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Ernest Tomlinson / Pnictogen Wing / The Pnictogen System / Chara Dreemurr / Kara Dreamer / monophylos / Chelydros / Undertale LARPer - Unemployed middle-aged Communist furry lunatic troon acid casualty whose headmates include videogame characters and his own dead brother, "Undertale Swapped My Gender"
If he were still on Bluesky or Twitter, there's a tiny chance he'd reach Wallace Shawn, but now that he's off in the backwaters he has to switch that @ for an #. Tragic.
This crop of posts is a good illustration that Ernest isn't uncovering a web of conspiracy and meaning--it's just that whatever he happens to be listening to/watching automatically gets rolled into the story.
I predict he'll remember the film Defending Your Life (1991) soon, since he's off the "people named Phil" kick.
Alyx may have solved the mystery of Linus Pauling's heptazine in about ten minutes. You may think you know of Pauling as one of the greatest and most honored scientists of all time, but he was actually just a "#Caltech chemist who died in disgrace."
Yeah, this is baffling. The only thing I could think of is that Pauling was a hypothetical eugenics supporter (in the "don't pass on heritable diseases" sense not the murder/sterilization sense) or his Vitamin C kick, but he did so much good work that those are just blips.
Salo.
#system #trauma.
The #StockMarket.
Numerology.
Steam.
#Linux.
A slippery headmate. (Clip is the restaurant scene from Sweet Smell of Success.)
Sir Mordred.
Saving chess from #MagnusCarlsen and the ghost of #BobbyFischer.
Brianna Wu.
Nora Reed.
Gneech.
Humor.
It's just bad writing to have one of your characters make a malapropism that cleverly reveals something about themselves... and when none of the other players notice it, puppeting your other character into explicitly pointing it out.
Hey, wait, "RL dad." Isn't "Chara" the "host personality," i.e. RL Ernest? And now he's bursting into a post by a "headmate" to add his own anecdote.
Juggling multiple characters posting simultaneously, replying to each other in a way they weren't doing on BlueSky, has him getting perilously close to revealing this is all RP.
I think he's talking about his own actual dad, Patrick Keith Tomlinson. He was a member of the Inter-American Tropical Tuna Commission (PDF link). Elder Tuna. It all ties in together.
I think he's talking about his own actual dad, Patrick Keith Tomlinson. He was a member of the Inter-American Tropical Tuna Commission (PDF link). Elder Tuna. It all ties in together.
That's what I assumed too, but what I meant to highlight is: "REAL LIFE dad."
He broke character!
If he'd said "the flesh body's dad," or "the meatspace dad" or even "our bio-dad," it'd still work with the half-dozen video game characters in Ernest's head also being totally real. But he messed up.
If he'd said "the flesh body's dad," or "the meatspace dad" or even "our bio-dad," it'd still work with the half-dozen video game characters in Ernest's head also being totally real. But he messed up.
Juggling multiple characters posting simultaneously, replying to each other in a way they weren't doing on BlueSky, has him getting perilously close to revealing this is all RP.
The way Ernest plays his flavor of DID, I think he means to use the various headmates as a way to cope with and express his "trauma" (either from drugs, or maybe abuse). He might admit that too, if challenged. Pretending to be characters from a game released when he was 40, and then pretending to have them have conversations with each other, sometimes in the same post, isn't yr textbook multiple personality disorder. So he'd probably agree that he is playacting, but for a reason.
Pretending to be characters from a game released when he was 40, and then pretending to have them have conversations with each other, sometimes in the same post, isn't yr textbook multiple personality disorder. So he'd probably agree that he is playacting, but for a reason.
Man, the (goofball) acceptance of "plurals," "fic/factives" and "non-traumatic DID" have really muddied the waters of pretending to have MPD online.
I didn't mean that I thought Ernest has real DID (or anything like it), just that you never see any of the other DID LARPers readily admit it's not real. The "plural" thing, IIRC, is a dodge to explain why you're only half-assing DID and how come you're functional, and how if someone tells YouPrime something then all the vampires and anime characters know it too so people don't have to repeat themselves.
