Community Munchausen's by Internet (Malingerers, Munchies, Spoonies, etc) - Feigning Illnesses for Attention

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I gotta say Tilly's historical diagnoses and quackery really, really scratched the itch for me and now I just want people to fake all the historically significant diseases that have been eradicated or nearly so in the developed world.

Imagine some anorexic tit foaming at the mouth and pushing food and drink away in a hospital bed trying to prove she has rabies.
God I'd kill for a munchie faking smallpox. Or bubonic plague. Or Cotard's Syndrome. Come on girls, the POTS/EDS/MCAS combo is passe. Why don't you fake Fournier's Gangrene? No one's tried that before and you'll be the most speshul sick waif on the whole of Instagram.
 
Still, I guess they can pretend to have the Plague of Justinian, nobody's entirely sure what that actually was so they can pretend it's whatever they want.
Encephalitis lethargica is a good one. No one's quite sure what caused it and it came and went so long ago that there was never any real diagnostic testing developed. It's widely considered a post-viral syndrome that cropped up in the years during and after the Spanish Flu so it fits with the long covid crowd. The symptoms are extreme fatigue/sleeping for days, neurological symptoms that honestly look faked, and in young people especially, behavior changes.

Specifically, in girls especially, it tended to cause behavior changes that strongly resemble a certain three letter acronym they don't want you to mention. They became emotionally unstable, moody, manipulative, promiscuous, impulsive, and attention-seeking. Some also showed compulsive self-mutilation, sometimes to Ronahan extremes. There's a journal article written about a young girl whose parents called the doctor to her home because one of her eyes had "fallen out" of her head. While the doctor was examining her she calmly reached up and plucked the other eye out of her head. She reported having a sudden and completely irresistible urge to do this. Other girls reportedly started pulling or chiseling their teeth out with tools, again, calmly and with no warning, reporting that they felt they absolutely had to do it. So any time a doctor thought these girls were draining blood out of their ports or interfering with wound healing all they'd have to do is say it was an irresistible urge from their Encephalitis Lethargica, meanie ableist.

And importantly, they never got better. New neurological symptoms could crop up years or even decades after the disease was gone or change without warning. Perfect for when their fake seizures are growing old and they need to try on a dystonic contracture for size.

Personally I would love to see more porphyria munchies.
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I have her whole account backed up but she's not a prolific poster. Most of her claims are standard: teen girl convinces her parents that her obvious eating disorder is actually gastroparesis but doesn't want to run tube feeds so actually it's MALS and other compression syndromes but then she got that surgery and wait wait wait now it's intestinal failure from EDS and she can't run TPN because of her mast cell disease. Her only other real funny ha-ha was in 2023 she claimed a sudden transient bout of cystic fibrosis. Don't you just hate it when you wake up one day and have an incurable genetic mutation that is universally fatal without treatment? (No she was not a CF kid who is bratting out because in a post-Trikafta era that's not special anymore. She reported a totally normal childhood with no medical issues.)
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(And yes, they know about each other. Grace went to the good doc in Germany too.)
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All this talk of old school diseases made me think of the Bills of Mortality they used to keep in London. They have some great causes of death listed.

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There’s also a great Podcast called This Podcast Will Kill You that goes through all sorts of fascinating modern and historical ailments, including an episode @Kate Farms Shill on Encephalitis Lethargica

A note on EDS folks - I have only ever met one person who I genuinely believe had some form of EDS. It was a kid in my primary school who, bless him, already had it tough as he was the son of a real bitch of a teacher. Anyway, he used to do this with his hands all the time:

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This was the best picture I could find, but in my memory his were even bendier. He was like a young Mr Fantastic / Human Pretzel.
 
Would it be relevant to the kitchen staff or is that a different system? I feel like it would make more sense to have a band specifically for medication/medical allergies and let the kitchen deal with the shellfish issue.
I worked in a hospital kitchen. From personal experience, allergy information was conveyed as such:
> the nutrition manager would get the list of all the orders and any flagged with allergies would be looked over. If it was an allergy that wasn't contamination based (ex: can't have say, tomatoes) it'd just be made like any other.
> if the patient did have a severe contaminant allergy (peanuts, celiac, etc) there was a special set of tools used for it.
This was only for room service orders btw. Everything in the cafeteria had risk of contamination, but obviously we didn't often have risk to begin with.
 
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Sad Walrus keeps popping on up as ”peopld you might know” on my facebook. Which is wild because shes dead and we have nothing in common on fb or any mutuals. Its just a weird situation.
It could be insta related, there is a dead person I followed (she had lymphoma, not a munchie) who keeps popping up on my people you may know and we had no connections.
 
All this talk of old school diseases made me think of the Bills of Mortality they used to keep in London. They have some great causes of death listed.

