an update to the sanctions

    Votes: 117 24.5%

  • Total voters
    477
The final day dawns.

Or midnight rolls over. Metaphor or realism, you pick.

There is of course no way the judge is going to answer this tomorrow except as a straight text refusal in the docket like last time. Therefore there is no way Russhole is getting the document to The Hardship on time. This leaves either late or non-compliance as the only reports that Hardin can make on the 10th.

How long do we think before the judge issues a finding on the report, or however you word it? Immediately or at the end of the period when everything else comes due?

Sadly I think the latter. Though this also means Russ won't be discouraged in making crackpot plight filled filings for our amusement so there is that, though it will continue to cost Josh for Hardin to file responses to them.
 
Russ should refer to a recent Minnesota precedent, and state that just because he raised something once, he can just make it disappear when it would be embarrassing. Also he should mention he refers to a child at least once in the application, it's gross that Josh even wants it.

Oh shit we're not supposed to give him great ideas, sorry.
 
also, try as i might, i cannot find this comment from the court (that greer conveniently failed to site as a docket entry):
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on july 15th, 2024, there are three orders on the most recent utah docket:
ecf 133: granting greer's motion to reconsider and to vacate the transfer to florida
ecf 134: the district judge referring all of the pending motions to the magistrate judge (see below, ecf 136)
ecf 135: mooting greer's motion requesting ecf access due to a prior arrangement with the court
This is also annoying me greatly. I think Greer is talking about ECF# 133. In there there's this part:
The court nonetheless found that this factor favored Defendants because Mr. Greer had failed to respond to their motion and because Mr. Greer’s choice of forum was accorded little weight. However, this decision was made in error. No Tenth Circuit authority suggests that this factor should be flipped when the plaintiff’s choice of forum is accorded little weight or when the non-movant does not respond. Instead, the caselaw is clear that the movant “bears the burden of establishing that the existing forum is inconvenient” and that the transferee forum would be more convenient. The court’s determination to completely relieve Defendants of the burden of showing that transfer would be convenient for the parties and witnesses was clearly erroneous and, therefore, the court vacates its prior decision transferring the case to the Northern District of Florida.
I guess if you're retarded you can interpret this as the court saying it erred by granting something because Greer didn't reply. But what the court's saying is that merely because Greer didn't respond, that doesn't mean opposing responsibilities just fade away. I do not know what responsibilities Hardin has in showing relevancy, but I think it's easily met by just giving that initial email wherein Greer says it's relevant. I'm not digging back for that, but 99% sure that's what happened since that email is part of a filing.
 
Welcome to linear time and the developments associated with that.
This line right here is making my sides hurt even more than ECF 326 itself already is.

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He really doesn't want Null to see the those documents.

The simple explanation is that he's afraid that if Josh gets his hands on them, they'll be posted here and we'll make fun of his plightsperging while fresh trauma lumps form.

The potentially more fun explanation is that something in the documents is evidence of a crime or potential cause for civil action against him. I would laugh if it was something as blatantly actionable as when Epik seized the kiwifarms.net domain and accused Null of hosting child porn. I mean, yes, it would suck if Null had to deal with more defamation bullshit, but what I wouldn't give to see Greer's face when he realizes Null now knows the thing he was desperate to keep Null from finding out.

Even a face as paralyzed as Greer's can clearly express fear.
 
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This line right here is making my sides hurt even more than ECF 326 itself already is.

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He really doesn't want Null to see the those documents.

The simple explanation is that he's afraid that if Josh gets his hands on them, they'll be posted here and we'll make fun of his plightsperging while fresh trauma lumps form.

The potentially more fun explanation is that something in the documents is evidence of a crime or potential cause for civil action against him. I would laugh if it was something as blatantly actionable as when Epik seized the kiwifarms.net domain and accused Null of hosting child porn. I mean, yes, it would suck if Null had to deal with more defamation bullshit, but what I wouldn't give to see Greer's face when he realizes Null now knows the thing he was desperate to keep Null from finding out.