Even Lou, who gives up on things the second they require effort, ended things with his public "we took Ace out behind the barn and shot her" the same way you'd tell the kids they just missed the Easter Bunny hopping away. It would have been way easier to say "((mun here; retiring the 'Ace' character after this arc))."
It was just interesting to me. Ernest put a lot of time into that giant word vomit of origin story, setting up different accounts, keeping his stories straight, and then whoops he throws that in there.
I had a look at some DID stuff online and am more confused than before. Ernest currently says he's "a big DID plural system," hosting "a large number of fictive and factive introjects."
One definition of introjects.
From the Discussing Dissociation site.
This is from different site.
That's me told.
Pnictogen gave two shout-outs to Lou, the first time we've seen them interact in a while IIRC.
A picture of Ernest's lair.
None of his introjects can do any cleaning, or repair a drawer, evidently.
Ernest talked about the "mental breakdown" of recent weeks.
He also sperged about Alan Turing and George Orwell.
Alyx joins in to tell us that "mainstream U.S. #chemistry education is pure shite."
All roads lead back to C. S. Lewis.
Jesus what a filth-encrusted hovel. Why do troons and genderweirds live in fetid trash heaps? Is it because they're all just slovenly males?
And Lou has never provided a nanosecond of "spiritual support" to anyone in his life. He's one of the most selfish people we cover on the site. What I think he means is that Lou tolerates him. Not many people do. It's the same reason Lou counts Ernest as a friend - Ernest is so insane and dysfunctional that he overlooks what a huge piece of shit Lou is. Otherwise, aside from being furries and troons, they don't have much in common. Ernest fancies himself an intellectual, Lou is one of the most stupid and ignorant people on Earth. There's an exchange in the OP where, in response to Ernest's usual chuntering about C.S. Lewis and Tolkien (of which I guarantee Lou did not understand a single word), Lou claimed to have read the Silmarillion five times, which is a hilariously obvious lie even by Lou's standards - I would be surprised if Lou has even attempted to read The Hobbit. But Ernest said "wow, you're way ahead of me" or something along those lines. Now if it was anyone else who claimed that, Ernest would have ripped into them like a neckbeard grilling a girl in a Metallica shirt about deep album cuts. But what I don't know is whether:
a) Ernest is so self-absorbed he genuinely hasn't realised what a dunce (and massive liar) Lou is
b) Ernest is humouring Lou because he's one of the very few people, even on hugboxes like Bluesky and Mastodon, who tolerates him
c) Ernest is humouring Lou because having complete idiots around him makes him feel smarter and don't threaten his massive insecurity about his intellect.
d) Ernest cares so little about Lou he forgets who he is and that there's no way he could even pronounce "Silmarillion", let alone read the book
e) Ernest is so completely insane he thinks Lou is some kind of savant and mistakes his idiotic pronouncements as profundity
f) Ernest is such a severe contrarian that he has decided Lou is a really great person specifically because everyone else hates him so much
Why Lou tolerates Ernest is more obvious - Ernest (for one or more of the reasons above) looks past what an abusive piece of shit Lou is and sticks around, and for someone as downright poisonous as Lou that makes Ernest almost his soulmate. Plus Ernest retweets Lou's begposts, and not many people do that these days.
Obviously dysfunctional furry losers like Nitrofox and Fuggalope are friends with Lou because they have no self-esteem and mistake abuse for affection. But Ernest is not short of self-esteem. In fact he has so much ego he has to share it between 20-ish different characters. But Ernest lets a LOT of Lou's bullshit slide which you think would set him off - Lou's zero-effort Multiple System LARP, his politics (whilst they're broadly on the same page it's common for Ernest to savage other leftists over tiny differences in dogma), his total lack of learning and comprehension of pretty much anything, and of course what a mean-spirited selfish bully Lou is. Ernest has sent people death threats over less. Yet he sticks with Lou. It is a mystery.
