Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[Sweeter and Savoury]

I hope the district judge enjoys every moment of this idiocy. This all ends up on his plate just because he wanted to tard shield and not toss this shit out like it warrants.

Well eat up judge, Melonhead is just getting warmed up.

On the side...I wonder which Ferrari Hardin will be purchasing with the legal costs Jersh's had to shell out. I hope it red, red is a nice color.

 

[AnOminous]

But since discovery is fucking stayed, it still shouldn't have happened.

Not the clerk's job. The rule says MUST. They get the request, they issue it. Whoever does this probably does it for much of the day and has neither the time nor the duty to read through a case with hundreds of docket entries with a fine tooth comb looking for any reason not to issue it.

They just do it, because it's their job. If this ended up on the Clerk of Court's desk, that clerk would probably know to ask the judge because that clerk handles all the cases on the docket. This is some deputy clerk or assistant doing what they're paid to do.

This is what the clerk HAD to do. Now, that apostrophe on the other hand was unforgivable.

 

[BoomerPrime]

I hope the district judge enjoys every moment of this idiocy. This all ends up on his plate just because he wanted to tard shield and not toss this shit out like it warrants.

Well eat up judge, Melonhead is just getting warmed up.

I wish this Court a million filings if they want to keep up the TardGuard for Greer's bullshit. Hopefully @AnOminous is right and there is low tolerance for more discovery fuckery.

 

[Irene and 22 others]

The Judge likely will go off on Greer for failing to ask courts permission to do this. It's 50/50 whether the Judge will still allow it. Or whether he will be told to explore options other than the defendant.

The judge will deny it and avoid making any kind of decision by telling Russ to refile when the discovery stay is lifted. Unless they have an axe to grind, judges will look for any reason to punt. Expecting the magistrate to go out of his way to be nice to Greer after he just ignored a court order regarding discovery issues is a bridge tard guarded too far.

I doubt it does Greer any good. Josh could be a dick and fight it, or he could just give Greer the email addresses associated with the account which are likely the only information he has. Best of luck to Greer in getting Proton Mail to give him the time of day. I think it looks better for Null if he does just hand over the information without any fanfare or protest because it makes Greer stonewalling for near-on half a year on a document he claimed to possess and would gladly provide look like a complete jackass by comparison.

 

[RodgerDodger]

The judge will deny it and avoid making any kind of decision by telling Russ to refile when the discovery stay is lifted. Unless they have an axe to grind, judges will look for any reason to punt. Expecting the magistrate to go out of his way to be nice to Greer after he just ignored a court order regarding discovery issues is a bridge tard guarded too far.

I doubt it does Greer any good. Josh could be a dick and fight it, or he could just give Greer the email addresses associated with the account which are likely the only information he has. Best of luck to Greer in getting Proton Mail to give him the time of day. I think it looks better for Null if he does just hand over the information without any fanfare or protest because it makes Greer stonewalling for near-on half a year on a document he claimed to possess and would gladly provide look like a complete jackass by comparison.

Isn't the discovery stay dependent on Shitlips serving the new defendants?

 

[obsdj]

I doubt it does Greer any good. Josh could be a dick and fight it, or he could just give Greer the email addresses associated with the account which are likely the only information he has.

Why should Null not fight this every step of the way? Every instance of hand-holding Greer experiences inspires him to demand more, assume more, and appeal more whenever he doesn't get his way. Giving him ANYTHING will have the exact same effect as giving a toy to a screaming spoiled child in the hopes that he'll stop screaming. Spoiler alert: It doesn't work. They just scream for more.

 

[StinkySnack]

Isn't the discovery stay dependent on Shitlips serving the new defendants?

This is not how you serve the defendants.

 

[Terrifik]

Well, lets say that happens, then, and the email provider is protonmail or similar where they don't save identifying info about the account. How far can Moseph get, as far as participating in the lawsuit goes, without ever actually being identified? To me, it looks like there's a very clear path to let someone join this case that is effectively unsanctionable by way of being anonymous.

Is there something you need to tell the class?
Unless given from kindness of their heart.
Issue is as said above null not letting go & null bite set stone IFP status is in Flux .

 

[obsdj]

Isn't the discovery stay dependent on Shitlips serving the new defendants?

No? Again/still, it's pending a ruling on the motion to dismiss.

 

[DavidS877]

Isn't the discovery stay dependent on Shitlips serving the new defendants?

