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[Itchy Hemorrhoids]

Quality eats are everywhere if you have a vehicle in the United States, too. You could eat McDonald's or Chester's from a truck stop, but unless you're out in the middle of nowhere, you can find quality restaurants in the cities within a mile or two of the freeway.

That's not in dispute. I was saying Europeans like cars just as much as Americans do.

 

[quaawaa]

Streetcraft made an extremely forced video about turning every path in Disney World into a road:

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They really can't meme. Disney World already has car access to every park yet doesn't look like an urbanist's caricature of a suburb.

 

[BulkForceFive]

One of his viewers assumed it was a ripoff channel using his AI voice:

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holy fuckin lmaooooo

"Check out this ripoff channel with a gay computer voice!"
"Uh actually that's me"

 

[FILTH Tourist]

They really can't meme.

Even in their joke video they use too many words, the gimmick didn't warrant 12 fucking minutes. Also he was trying to be "educational" about city building practices and regulations, but is purposefully being obtuse and avoiding actual solutions that cities use to solve problems created by road infrastructure like the cross walks along main steert could have easily became pedestrian bridges/tunnels to allow pedestrian to cross safely.

Disney World already has car access to every park yet doesn't look like an urbanist's caricature of a suburb.

Here is a fun bit of Disney lore. There is already a town built using Disneyland as a model, Lake Havasu in Arazona. The lead designer for the original Disnyland, C V Wood, would also be the lead designer for the town and as a result incorporated some stuff he learned while working at Disney. Urbanists would absolutely hate it because it is a very car centric suburban city due to the different demands, challenges, and budgets of designing a California theme park vs a desert town.

 

[Eventide]

My university had many international students, and one of the most common questions I got from some were "Why aren't they being arrested?" "If this happened where I'm from, the whole place would come together and drive them out" and I think one even said a caning would happened if that happened where he lived. I can understand how jarring it was as the university was in a soft on crime city. As much I do defend the US, I do absolutely agree we need to be much tougher everywhere on crime. Even in the areas that are "tough on crime" but that puts me on the fringe.

I think that is a common sentiment among wealthy/upper class foreign ex-pats living within the United States. My ex was from Dubai, and she was quite liberal (especially being a lesbian - homosexuality being forbidden in nearly all Middle Eastern countries). However, when it came to America's lax response to crime, she thought the Middle East had the right idea. I.e. public flogging, harsh criminal sentences, chopping hands off, etc. Like, she didn't understand why petty crime exists in major American cities/is just accepted as a fact of life. In Dubai you can leave your bike on a rack (unlocked), or your laptop at a table while getting a coffee - and nothing will be stolen.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

Nah, favelas are too space inefficient and sprawl out like suburbs. What they want is something like Kowloon City, but gentrified so it is safe and trendy to live there. Seriously it would be such an easy pitch because it lines up with their ideals and values. Everyone lives in pods to maximize residential density, every nook and cranny has a shops, services, amenities, and common areas so it is all walkable and there for very convenient. Also because the community is so dense it would be hard for police and other agencies to adequately enforce so that is another plus for the ACAB crowd.

The problem with KWC worship is fundamentally misunderstanding it. It's more complicated to determine with rates of inflation, but glancing over daily wages for factory wages indicates that working in industry was worth about $30 HKD, but if the rent was $35 HKD a month that would mean the people living there were far poorer than what you'd make in the factories, and I'm pretty sure that the people in those apartments didn't have an enormous disposable income at their discretion.

I can imagine the "too dense to police" argument being used but don't forget these faggots used the arguments that low density makes it harder for police and fire to work effectively.

One of his viewers assumed it was a ripoff channel using his AI voice:

I know his fans aren't the brightest people in the bunch but imagined having a voice so stilted and unnatural that the real thing sounds AI generated.

They really can't meme. Disney World already has car access to every park yet doesn't look like an urbanist's caricature of a suburb.

Using theme parks as a "model" for a "walkable" city is already a tell for a complete retard but Disney theme parks already have an extensive logistics system with the "utilidor" system. At this point, it's well-known and relatively well-documented (though wandering around down there is basically a permaban from the parks), and as you can imagine makes things far more expensive than any other system that relies on normal truck docks, especially as the tunnels generally aren't accessible to normal vehicles either. (The logistics issue is one actual reason why items in Disney theme parks are hideously overpriced).

Even in their joke video they use too many words, the gimmick didn't warrant 12 fucking minutes. Also he was trying to be "educational" about city building practices and regulations, but is purposefully being obtuse and avoiding actual solutions that cities use to solve problems created by road infrastructure like the cross walks along main steert could have easily became pedestrian bridges/tunnels to allow pedestrian to cross safely.

Also I can tell from the thumbnails that nothing is drawn to scale, which you'd think would be basically the point.

 

[S.C.U.D.]

Incidentally this most recent one was written by Andrew Orvedahl. Never heard of him but I can't think anything remotely positive about someone who names their kid Jupiter.

Funnily enough there's another lolcow who named one of his kids Jupiter.

