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Puppet Tucker Carlson argues that Iran isn't developing nuclear weapons but they should be allowed to, that Iran's neighbor has nukes so why shouldn't they be allowed to have one (also claims two Muslim countries have nukes despite Pakistan being the only Islamic nuclear power), and claims muh BRICs will bring down the US.
The UK has had nukes for some time.
 
And I addressed that with



Is it that hard to read?


Iran considers the US the Great Satan and regularly calls for the destruction of America. You want those people to have nuclear ICBMs?
I think we would all be better off if war with Iran was off the table, and I think that probably means that they get nuclear weapons.
 
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And I addressed that with



Is it that hard to read?


Iran considers the US the Great Satan and regularly calls for the destruction of America. You want those people to have nuclear ICBMs?
Then why not keep doing sabotage then going to war, just for regime change.

The enrichment line just seems like classic fear mongering. We've heard these empty bullshit claims time and time again. That was my point. Sorry I have to spell it out to you.
 
No one advocates for war with Iran
Yeah, just provocation like a slimy slippery rat kike. Hell, I generally enjoy your posts, but you got a hell of a bias when it comes to Israel. We have no business fucking with Iran, that was tucker's point. You act like he's trying to ally with iran, hes not.

I wouldn't be shocked if you've claimed he's being paid by Qatar.
 
If we do what Rand wants and do a non reconciliation bill which requires Schumer on board for 60 votes just so Rand can vote No to maintain his voting record or whatever his cope is it will contain 10x the "pork" at a minimum.

The fact is spending will never EVER be cut in a bill like this because the things that need to be cut will lose you votes like crazy. If Trump cuts anything for Boomers they will be psyop'd into a massive turnout rate by the MSM to vote blue. Never forget that 75% of the senators/house reps at a minimum are not on Trumps side.
the only bills Rand and Massie will vote yes on are one's that do everything they want and cut all funding to everything immediately. They're completely delusional retards who would rather make 0 progress forever and continue on the path to complete destruction than make any compromises and actually make headway in fixing the most pressing issues facing the country.
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I hope that whatever talks Trump is having w/ Iran leads to a lasting deal, where we don't blindly attack them and that they also don't get nuclear weapons. There clearly is a contingent that wants war with Iran, both in Israel and in the U.S. and I think for that reason nuclear weapons could be a useful deterrent. The pro-war people are not so open about it anymore, since neoconservatism is kind of discredited now, but I still think they basically believe in it still.
 
Tl;dr it wasn't just the Byzantines & Sassanids having exhausted one another that allowed the Muslims to come so far so quickly, but basically a perfect storm of circumstances that fatally divided & weakened classical civilization's remnants from Gothic Spain to the western edges of Afghanistan. Almost a 'crisis of the seventh century' if you will. Also the proud tradition of European elites stretching their subjects' assholes for the Muslims got its start in Spain and really sped up the Muslim conquest there, at least the Egyptians & Syrians had some reason to think that becoming dhimmis would be better than continuing to remain under Byzantine rule at this early juncture (nobody outside of Arabia knew how brutal & repressive Islamic rule could get yet).
Anything once Mu'awiya took power to the full fracturing of the Islamic world can be summed up as "Machiavelli's The Prince made flesh proceeds to dunk on the incompetents around him".

Anything before can be described as a combination of incredible luck against retardedly disorganized opponents.
 
Then why not keep doing sabotage
Because sabotage isn't an infinite resource, they ran out of effective methods for sabotage.


The enrichment line just seems like classic fear mongering.
Why would it be fear mongering when it's clear it's on the way to creating a weapon? Even the IAEA is warning about this and they're very liberal with Iran. If there's no intent to create a weapon, enrichment should max out at 5 percent. Here it's at 60 percent and rising.

We have no business fucking with Iran, that was tucker's point. You act like he's trying to ally with iran, hes not.
He literally justifies Iran having a nuclear weapons program and lies that there's no credible evidence that Iran is trying to create nuclear weapons when they are. What would you call someone who wants Iran (which regularly calls for the destruction of the United States) to have nuclear weapons, especially with their research into ICBMs and their sponsorship of international terrorists like Hamas/Hezbollah?


I wouldn't be shocked if you've claimed he's being paid by Qatar
You mean how the Qatari Embassy paid a PR firm to land its Prime Minister an interview with Tucker Carlson?