Sort of, maybe.

The motion to dismiss is the laundry list of all the fuckups that should dismiss this case that Mr. Hardin filed in 274.
One of them is:

Footnote 4:

 

[obsdj]

The motion to dismiss is the laundry list of all the fuckups that should dismiss this case that Mr. Hardin filed in 274.

And the motion to dismiss isn't complete; Hardin has until June 30 to reply to Greer's objection, by which time we all (including Hardin) stupidly thought some of the currently-open other matters would have been resolved. He has more material to put forth, including the whole IFP fraud business, which has not been officially raised in a motion yet.

 

[mindlessobserver]

I've lost count. With the breach of the discovery stay, how many orders of the court is Mister Greee not in compliance with?

We have breach of discovery, failure to provide the restraining order documents, failure to accurately list all the trials Greee has been involved with. Anything else?

 

[Prokhor Zakharov]

Since IP addresses are only stored by requirement for 30 days, if the two users haven't been here in 30 days, and if the two users mentioned aren't retarded, the e-mail addresses belong to an anonymous e-mail service that is unique to the farms, Null will literally have 0 information of any use to give Crusty Rusty.

 

[DavidS877]

I've lost count. With the breach of the discovery stay, how many orders of the court is Mister Greee not in compliance with?

We have breach of discovery, failure to provide the restraining order documents, failure to accurately list all the trials Greee has been involved with. Anything else?

As of next week, failure to pay sanctions.

 

[Wahgonga]

I doubt it does Greer any good. Josh could be a dick and fight it, or he could just give Greer the email addresses associated with the account which are likely the only information he has.

Russ has stalked and harassed women for years because they simply gave him a single "like" or a "smile" in online forums.

You never willingly give Russell Greer anything.

 

[GaryGray]

As of next week, failure to pay sanctions.
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The real question is what will happen first?

1. The judge or judges will issue on:
   1. Greer's request to reduce sanction to a 10% bond
   2. Greer's request not to produce the documents which were due June 3rd
   3. Greer's attempt to issue a subpoena despite the stayed Discovery
2. The deadline for the sanction payment will pass in which Greer will not pay
3. Greer pays the sanction

1.
2.
3.

 

[lol cow supreme]

I'm just amazed Greer is such a svelt legal mind he was able to maneuver the court to allow adding new defendants beyond the statue of limitations. Who else can he add to this lawsuit? The Hof estate?

Or is this subpoena a ploy to try t get the coveted slobbermut hovel dox? He did begin with "what address can I use or can I do it through you". Fishing for Joshy's pizza delivery info.

 

[DavidS877]

The real question is what will happen first?

1. The judge or judges will issue on:
   1. Greer's request to reduce sanction to a 10% bond
   2. Greer's request not to produce the documents which were due June 3rd
   3. Greer's attempt to issue a subpoena despite the stayed Discovery
2. The deadline for the sanction payment will pass in which Greer will not pay
3. Greer pays the sanction

1.
2.
3.

But the judge already ruled on #1, both judges in fact. The Magistrate Judge said "I can't do that, it's a District Court Judge Order". The District Court Judge said "Hah, no. Due June 9, 2025"

 

[TurboNAS]

Discovery stay aside, is this even the proper vehicle to try and identify Russtard and Martelli?

As it's Greee we're talking about, I'm assuming not.

Where else would he go? He’s a one man operation and doesn’t have a team of rabid autists to look up details.

Is there any way he could ever get the ability to file things to the docket, purely to fill it with pictures of Hitler, without ever revealing a name or address that can be verified?

In the Patrick Tomlinson case against Quasi, Quasi hired a lawyer and all communications went through them. That kept Quasi anonymous during the lawsuit. But he didn’t try to troll the docket with garbage and frankly that’s a terrible idea. You aren’t likely to get electronic filing access as a pro se defendant if you don’t voluntarily unmask yourself.

 

[qewretrytuyiuoipop]

Forgive my question if it’s stupid - but is there any mechanism to have this matter relisted before the magistrate/judge, or do the parties just have to wait for the magistrate/judge to decide to do something?

For context, in most Australian jurisdictions, parties have liberty to restore the matter for a mention before the magistrate/registrar/judge with two/three days notice, so shit can be dealt with. It seems so chaotic that the amount of filings and disputes can occur on a matter seemingly in perpetuity without any clue as to when it might be handled?! Seems so inefficient.