 

[Scientifically Inaccurate]

Streetcraft made an extremely forced video about turning every path in Disney World into a road:

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They really can't meme. Disney World already has car access to every park yet doesn't look like an urbanist's caricature of a suburb.

The funny part of this is the bottom right corner of the Animal Kingdom one; that area is supposed to look like an American town, so the park actually has a fake road cutting through the middle of that it already (or, had, this is a bit outdated), but his fake roads ignore that and decide to cut through the roadside carnival area beside it instead.

The green building he highlights when he says "unique shops" is in that area and made to look like a former gas station. There were parking spaces with cars in them next to it at one point.

 

[Eternal Gopnik]

Earlier today (well, yesterday now, in my timezone) I took a train on a trip that was supposed to be 2.5 hours. We left on time, but then about 1:45 later we (and everyone else on the same route) spent 95 minutes waiting at some random station in the middle of nowhere because some drunk hobo decided to cross the tracks where trains go 100 mph and the obvious thing happened. Apparently cleaning that up is more complicated than power-washing the retard-burger off.

If drove instead, then even if I had to divert through some rural roads, at least I'd still be moving and in control of my own situation. I could stop at some rural restaurant and got some nice food, or I could pull off the road and take a nap, or I could drive the car into a ditch and kill myself, or anything - just any kind of actual conscious action. Instead all I could do was to just sit there seething, and reading the idubbbz thread I guess.

 

[quaawaa]

Jason thinks that everyone who disagrees with him is American:

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[The Jewel of the Nile]

Jason thinks that everyone who disagrees with him is American:

So this is how my european self gets an US citizenship and a pickup car, huh?
Also lol at euros preferring Mastodon. We like the same shit that everyone else does, including social media sites

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Apparently cleaning that up is more complicated than power-washing the retard-burger off.

This is a big dirty secret that's never mentioned.

In the USA any injury or death caussd by the train hitting someone is automatically an NTSB investigation so it is treated as serious, with full cops and investigators and everything.

Worst case that entire line iss down for hours, stopping all trains (if the train is blocking the track) - best case they get to move the train to a siding/station so others can go by.

And even if they don't hit anyone, but the train has to go into emergency because they saw a fucker on or near the tracks, they have to stop and the conductor has to check for body parts and blood on the entire train. Fucking 20 minutes delay right there.

The law needs to change to "if the train hits someone, it operates as normal and is washed once taken out of service."

 

[Eternal Gopnik]

This is a big dirty secret that's never mentioned.

In the USA any injury or death caussd by the train hitting someone is automatically an NTSB investigation so it is treated as serious, with full cops and investigators and everything.

Worst case that entire line iss down for hours, stopping all trains (if the train is blocking the track) - best case they get to move the train to a siding/station so others can go by.

And even if they don't hit anyone, but the train has to go into emergency because they saw a fucker on or near the tracks, they have to stop and the conductor has to check for body parts and blood on the entire train. Fucking 20 minutes delay right there.

The law needs to change to "if the train hits someone, it operates as normal and is washed once taken out of service."

Yeah. This retard getting gibbed was on the busiest train route in the country, it's between the two biggest cities. It wasn't just me getting stuck - apparently the incident was reported at 3:15 PM, and it was cleared at about 6:45, so it stopped all traffic for 3.5 hours. There were a few hundred people on my train, and it must have fucked up at least a dozen trains like this. The emergency services don't particluarly care about throughput, it's not their problem, but they really need to have it drilled into their heads that they need to reestablish service ASAP.

I have to admit, though, the main reason I'm mad about the incident is that I kinda fucked myself. The train had food service, but I kept ignoring the menu because I thought it would be insanely overpriced like airline food is. But after getting stuck for over an hour, I finally reached for the menu, and holy fucking shit, the meals were cheaper than frozen shit at a supermarket - like 1 EUR ham and cheese croissant, or a 4 EUR full meal, or 1 EUR Pilsner Urquell. By the time I found out, we were already starting to move again so it was a bit too late to order anything.

 

[Lovely Kin]

Jason thinks that everyone who disagrees with him is American:

It's literally the "WHAT ABOUT AMERICA" meme. He even hates his American fans too because the US lives rent free in his mind

 

[Itchy Hemorrhoids]

It's literally the "WHAT ABOUT AMERICA" meme. He even hates his American fans too because the US lives rent free in his mind

It always comes back to this. Most leftist groups are just decorations for their self-hatred and/or hatred of the US.

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

Commieblocks were good for their original purpose: Quickly building affordable housing in a war torn country and getting a roof above as many people's heads as possible. You have to keep in mind that the alternative to these apartments was far worse and for a quickly industrializing country, these were very modern to the average person. Sure, a bunch of single family homes in a giant suburb environment would absolutely be great, but this is a post WW2 european country that had a fuckton of people to accomodate for, building that would take too long and they needed living spaces ASAP. I think for the purpose of providing a home to every citizen, they are fine, but the issue is pretending that these are a great standard for housing, they are not.