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I'm sure he did that just for Omeed Malik.
 
Why would it be fear mongering when it's clear it's on the way to creating a weapon? Even the IAEA is warning about this and they're very liberal with Iran. If there's no intent to create a weapon, enrichment should max out at 5 percent. Here it's at 60 percent and rising.
It’s like you completely forgot that MAD is a thing. Iran will never nuke the US or Israel because they would be instantly obliterated if they tried.
 
NGL this is one of those "They have made their ruling now let them enforce it" moments that I would support.

DeSantis in Florida signed a bill a couple of years ago making child rape eligible for the death penalty, with the expectation it’ll end up before SCOTUS at some point (if there’s a case that gets that far without the perp pleading guilty to get life instead).
 
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It’s like you completely forgot that MAD is a thing. Iran will never nuke the US or Israel because they would be instantly obliterated if they tried.
MAD assumes the other person doesn't want to die. Radical Muslims, especially Shia Muslims, do not mind dying and have a long tradition of suicidal acts that are justified by the 72 virgins. Islam in Iran is dying, the people hate the government, and the mullahs are increasingly unhinged. It's reasonable to assume that they would rather burn it all down rather than lose power.
 
Don't know about you but if Iran ever had the bright idea to nuke the US then we'd be able to at least commit nuclear holocaust along with every other nation that has nukes. If hypothetically Iran develops nukes and decides to nuke say fucking DC, NY, CA, or even for shits and giggles NV then the US hypothetically could level Iran and every single Muslim country would be hating Iran more than any Palestinian or Jew. That's not even getting to the retaliation by the allies of Iran and other attacks by our allies to said allies of Iran. Iran with a nuke will probably be like the Norks except Muslim.

Let's be real invading Iran because some neocon/liberal wants to jack off to some drone footage doesn't help Americans. It'll only help Israel since they'll have to worry one other threat amid their other threats. It'll lead BRICS to respond since any attack on their ally is a attack on them (not to mention the attacks by our allies to said allies) causing WWIII. In fact invading Iran would be just like all of our excursions to the sandpit optimistically speaking otherwise we'll be dealing with WWIII.

MAD assumes the other person doesn't want to die. Radical Muslims, especially Shia Muslims, do not mind dying and have a long tradition of suicidal acts that are justified by the 72 virgins. Islam in Iran is dying, the people hate the government, and the mullahs are increasingly unhinged. It's reasonable to assume that they would rather burn it all down rather than lose power.
If the Mullahs nuked us, there'll be retaliation not only by us but by the same Muslims who are going to be pissed at Iran. In fact Islam in Iran will die faster if they nuked US for being the Great Satan without any other justification.
 
(which regularly calls for the destruction of the United States)

There is the Democratic base at the grass roots which funds and supports people who believe in that.

And yet many of those Anti-Iranian regime Republicans and Democrats were more than happy to destroy America in the traditional well known sense, as soon as that nigger died of fentanyl.
 
Everyone has been shitting on Mark Levin and fair enough, I agree with everyone, but I still have a soft spot for Levin because I always loved hearing him get so fucking pissed off about Democrats live on the radio. I heard him almost have a heart attack a few times, it's so great. I certainly wouldn't listen to a guy like that about going to war with Iran lol
 
This is the ag science equivalent of being a Covid hysteric. Journos are doing what they do best: lying and blowing everything out of proportion.
I wouldn't call it entirely out of proportion. Yes, the "It's a CPC biowarfare program cause she did research on it!" seems ridiculous. But one of things that irks me in the indictment is the FBI claims that the straits she imported are extremely virulent and deadly (This will be a jury question). Plus she did research on similar organisims both in U Mich and University of Texas. There's no way she didn't know that smuggling select agents wasn't a pound me in ass prison issue.

I'm not on the grain side of things, but I'm in Ag. If I smuggled bacterial leaf scortch from the gulf coast, which the strain of it is particularly virurlent and deadly (xylella fastidiosa) into China to "do research on" (It is a prohibited agent) under the guise of other items I'd be looking at the death penalty.

Fox published a denial statement by the Chinese Embassy:
"I don't know the specific situation, but I would like to emphasize that the Chinese government has always required overseas Chinese citizens to abide by local laws and regulations and will also resolutely safeguard their legitimate rights and interests," said Liu Pengyu, spokesperson for the Chinese Embassy
 
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