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Should be a wild four years.

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TRUE IRISH REMEMBER THE TALE
OF WILLIAM WALLACE THE FIRST ALPHAMALE
HIS GHOST OF THE ISLE FIGHTS BY MY SIDE
IT IS TO HIM TO WHOM I CONFIDE
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ALL POSSIBLE FUTURES THAT NOW COULD BE
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CANDYMAN SPEAKETH WITH BUTTERED UP PRIDE
CARAMEL GLOVES CUT THROUGH SKIN OF LIES
WHEN CANDYMAN SWEETEN THE DEATH OF DORYE
 
It's also a terrible idea to deport cheap labor in favor of expensive domestic labor in areas like construction. As if housing prices weren't high enough already. We're gonna see high interest rates along with increased housing prices.
Do you seriously just see them as "cheap labor", completely disregarding that all these illegals also require space to live?

What do you think drives prices more? Demand or labor cost?
The difference in labor cost is pocketed by the construction company -it raises their profit margin. Whether they send you an all-American workforce or a mixed bag of illegals and US citizens, they'll ask the same price.
But there is a limited amount of housing space available on the market. And way too many people looking for housing. That is what significantly drives prices, not labor cost. Having more illegals makes the situation worse.

If you were right (if you really did understand economics, which you don't), housing prices would not fluctuate once the real estate has been constructed. But that's simply not reality.
 
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Remind me, how well did it end when we turned them loose all across the Union?
exactly. we didn't deport them like we should have, like was suggested by even lincoln.

Do you seriously just see them as "cheap labor", completely disregarding that all these illegals also require space to live?
space to live, food to eat, medical care (and therefore beds to take up), driving space, bus space, illegals take up way more room than people realize.
 
It's gay and only good for farming rage bait. Cuckservatives are already calling for Civil War when they can't even out compete Jose for a construction job.

If MAGA voters really did understand economics, which they don't, then they would understand that a war in the most profitable state in the Union is a terrible idea.

It's also a terrible idea to deport cheap labor in favor of expensive domestic labor in areas like construction. As if housing prices weren't high enough already. We're gonna see high interest rates along with increased housing prices.
House prices aren't high because of the cost of labor, that's a non-factor. It's the land cost that's inflated and the materials that have tariffs.
 
Obama was known as "De-porter-in-chief" by ICE for a reason. You'll find more Dems are supportive of this than you think, but the methodology has never been properly codified by either party for reasons as stated in my second paragraph and it should be.
I have some soft agreement with your arguments. The flexibility of enforcement is certainly an issue for both parties, but I have to point out that Obama's bullshit is just that, bullshit. Obama wasn't deporting abuela or gang members in the interior, he was turning away the South Americans at the border and recategorizing those as deportations. It's all lies, damn lies and statistics!

And you know EXACTLY why he did so, because the Mexican Majority fucking DESPISES all the other """hispanics"""" and sees them all as niggers from even more failed states, with very few exceptions. Back when the Democrat/Uniparty Establishment actually had non-retards trying to steer their increasingly oversized boat, they recognized that the easiest way to keep the latino vote was to keep as few major ethnic voting blocks as possible, especially after having virtually no gains with Cubans. Then some retards went all in on red to spite Trump or some equally retarded reason and now we have the latinos realizing that they like not having the spic's spics in their cities.

This is why the methodology has always been wiggly wobbly, because it's been a constant threat by the people who actually know and didn't sit on their laurels yet could rarely actually speak up against the suits in charge who were just as alienated from the common people as any other 5th yacht club corporation.
 
I am glad this thread contains most political discussion on the site because the United States is NOT the only country in the world.

But EuroKiwis, you have to admit we have some wild af politics and news over here in the states, right? What do you guys think of what goes on over here, in a broad sense?

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I like most of Trump's calls, especially in regards to immigration; it signals a shift in politics, such that we can follow your path (immigration has always been wildly unpopular, just our politicians were too pussies to act, in fact we got our own version of political parties being banned over a decade ago because of this)

I didnt expect violence like this, to me it signifies at least some energy still left in the leftist scum. Not a while lot but some, and the more they try to use it the more it may spark right up. The Overton window has shifted, it's time to solidify our gains.

