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Did you not read the last 300 pages? Those fags are also lighting cars on fire, looting stores, and most importantly represent an active adversarial foreign element in our nation, a la invasion.

It is his duty to the integrity of the nation do battle with them, "peaceful" or not.
Also we had the dems facilitate this invasion for their own financial and political gains. Trump focusing so much on LA isn't just about the riot or deportations, it is a direct challenge to the Dems and Newsom (the likely dem canadate) especially. They are trying to thread the needle with the progressive and normie audience, but having actual ethnonationalists scream "La Raza" and "Viva Mexico" while trashing the city waving Mexican flags isn't helping their image at all and Gavin doesn't have any strategy to solve this crisis besides act tough about Trump.
 
Pentagon draws up rules on possible use of force by Marines deployed to LA protests
Associated Press (archive.ph)
By Tara Copp and Lolita C. Baldor
2025-06-10 01:39:11GMT
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Pentagon was scrambling Monday to establish rules to guide U.S. Marines who could be faced with the rare and difficult prospect of using force against citizens on American soil, now that the Trump administration is deploying active duty troops to the immigration raid protests in Los Angeles.

U.S. Northern Command said it is sending 700 Marines into the Los Angeles area to protect federal property and personnel, including federal immigration agents. The 2nd Battalion, 7th Marines are coming from Twentynine Palms, California, and will augment about 4,100 National Guard members already in LA or authorized to be deployed there to respond to the protests.

The forces have been trained in deescalation, crowd control and standing rules for the use of force, Northern Command said.

But the use of the active duty forces still raises difficult questions.

The Marines are highly trained in combat and crisis response, with time in conflict zones like Syria and Afghanistan. But that is starkly different from the role they will face now: They could potentially be hit by protesters carrying gas canisters and have to quickly decide how to respond or face decisions about protecting an immigration enforcement agent from crowds.

According to a U.S. official, troops will be armed with their normal service weapons but will not be carrying tear gas. They also will have protective equipment such as helmets, shields and gas masks.

When troops are overseas, how they can respond to threats is outlined by the rules of engagement. At home, they are guided by standing rules for the use of force, which have to be set and agreed to by Northern Command, and then each Marine should receive a card explaining what they can and cannot do, another U.S. official said.

For example, warning shots would be prohibited, according to use-of-force draft documents viewed by The Associated Press. Marines are directed to deescalate a situation whenever possible but also are authorized to act in self-defense, the documents say.

The AP reviewed documents and interviewed nine U.S. officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss details not yet public, about the guidance being determined for the Marines.

The Pentagon also is working on a memo with clarifying language for the Marines that will lay out the steps they can take to protect federal personnel and property. Those guidelines also will include specifics on the possibility that they could temporarily detain civilians if troops are under assault or to prevent harm, the first U.S. official said.

Those measures could involve detaining civilians until they can be turned over to law enforcement.

Having the Marines deploy to protect federal buildings allows them to be used without invoking the Insurrection Act, one U.S. official said.

The Insurrection Act allows the president to direct federal troops to conduct law enforcement functions in national emergencies. But the use of that act is extremely rare. Officials said that has not yet been done in this case and that it’s not clear it will be done.

President George H.W. Bush used the Insurrection Act to respond to riots in Los Angeles in 1992 after the acquittal of white police officers who were videotaped beating Black motorist Rodney King.

If their role expands if the violence escalates, it is not clear under what legal authority they would be able to engage, said Elizabeth Goitein, a senior director of the Liberty and National Security Program at the Brennan Center for Justice at NYU Law.

“If in fact those Marines are laying hands on civilians, doing searches, then you have pretty powerful legal concerns,” Goitein said. “No statutory authority Trump has invoked so far permits this.”

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth tweeted late Saturday that he was considering deploying the Marines to respond to the unrest after getting advice earlier in the day from Gen. Dan Caine, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, according to one of the U.S. officials.

Still, the tweet, which was posted to Hegseth’s personal X account and not to his official government account, caught many inside the Pentagon by surprise. As late as Monday, the military’s highest offices were still considering the potential ramifications.

But the Marine Corps were asking broader questions, too: Do they send more senior, experienced personnel so as not to put newer, less experienced troops at risk of potentially making a judgment call on whether to use force against a civilian?

What’s lawful under a domestic deployment — where troops may end up in a policing role — is governed by the Fourth Amendment in the U.S. Constitution, which forbids seizure of persons, including temporarily restraining them, unless it could be considered reasonable under the circumstances.

Troops under federal authorities are in general prohibited from conducting law enforcement on U.S. soil under the Posse Comitatus Act.
 
But if they become citizens you have to pay them minimum wage and benefits and normal hours and can't threaten to report them to ICE if they don't let you treat them like a slave and all the things the employers of illegals don't want to do.
That's pretty much what happened with the Reagan amnesties in the 1980s. They got let off the hook, they stayed, they didn't learn English, they sucked down gibs, they popped out kids, they demanded safer conditions and better pay. More of them came because it was so easy, and there were a lot of shit job openings that the newly created citizens didn't want to do any more now that they were eligible for minimum wage.