It's not even a cheap way of building mass construction. The cylinders actually done prefabricated stuff. If one or two things go wrong, anywhere on the chain, you have a bunch of wasted material you cannot reuse. If we have some split two by fours, we can use them in other places.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

That was the biggest redpill about the Tenement Museum in NYC. All of the old photos show immaculately clean buildings despite the tenants being extremely poor yet this is what it looks like today with residents orders of magnitude wealthier

I touched on this a bit in my Cincinnati apartments bit (I picked Cincinnati since I felt that something like Texas and California would be a poisoned choice, plus I did it to obfuscate my location). In those days, not only did apartments have some sort of contrived theme, apartments could be choosier about who their tenants were—even in the 1970s you could have an "adults only" community, meaning you could tailor the apartment appropriately, no need to have a children's playground or advertise being near schools, and because of this it also meant you could cut out the problems of Shaniqua and Juanita and her five children being problems.

It was a good solution--you can build a community by having things in common, you could cut out needless expenses, and you don't even need to exclude non-whites. Unfortunately, at some point in the 1980s the law (Civil Rights Act rears its head again) was amended that pregnancy and having children were considered to be "discriminatory" and you couldn't have adult-only apartments anymore.

This is why modern apartment complexes are a hellscape now. The average 5-over-1 and preferred bugman housing (it's often used in apartment redevelopment) is some painted box named "The [noun]" and while some traditional apartment complexes (built in the last 10-15 years) have clubhouses and scheduled events, they can't really specialize in anything, so it just becomes indistinguishable mush with people who have little in common with each other other than they live at the same apartment complex. There's nothing to brag about except stock photographs of "diverse"-looking "happy" people.

Meanwhile, 65+ communities can exist (since age isn't a factor in these anti-discrimination laws), have a calendar chock full of events, and residents get along with each other since they're similar age. (Off-campus college apartments exist with the same purpose.)

This is a point where modern liberalism overrides urbanism ideals. By all means, bugmen would enjoy the apartment complexes of old (if placed next to a transit line, at least), where they could enjoy a world without children and go to the apartment clubhouse (pretty sure that every weekend the bar was open for residents) to find other people around their age to hook up with. But they don't.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

I have to admit, though, the main reason I'm mad about the incident is that I kinda fucked myself. The train had food service, but I kept ignoring the menu because I thought it would be insanely overpriced like airline food is. But after getting stuck for over an hour, I finally reached for the menu, and holy fucking shit, the meals were cheaper than frozen shit at a supermarket - like 1 EUR ham and cheese croissant, or a 4 EUR full meal, or 1 EUR Pilsner Urquell. By the time I found out, we were already starting to move again so it was a bit too late to order anything.

one thing I'll give the trains that sell food; they sell it for decent prices. Not super cheap, but not like football game.

Meanwhile, 65+ communities can exist (since age isn't a factor in these anti-discrimination laws), have a calendar chock full of events, and residents get along with each other since they're similar age. (Off-campus college apartments exist with the same purpose.)

Ironically, bugmen are huge on anti-racism and discrimination, but removing those laws from housing would help advance urbanism.

You'd have niggerhouses that only allow gangbangers; but you'd also have apartments that only allow ... bugmen. Or complexes that only allow Christian families, or only middle-class working black families (with both parents). It would actually be kinda amazing.

 

[BulkForceFive]

We left on time, but then about 1:45 later we (and everyone else on the same route) spent 95 minutes waiting at some random station in the middle of nowhere because some drunk hobo decided to cross the tracks where trains go 100 mph and the obvious thing happened.

The train had food service, but I kept ignoring the menu because I thought it would be insanely overpriced like airline food is.

PLUS, if you'd been driving yourself and you hit a hobo, well... there's at least forty pounds of free meat right there, once you take the guts and bones out!

 

[Xarpho's Return]

one thing I'll give the trains that sell food; they sell it for decent prices. Not super cheap, but not like football game.

I've never criticized train food as having exorbitant prices (food at train stations, well...) it's just a very limited menu of some very average food, but train-worshippers will take the same chicken caesar wrap you can find at QuikTrip and think it's the greatest thing ever, but then if it's sold at a gas station it's unhealthy slop.

Ironically, bugmen are huge on anti-racism and discrimination, but removing those laws from housing would help advance urbanism.

Bugmen aren't really "huge" on that, either they're liberal and it comes with the total package, or it's just whatever the mass media is big on at the moment. As globohomo has pumped the brakes on Pride Month they aren't into it as much either.

You'd have niggerhouses that only allow gangbangers; but you'd also have apartments that only allow ... bugmen. Or complexes that only allow Christian families, or only middle-class working black families (with both parents). It would actually be kinda amazing.

I can imagine that that would be great but it could also lead to problems getting turbo-fucked when nobody rents to you because you're a white male. Then again, given the games that landlords play these days there isn't much difference.

I still think a ban on children (or a "child fee" to discourage bringing in 3-5 kids to what is a two-bedroom apartment) should be a landlord's decision, what counts as "not enough apartments for families" should be with the local planning board. (When it comes to the brass tacks, urbanists try to backtrack on their "build whatever" statements).

It's still telling that bugmen talk up how interesting Europe is and decry American suburbia, but then settle for the most boring, soulless apartments imaginable.