It's all about ethics in pretending to be six video game characters online.
Computer-based leftists or lit/film scholars occasionally argue with Ernest about his crackpot takes, but there's an economy of belief with the "plural" the same way there is with the therians etc. No goofball who also pretends to be a half-dozen different personalities can fight with Ernest about being unbelievable, because it's inherently unbelievable and they're all faking it. Probably faking it for a variety of reasons, but if one of them starts poking holes in another's rationalization, then it's going to be like a stock market crash of MPD fanfiction LARP belief.
his politics (whilst they're broadly on the same page it's common for Ernest to savage other leftists over tiny differences in dogma), his total lack of learning and comprehension of pretty much anything, and of course what a mean-spirited selfish bully Lou is. Ernest has sent people death threats over less. Yet he sticks with Lou. It is a mystery.
This is the part that's strange to me too. Lou is mean, and Ernest likes to write as though he's calm and a wise old elder--and then jump in savagely on a tiny mistake or difference in opinion. And not always on politics; he sperged out at length on that person who didn't like a movie Ernest did like. But we've seen a lot of times when Lou was gearing up for a rage-delete, Ernest posted in a chiding mom-type voice telling Lou to calm down.
There's definitely a difference in tone between when Ernest is talking to people he knows, picking fights with randos, and typing into the void about #caltech and #film_directors.
there's an economy of belief with the "plural" the same way there is with the therians etc. No goofball who also pretends to be a half-dozen different personalities can fight with Ernest about being unbelievable, because it's inherently unbelievable and they're all faking it. Probably faking it for a variety of reasons, but if one of them starts poking holes in another's rationalization, then it's going to be like a stock market crash of MPD fanfiction LARP belief.
Yes, although I expected there would be firmer rules of the game. It does make Lou's fuck-up, when he lashed out, tried to blame an alt for it and then killed them off, and got a savage call-out from the Bluesky plural community for his troubles, all the funnier.
What I think he means is that Lou tolerates him. Not many people do. It's the same reason Lou counts Ernest as a friend - Ernest is so insane and dysfunctional that he overlooks what a huge piece of shit Lou is.
I think Lou probably indulges Ernest's role-playing in private chats from time to time, so Ernest can treat him as a sounding board, someone who'll tell Chara that his latest brainwave is so very smart, praise Alyx's newest discovery without asking any awkward questions, and mew at Kel when he's frightened. Much of what Ernest does publicly is solo RP, having a partner who will play along and won't laugh at his eccentric mannerisms would be worth something to him. Though Ernest and Lou don't seem to interact with each other all that often these days.
Plus, Ernest would also love the fact that he can be condescending to Lou without Lou ever even noticing.
This is the part that's strange to me too. Lou is mean, and Ernest likes to write as though he's calm and a wise old elder--and then jump in savagely on a tiny mistake or difference in opinion. And not always on politics; he sperged out at length on that person who didn't like a movie Ernest did like. But we've seen a lot of times when Lou was gearing up for a rage-delete, Ernest posted in a chiding mom-type voice telling Lou to calm down.
As we've seen from his many recent slapfights, Ernest really does like to argue just for the sake of it. I think he also loves to white-knight for Lou (and maybe others), wading in to defend him when he gets attacked for his shitty behavior. Ernest really went for Kethriss when he called out Lou's scamming for example, and also Jen-Duh during the Cohost meltdown.
This is probably at the core of why they've stuck together, although the private RP theory makes enough sense to be the working hypothesis. Lou is probably Ernest's headmates' "good morning" DMs.
I think he also loves to white-knight for Lou (and maybe others), wading in to defend him when he gets attacked for his shitty behavior. Ernest really went for Kethriss when he called out Lou's scamming for example, and also Jen-Duh during the Cohost meltdown.