Fuck Massie, fuck blackpillers even half measures are better than letting the niggers run rampant
 
>TFW you're a skibidi zoom zoom doing bussin revolutionary graffiti, but you didn't take your ADHD meds before the riot.
>"DEATH TO AMERIKKA"

Lost a K in the KKK there, champ.
At least you know what it says. The wetbacks where I live spray jibberish so far from normal letters you'd legitimately wonder if they could even fucking read. Apparently that's supposed to be their super speshel style. It's special alright.
 
You guys gotta realize Hispanics aren't black people.
South America is like 80 different shit holes that all hate each other
Bingo. Its peak "sheltered American who thinks they know it all" to say that latinos are some cohesive identity, even the most liberal South American politician will have that "one group" they just cant get along with.
Latinos will shit on each other for being Catholic vs Protestant
For being from one country rather than another
For being from one region of the same country rather than another
For being Black, chinese, or for being too native
Right now the most hated group are probably Venezualans, since theyve exploded in all directions and across all borders as refugees, and have a tradition of being scammers and liars.
 
UNREAL: With a straight face, CNN contributor says the L.A. riots are a “peaceful protest” as cars burn in the street on the screen next to her (source)

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You can't hate journoscum enough.
These people legitimately deserve to die. I'm not exaggerating when I say it would be a net positive for society if they all dropped dead this instant.
 
1. Go to War with Mexico
2. Annex Mexico
3. Make States out of Mexico
4. Apply laws to Ralph again in now US controlled Mexico

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Wrong, make Ralph the magistrate of Meheeco, that would be a just punishment for all Mexicans being dirty greasy savages.
"My torta, my Meheeco, my Dune. Whatcha think about that bish?"
 
But EuroKiwis, you have to admit we have some wild af politics and news over here in the states, right? What do you guys think of what goes on over here, in a broad sense?
i'm jealous as fuck
over here it's like how america would be if all available media was npr and msnbc, and all politicians and government officials were kamala harris and liz warren
 
I have some soft agreement with your arguments. The flexibility of enforcement is certainly an issue for both parties, but I have to point out that Obama's bullshit is just that, bullshit. Obama wasn't deporting abuela or gang members in the interior, he was turning away the South Americans at the border and recategorizing those as deportations. It's all lies, damn lies and statistics!

And you know EXACTLY why he did so, because the Mexican Majority fucking DESPISES all the other """hispanics"""" and sees them all as niggers from even more failed states, with very few exceptions. Back when the Democrat/Uniparty Establishment actually had non-retards trying to steer their increasingly oversized boat, they recognized that the easiest way to keep the latino vote was to keep as few major ethnic voting blocks as possible, especially after having virtually no gains with Cubans. Then some retards went all in on red to spite Trump or some equally retarded reason and now we have the latinos realizing that they like not having the spic's spics in their cities.

This is why the methodology has always been wiggly wobbly, because it's been a constant threat by the people who actually know and didn't sit on their laurels yet could rarely actually speak up against the suits in charge who were just as alienated from the common people as any other 5th yacht club corporation.
Nice to see it half way with someone of the opposite party. I’d be all-in on law changes and even call my congressman if they put together a piece of legislation which penalizes employers for purposefully alllowing illegals to work or for evading steps to verify fairly.
 
>Wearing Soviet Flags
>Throwing firecrackers at the police
Really winning hearts and minds
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The woke really think that communists would be in favour of all of their bullshit beliefs and behaviours.

They didn’t take too kindly to unemployment for one.


Do you seriously just see them as "cheap labor", completely disregarding that all these illegals also require space to live?

What do you think drives prices more? Demand or labor cost?
The difference in labor cost is pocketed by the construction company -it raises their profit margin. Whether they send you an all-American workforce or a mixed bag of illegals and US citizens, they'll ask the same price.
But there is a limited amount of housing space available on the market. And way too many people looking for housing. That is what significantly drives prices, not labor cost. Having more illegals makes the situation worse.

If you were right (if you really did understand economics, which you don't), housing prices would not fluctuate once the real estate has been constructed. But that's simply not reality.

Also, legal workers would pay taxes which could then go on education and Medicaid and other things leftists claim to support.
 
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