Part of the Reagan plan was a bait and switch; there was supposed to be one big amnesty, then immigration was supposed to be made more difficult, and a wall was supposed to be built. Clinton didn't follow through. He put up a few miles of border wall, made of Army surplus helicopter pads from Viet Nam, and called it a day.

I'm finding out now that's there's a rather large number of Mexican nationals who were here in the 80's and didn't bother to do the paperwork to get the amnesty, because they either were so dumb that they didn't know they had to actually file anything, or they were emboldened, and they figured they were safe hiding among the other wetbacks and didn't need to pay the filing fees or take the test. Now they're old and facing deportation once again; these are the meme crying abuelas that will make you say fuck having laws and shit. If they're that dumb or that cheap and lazy, I'm not gonna cry over them missing out on a once-in-a-lifetime offer. Kick rocks. No more amnesty, it didn't work the first time, and it won't work now.
 
Why

You just spent multiple paragraphs replying to it
Why? Are you actually asking on kiwifarms why someone takes a special autistic interest in obscure or dumb shit and follows it? Literally the foundation of this whole cesspool is documenting a irrelevant person who doesn't matter for no other reason than sheer bemusement and fascination.

If your only retort is 'lol your writing alot' then go off lmao? You don't have to read or reply to me.

Can we go back to the actually interesting shit now
 
Please allow me to top that. Not SUPER related to LA, but this is like the epitome of white guilt retardation.

It's so weird seeing Stuttering Craig be part of culture wars all of a sudden. Didn't think he would make a comeback after death of ScrewAttack, period, but here he is, either BTFO DSP or some lefties.
They just looted the Apple Store downtown Los Angeles

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I mean, LA is doing a good job immolating itself right now. Why would Trump intervene? This is what LA people wanted, this is what they voted for, this is what they deserve. I hope every store in LA is shut down come morning and these animals starve.
And these people will fight tooth and nail to keep from being sent back, because the cartel will KILL them if they come home broke. That's why they're not flocking to take the $1,000 and the free plane ticket; it's not enough money to pay off the cartel debt.
Well, they can enjoy Guantanamo prison cells, I don't care. Their opinions are irrelevant. We don't deal with terrorists either, those cartels can take those machetes and shove them up their ass. They're pussies when compared to the shit Brazilians do to each other for fun anyways.
 
ICE protestors marched through LA right to where law enforcement has a blockade

They wave Mexico Flags right in the faces of law enforcement

They tagged “F*ck ICE” on almost every building as they walked here (caught on video)

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ICE protester in Los Angeles climbing a traffic light to raise the Mexico Flag

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These faggots chanting "peaceful protest" are like children wagging their fingers in front of someone's face going "nyeh nyeh, I'm not touching you!"
 
I mean, LA is doing a good job immolating itself right now. Why would Trump intervene? This is what LA people wanted, this is what they voted for, this is what they deserve. I hope every store in LA is shut down come morning and these animals starve.
The people of LA didn't want this, the dem political machine does. Once ICE, Police, Sheriff, national guard, Marines, and Sam Hyde finishes purging every non citizen, the Dem machine will struggle now that their ballet fodder is gone.
 
3. Yep he can, I am not talking about the national guard though, I literally said using the marines against the US people is a breach of the constitution objectively
No. It isn't.

It's been used before in case of rioting, looting, not following government commands.

Holy shit, in 1992 the Army was shooting motherfuckers in the face before the Marines finally got off their ass.
At Katrina they sent in the fucking Rangers to shoot people in the face.

I don't know where everyone gets the retarded idea that you can't use troops according to the Constitution.

Bro your opinion is worth as much dirt to me as mine is to you. And ''our dumpsterfire' lmao fuck off with that shit. America is a fucking lowcow in itself and I will laugh as much as I want go fucking cry about it
I called you country a shit heap and America the dumpster fire.

If this is how good you are at US politics, I advise you to get fucked.
 
Bro your opinion is worth as much dirt to me as mine is to you.
except you deleted your sperg, so either that or the few reaction stickers was enough to influence you.

Trump hasn't escalated the situation, if anything he is exercising restraint keeping the NG to protecting Federal buildings. I'd wager the majority of decent citizens would prefer to not have their country torn up by foreigners and fifth columnists in another Summer of Love.

Give your head a shake there, bud.
 
It's an LA riot featuring mostly Hispanics, they have like a 1 in 6 odds of using force against an actual citizen.
Still, I think they're going to have to start a pretty big, out-of-control fire in order for martial law to be declared. In the Rodney King riots, a big part of the city was already on fire before Bush called it. A really strong east wind and a car or big dumpster fire would do it.
 
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Saw it on AXN stream again, abandoned iPhone and also before from some other guy showing him video of the two phones he found, this screen along with a super loud obnoxious siren. So at least the floor model/display unit iPhones are just screaming beacons at this point.
Side note, why is YouTube such a fuck to pull clips from?
 
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