The only thing better than picking a fight with a stranger for having written a movie review is defending a friend. Dude's world is so low-stakes, and half RP, that actually having a "cause" is a big plus. Not counting Trump etc; a "cause" where you can flame someone online and they actually notice/care.
Ironically Lou is doing a better job of separating his personalities: the crossovers between Disqus Lou, Threads Lou and Furrysphere Lou are irregular enough to be notable. Ernest has no problem with shitting where he eats. Then again, Ernest isn't fundraising; all he wants is attention.
Ernest continued his introspections and found a fictional reference to the way he imagines he must have seemed to his family and friends in Algernon Blackwood's "The Willows."
He made a "movie."
It is just this image with some birdsong and background sounds. There are a handful of older videos on his channel.
Kel and Chara talk.
Plurality.
"Life in the hyperbolic spaces" is a good description of his behavior, but not in the way he thinks it is. And here we go again, with language model AIs being completely based on his writing.
It's unfortunate that pretending to be a bunch of video game characters hampers engagement, when he wants to talk history/politics beyond the extremely-online "burn it down and be gay" kneejerk responses that he gets from the people who do talk to him. He really wants to be superior to other old farts, but they're slower to engage.
Jeez Ernest, I can't work out why everyone you meet seems to think you're crazy, while you debate it on a public social media site as a series of sock accounts that claim to be videogame characters and your own dead brother, spewing out paragraph after paragraph of navel-gazing into the void while nobody (except us) pays any attention. And are you "terrified" of doctors because they told you that you melted your brain with psychedelics and ought to be institutionalised, perchance?
As for his pretending to be his own dead brother (who is now married, a they/them and polyamorous, as well as living in Ernest's head), yeah, I can see people thinking that might be in slightly bad taste. Though it's the brother thing that makes me think he's not LARPing. Nobody sane would do something so offensive in reference to someone they clearly loved, claiming to literally be able to speak for them and giving them new pronouns and multiple spouses. I can't see his family still speaking to him if they find out what he's doing - if I had one of my relatives start talking on the internet claiming to be another relative who killed themselves I'm not sure if I'd try to have them locked up, try to stage an intervention or just thump them, but I certainly would not take it well, and chances are neither have his family. It's not in his interests in any material way to behave like this, it's lost him all his friends and cost him anyone taking him remotely seriously online (which is something he really wants). It only makes sense as a severely maladaptive coping mechanism for guilt, grief and loss, and one that even then is probably only really possible with Ernest's LSD-induced brain damage.
I was wondering whether that first image is a reference to him finding out about his own KF thread, but on second reading it's only *one* of his headmates that has been targeted by Elon Musk fans apparently, and this thread is about, well, all of them. I think it's his usual paranoid delusions rather than a reference to anything specific, because any real attention or threat he brought to himself would be against his entire "wing", because he's the only one who believes what he's saying.
Is he... is he throwing shade at his friends, under the guise that "I'm Frisk right now, and usually you're talking to Chara"?
I can understand having an argument over Elon Musk. It's stupid, but everyone has spats with friends every now and then. One of MY best friends got really into Michael Buble back in the day, which was a horrible experience.
But imagine being so bitchmade that instead of owning it and saying "I'm having trouble squaring your love of Space Hitler with our friendship, let's resolve this", he has one of his less-popular video game headmates send you a ten paragraph Dear John letter in the form of a rambling diatribe about how he's in hell right now and it's totally your fault for making him trust you when really by nature he's an asexual introvert who wouldn't normally jack off with a bunch of lonelyass trannies, honest.
As someone who loves #Morrowind and also #LaughingAtOtherkinTrauma, I am eagerly awaiting more details on this.
When he says he was "traumatized" by video games, what does he mean by this? Why does he claim he lost friends over video games? Why is threatening somebody with physical violence, because video games?