Even a face as paralyzed as Greer's can clearly express fear.
Clearly Hardin shouldn't post the images online or show them to Mr. Moon. That way, it will be funnier when the court clerk posts them to the public record and we can download and read them ourselves. I suppose that Null can close his eyes while we're poring over the legally obtained documents on his site. God knows that slobber mutts are known for being very obedient as well as damp.
 
He doesn't think that he owes money. In King Coomer's oft neglected coombrain, his thoughts on those $1000 sanctions (which god willing will be much, much higher by the end of this month) are something along the lines of "meh they don't matter." Whatever excuse he needs to justify that, it's unknown and unknowable and he probably hasn't even thought it up yet. Ultimately it's just "meh they don't matter."
When (finally) Russ is made to pay sanctions, he will simply claim that the sanctions aren’t actually sanctions at all, but that he’s been ‘fined for telling the truth’/‘fined for trying to take down Notorious Hate Site Kiwi Farms’.

Kinda like he was ‘fined’ for ‘telling the truth’ about Ariana Grande and her evil disability-hating ways (tm).

Ever the victim, never the problem. That’s Russ.
 
This line right here is making my sides hurt even more than ECF 326 itself already is.

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He really doesn't want Null to see the those documents.

The simple explanation is that he's afraid that if Josh gets his hands on them, they'll be posted here and we'll make fun of his plightsperging while fresh trauma lumps form.

The potentially more fun explanation is that something in the documents is evidence of a crime or potential cause for civil action against him. I would laugh if it was something as blatantly actionable as when Epik seized the kiwifarms.net domain and accused Null of hosting child porn. I mean, yes, it would suck if Null had to deal with more defamation bullshit, but what I wouldn't give to see Greer's face when he realizes Null now knows the thing he was desperate to keep Null from finding out.

Even a face as paralyzed as Greer's can clearly express fear.
Wait, isn't that literally him asking for the SPO but without actually going through the SPO process? Something he's been told, repeatedly now, that he has to follow if he wants it to be "Attorney's Eyes Only," and literally the only time the dumbfuck managed to do it was when he was committing a felony trying to extort a settlement from the defense?
 
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The Magistrate already said in the hearing that it is not to be published elsewhere, otherwise the uploader will be criminally investigated.

Russtard is shitting his britches over something that is already explicitly forbidden. Presumably because he was too busy sending whorehouse emails to listen to the proceedings.

Idk where he's gotten this idea that a plaintiff should never have to incur costs, but it's extremely funny and I think he should keep belabouring the point to the Magistrate. Keep mentioning that you have savings you aren't prepared to use because there's other shit you'd rather be spending it on.

I know, I know. I'm giving him advice again... :story:
 
He has already failed to secure the document since he won't get it done in a single day even if he did pay.

We have the lying about IFP, lying about Steve Taylor, and now failing to do what a judge has specifically told him to do. That makes 3 reasons that could easily result in case ending sanctions (dismissal) by themselves.

I think this case is going to be dismissed soonish. Greer is forcing the hand of the judge at this point, a Judge just cannot let someone being given instructions, which due to the hearing are public record, defy those instructions and go unpunished. And now is a really good time to dismiss because you can stack 3 reasons for dismissal all at once.

A judge might consider stacking 4 reasons to dismiss if Greer never pays the 1000 dollar sanction. But I think it is simply a matter of waiting for Russel to bleed out.
 
The Magistrate already said in the hearing that it is not to be published elsewhere, otherwise the uploader will be criminally investigated.

Russtard is shitting his britches over something that is already explicitly forbidden.
Because Russell regularly ignores and defies court orders and directions, he assumes everyone else will.
I am usually pessimistic about this court doing the right thing, but I think we might be watching the slow march to the beginning of the end.
We are watching a drowning man using an anvil as a flotation device.
 
The Magistrate already said in the hearing that it is not to be published elsewhere, otherwise the uploader will be criminally investigated.

Russtard is shitting his britches over something that is already explicitly forbidden. Presumably because he was too busy sending whorehouse emails to listen to the proceedings.
This right here might be the first time the court wakes up and is actually pissed. Because Russ is saying "Fuck you Judge, your word ain't worth shit. Those fuckers gonna do what you said not to do." And that is one of the few things Judges really don't like.
 