Bills of Mortality Wiki intro

Folger Shakespeare Library Article

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There’s also a great Podcast called This Podcast Will Kill You that goes through all sorts of fascinating modern and historical ailments, including an episode @Kate Farms Shill on Encephalitis Lethargica

A note on EDS folks - I have only ever met one person who I genuinely believe had some form of EDS. It was a kid in my primary school who, bless him, already had it tough as he was the son of a real bitch of a teacher. Anyway, he used to do this with his hands all the time:

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This was the best picture I could find, but in my memory his were even bendier. He was like a young Mr Fantastic / Human Pretzel.
I knew a lot of kids who could do that growing up, me included. Now i feel weird.
 
Can you post a link? Thank you 😊
The thread itself was sadly deleted. @NoReturn got the original post through Google cage.
Totally agree about there being social contagion issues with both of those and I can understand the hesitancy to believe. Honestly, for any of us former or current medfags and farmers, hopefully some more of these genes get nailed down for some of these things and people can move on to more interesting things to fake. I’m really fucking tired of these zebra bitches who mostly either need better PT and strength training or a psych evaluation, and not for autism. Fucking hell, let’s see some more rage baiters like Emma who fake things like Down Syndrome or deafness. You know what, fuck that, I wanna see someone try to fake progeria or culler Jones. Can you imagine trying to fake polydactyly?
Do you have anything to back up the link between autism and eds?
A lot of Munchies claim a link between eds and compression syndromes and that seems to all go back to an article by Dr.Sandmann, who just says that a lot of his patients also claim to have eds. So this thread has taught me to be quite suspicious even if a doctor made a claim in some form.
I have her whole account backed up but she's not a prolific poster.
That's kind of my problem with a lot of the German Munchies. There are a lot of obvious accounts that have like 10 posts. Most of the really prolific, interesting munchies are either private, or constantly delete their old accounts, once they get enough pushback. I honestly don't know how you manage to do it! I get so frustrated whenever I hear all the unverified insane stuff, that I just can't get myself to care about the incredibly boring ones who actually post...
It's also really funny, that the whole compression syndrome crowd is mostly its own little universe. They all comment on each others posts, but there is very little overlap with the generic eds crowd. Like I said in a previous post: it's very obvious, that even the Munchies know how fake this is, and how the surgeries could actually make them be disabled.
 
Tell us more. Do you see fakers often?
No, not often at all. It was more common when I was working in a hospital with inpatient and ER patients. In outpatient I haven't seen it much yet. I really just spend all day correcting orders the front desk makes and dealing with patients who insist I give them the results of their non-emergent imaging immediately even though I've said "I'm not a doctor, I cannot legally diagnose you" a hundred times. I did have a patient last week who kept coming in for the same exam for the same benign issue every 6 months like she couldn't fathom that we're not seeing some big, life-threatening issue the first two times.

I will tell you something though, those full-body CT scans people are getting now for 'prevention' are going to ruin the medical field (even more than it's already fucked up). I cannot count the amount of people I have come in after one of those for benign bullshit. They're taking up appointments with doctors and slots in an imaging facility to confirm that they do indeed have a benign ass renal cyst or some other bullshit. People getting these and overreacting are going to clog up the medical system more and more as the scans get more common. I'm honestly shocked I haven't seen a munchie try to get one before to find some new potential disgnosis to chimp about.
 
I honestly don't know how you manage to do it!
I guess it's just what historians do. Most of the information you can find on any given person is very mundane and fragmented and from that you have to try to make an interesting whole.

A note on EDS folks - I have only ever met one person who I genuinely believe had some form of EDS. It was a kid in my primary school who, bless him, already had it tough as he was the son of a real bitch of a teacher. Anyway, he used to do this with his hands all the time:

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This was the best picture I could find, but in my memory his were even bendier. He was like a young Mr Fantastic / Human Pretzel.
...this was like the "secret hand signal" for my little no-boys-allowed club when I was a kid because we all could do it. Just because you've only seen it demonstrated once does not mean it's rare.
 
Schizophrenia is a condition of hyper-creativity, of your brain making incorrect connections, that you'd have to be a world-class freestyle battle rapper or something to be able to think quick enough to pull off the rambling-but-connected stream of consciousness associated with the condition, and the switching from subject to subject at lightning speed in a way that only works with a very peculiarly distinctive way of thinking.
old ass post but... Kanye, anyone?
 
”Some of us carry canes for self defense” - I spit out my drink laughing when I read that. Imagine being attacked by a stoned sedentary 300 lbs they/them with the reflexes of a sloth wielding a mobility cane. You’d be in the next county before any ”self defense” could happen.
All I can imagine is some mugger getting mad and taking the cane from them and smacking them senseless.
 
I knew a lot of kids who could do that growing up, me included. Now i feel weird.
Myself and a small group of kids on my bus ride to school would do this cause it weirded other people out, I don't think this particular thing is an indicator of anything other than being slightly more flexible than normal.
 
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