I'm glad he lets us know that virtually every other character in the Pnictogen Wing likes video games, really only Chara hates them, so that when he DOES play vidya we know it's just Mordred or Kris or Noelle or Susie playing, not Chara. But this is an amazingly tantalizing glimpse into his psyche and I hope he expands on it (in a way that I can find and read, ofc. I'm sure he HAS discussed his traumatic relationship with vidya, but the odds of finding it buried in the thousands upon thousands of pages of schizo ranting he does is slim to none)
This right here is intensely sad.
Dunno how many of yinz Kiwis are Christians, or even just sentimental romantics, but Ernie admitting he loved Lewis once, and that "there was something Narnia that felt like... how I wanted the future to be" is honestly a little tragic.
Poor fucker. I wonder if part of the reason he hates The Space Trilogy so much is because he sees himself reflected in some of the scientist characters?
One of the major plot points in the Space Trilogy - that series of Lewis books Ernie bitches about constantly - is the existence of an academic/scientific, politically progressive NGO called the NICE; essentially the early 20th-century version of what might variously be called a "woke", "fascist", "euphoric atheist", or "Illuminati" techbro group today. Literal demons masquerading as #CalTech staff, which is something you'd assume Ernie could get behind, seeing how much hate he has in his heart for colleges and his fellow nerds, but w/e.
One of the central tragedies about the NICE is that few members are aware of the dark extent of its activities (and even the most "awake" members can still only grasp a portion of the evil that's going on). The NICE is structured like an esoteric mystery cult, and the further you get into the inner circle of its NWO technocracy, the more you come to understand that the real mission of the group is not liberty and human progress, but the complete destruction of the human soul. With a few exceptions, most employees of NICE are genuinely well-meaning people, but the corruption sets in and even the "good guys" in the story find it incredibly difficult to maintain sanity and break free.
Spoilers, but by the end of the story, Christ returns and wreaks a terrible judgement on NICE, killing almost everyone, except those few who can still seek forgiveness. There's some rather harrowing descriptions of several characters who KNOW there's something wrong. Who can SEE that they're living in a hell of their own making, and can understand, at least on some level, that there is a better life out there, a brighter future, which is still within their grasp if only they would reach out for it.
But at this point they're so far gone, mentally emotionally and spiritually, that they just can't. They see the lifeboat, see the life rings bobbing in the water, and instead of reaching out they let themselves sink into the deep.
That's the vibe I'm getting from Ernie here.
God stuff aside, I think anybody - religious or not, liberal or conservative - would agree that Ernie is a miserable bastard. His life has obviously gone off the rails, and is only getting worse by the day. I think, on some level, he realizes this, but he's also so demoralized and filled with hate, both for himself AND for reality as a whole, that I don't even know if he'd be willing to change even if he knew he had that option. He's standing in a burning room, dousing himself with gasoline, while tearfully wondering what life might be like if instead of playing troonatic with his fellow reprobates, he just stepped outside instead.
At first glance it's funny that a guy who is #plural and all his #headmates are coincidentally #video_game characters is telling people "I AM TRAUMATIZED BY GAMES." But I guess it makes sense that he feels more strongly about video games--this sense that if he doesn't play the same ones as his friends he's letting them down--because of that. He can't just enjoy something; he has to fold it into his personal gnosis (as the kids say).
I was wondering whether that first image is a reference to him finding out about his own KF thread, but on second reading it's only *one* of his headmates that has been targeted by Elon Musk fans apparently, and this thread is about, well, all of them.
I think it's a lot of things coming to a head. Ernest got booted (?) from Bluesky when enough people got tired of his behavior, which is of course completely justified and reasonable behavior from his standpoint. There's something in that tirade about his "wife and metamour" which sounds like RL friction, reasonable in any relationship and more likely if your troon wife is pissy about social media drama.
...and again, the new chapter of Deltarune just came out. Still wondering if he's afraid to play that because it might change his characters' headmates' canon. Acquaintances might be asking him if he's played it, because c'mon it's his whole personal brand, but what they think is small talk is deeply distressing to Ernest. This could be why "Frisk" is complaining about seeing more of "Chara's" friends in the last few days, and not liking how chatty and horny they are.