The Magistrate already said in the hearing that it is not to be published elsewhere, otherwise the uploader will be criminally investigated.
That is not what Barlow Bennett said. See page 13 of the transcript. I will paraphrase it more accurately, but you can read it in full context below.

"Mark it Confidential-Attorneys eyes only. Since it will be marked Confidential-Attorneys Eyes Only, if it shows up on a website there is going to be contempt sanctions....you're [Greer} concerned everything you produce ends up on KiwiFarms, and if it does there will be trouble. So mark it appropriately under the Standard Protective Order, you know how it works now."
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If Russ doesnt mark it. Its fair fucking game.

Transcript Re: May 6th hearing attached. Didn't feel like waiting until it became public, so I paid for it.


edit: shit even I cant keep the names of the two judges straight. Might as well be Bartles & James.
 
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That is not what Barlow said. See page 13 of the transcript. I will paraphrase it more accurately, but you can read it in full context below.

"Mark it Confidential-Attorneys eyes only. Since it will be marked Confidential-Attorneys Eyes Only, if it shows up on a website there is going to be contempt sanctions....you're [Greer} concerned everything you produce ends up on KiwiFarms, and if it does there will be trouble. So mark it appropriately under the Standard Protective Order, you know how it works now."
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If Russ doesnt mark it. Its fair fucking game.
Is it just me, or is the "attorney's eyes only" concept being horribly abused in this case? From personal experience, that's meant to keep things that may come up in Discovery that have no bearing whatsoever on the case from falling into the hands of one of the parties. There is no legitimate reason for most things - aside from, perhaps, third-party confidential information - to be either redacted or shielded from public view in this matter. This is a case involving a public figure, a public website and a huge area of public concern over the very public behavior of the plaintiff. More specifically, there is no good reason that a likely fraudulent claim for an order of protection meant either to silence fair comment and criticism or to attempt to bully Null into action should be shielded from public view.

And what good reason is there to keep Null - the subject of the application - from knowing it's contents?

Greer is abusing process in every possible way.
 
He also seems to be really worried about the contents of his failed restraining order attempt getting published as well.
I wonder what other contents is due to be published. All I'm saying is that with a bit of luck, this could be a very interesting week.

But $67.34 to get this case file is making me and others wonder what the hell is really in it.
Fun fact, despite this being what Russ attempted to get, it is not what the Judge ordered him to get. Oh, well.
 
I wonder what other contents is due to be published. All I'm saying is that with a bit of luck, this could be a very interesting week.


Fun fact, despite this being what Russ attempted to get, it is not what the Judge ordered him to get. Oh, well.
Love your enthusiasm after all these years.

Mr. Greer is firmly entrenched in the 'if I make it look like I'm trying that should be good enough' camp.
 
I wonder what other contents is due to be published. All I'm saying is that with a bit of luck, this could be a very interesting week.
HOLY FUCK THE SEQUEL TO Why I Sued Taylor Swift: and How I Became Falsely Known as Frivolous, Litigious and Crazy IS GOING TO DROP THIS WEEK on google drive

As an aside, for attorney's eyes only - does that normally literally mean for the lawyers only, and the subjects/people being sued can't see it? What could that even normally be? Or is it for like "in discovery we submit the secret recipe for KFC, the attorney can look at it but nobody else; if part of it seems pertinent the attorney can petition for just that part to be made available, or in a bench trial the judge can see?"
 
As an aside, for attorney's eyes only - does that normally literally mean for the lawyers only, and the subjects/people being sued can't see it? What could that even normally be? Or is it for like "in discovery we submit the secret recipe for KFC, the attorney can look at it but nobody else; if part of it seems pertinent the attorney can petition for just that part to be made available, or in a bench trial the judge can see?"
Read the SPO.
 
Fun fact, despite this being what Russ attempted to get, it is not what the Judge ordered him to get. Oh, well.

This fool playing the long game. Waits until it's well past the time when he's supposed to provide the document and fails to do so. When the court tells him you WILL provide the document or be sanctioned -- he just files some other random fucking document.

"Oh, is that not it? I's sorry massa. I can't help it. I's just a lowly tard being bullied by a sophisticated big city lawyer."

Send this nigger to jail.
 
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