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Between wanting to abolish ICE and defunding the police, why does the left want total anarchy? Why is the left's goal to spread mass chaos?
The goal is forcing what they want through selective enforcement.

It's not the left itself that wants it - it's the extreme wing who want revolution (for the sake of an alleged utopia they are utterly incapable of bringing about) and the insane activist class who want it at the ground level, and the extremely wealthy financiers of the party who want it at the higher level. The former are too stupid to care about what their actions do, and the latter enable it with malice aforethought because they've been gambling against western civilization for decades.
 
Disrupting/invading/insurrecting/protesting/demonstrating (whatever the fuck you want to call it) the singular building which is a major seat of power of government, during an active procedure which determines the governmental rule/operation, is vastly more significant in importance to the American society than some niggers and spics throwing a tantrum in a couple blocks of meaningless buildings in an already shithole of downtown LA.
You're right. They're not equivalent.

The LA enemy combatants are destroying the livelihoods of random American citizens just trying to make an honest living.J6ers went after the architects of miseries worldwide.

I will NEVER, to my dying day, feel bad for Congress over J6. The images of those vermin cowering under their desks and fleeing with bags on their heads, their delusions of untouchability shattered, will never not fill me with malicious glee.

"No bad tactics, only bad targets". We didn't write those RoE, Leftists did.
The goal is forcing what they want through selective enforcement.
Precisely. "Abolish the Police" is a motte-and-bailey for "commandeer and weaponize the police." They did the same thing with the military and the DoJ.
 
January 6th was one building. The mind of faggots, how does it work?
It was also the largest unscheduled tour done by mostly boomers. FFS they arrested grandma for just being inside
And yet Mexico’s economy has grown from remittances-and drug sales.

They don’t fear us like they used too. We haven’t shown them the power of the White man and reminded them of their place in over a 100 years.

How China is setting up shop in Mexico​

*sorry for the retard visual story slop but*

summarised by ai

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The short answer is : China the long answer is chinese money pouring in building factories making Mexico less dependent on USA.
This is why you never offshore shit kids
 
I always told you guys spics were nothing but niggers with slightly more intelligence and thus were more cunning and dangerous but who don't even speak English. I told you guys that the minute serious deportations happened every second, third, and fourth generation spic would turn against this country, because they hate it and they hate white people. In response, I was told spics were based Catholics and the 9-12% of Spanish blood the average Mexican carries would magically activate and cancel out the blood of the most savage, depraved, sadistic demon-worshippers the world has ever seen.

All I can say now is that the US faces what Ukraine does, but ten times worse. And once again idiot Trump is totally unprepared for what he faces and unwilling to do what he needs to because of "optics". For the first time since 2020 I'm stocking up on bullets and carrying when I leave the house. I'm surrounded by enemies who want me dead and want where I live to be plundered and part of Mexico. The people two houses down from me literally had Chihuahua license plates when they moved in using HUD vouchers from my fucking tax dollars, do you honestly think they aren't itching for a chance to kill my blonde-haired blue-eyed ass?

I'll also say that when this is over the bush-era neocons and boomers who sold this country so red line can go up need to be executed as traitors with the rest.
 
So why are all the leftist funded riots staged around federal (edit: government) buildings?

I suppose they’re symbolic

If your argument is that the capital building is SUPER symbolic, ok. But how many courthouses and city halls do you think it would take to balance that?

If it were leftists in the capital, it would’ve burned like St. John’s Episcopal Church
Arguably, no random federal courthouse or building in [INSERT CITY HERE] is as important to the foundation of the US government and way of life than The White House, Congress or SCOTUS buildings. And you're just being contrarian to suggest otherwise.
 
Our patience, rationality, fairness, and mercy are what make us better than the savages. But that's also our weakness, for the savages speak only the languages of violence and cunning.
i've got a lot of fatigues these days. fag flag fatigue, tranny fatigue, nigger fatigue. one thing i don't have is a feeling like i should display that i'm better than these psuedohumans by pretending i think their lives are valuable in a realistic way. they are easily replaced by whites in just a few generations, and the country would be infinitely better off for it, and frankly, the rest of the fucking world would be too.

it's hard for anyone to deny in this sea of bullshit globalist garbage that the united states being a powerhouse, even just for its own interests, benefits the rest of the world through trade and military power to keep threats to ourselves quiet.
 
need to control the proper institutions to carry out something like this.
schools, colleges, universities.
On a nationwide scale? Maybe. In the digital age, however, you can easily do this locally or on community wide bases. Good news with easily influenced morons like this is that they usually don't know how to spot propaganda and can't tell if they're being actively influenced. Leftists don't have a monopoly on this industry.
How about you don't do shit that justifies sending the army after you?

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Best part is if Trump was half as dangerous as they make him out to be, the left is so impotent they would have no way of stopping him. Shame Project 2025 concentration camps aren't actually happening.
 
No that’s not the point; the point is if the genie is let out of the bottle what’s to stop a dem president from doing the same

Nothing stopped the Biden admin from throwing J6ers in solitary with no charges for years, despite Republicans having never done that. Maybe you're a stupid nigger, have you thought about that?
 
Arguably, no random federal courthouse or building in [INSERT CITY HERE] is as important to the foundation of the US government and way of life than The White House, Congress or SCOTUS buildings. And you're just being contrarian to suggest otherwise.
No, I think it’s a rhetorical angle that the lefties latched onto out of desperation, pretending that it actually represented overthrow of the government and no FBI honeypotting or other malfeasance was involved

There’s just no world in which occupying the capital physically transfers governmental power to any idiot standing around unarmed in there. Understanding the absurdity of it, lefties like to hammer on the fact that some attention whore sat at Pelosi’s desk and whatever else, in an attempt to preserve the emotional flavor that our country faced an actual coup that wasn’t them
 
1. The riot is not large
2. The illegal immigration problem is large.

How does the TDS mind work?
January 6th was one building. The mind of faggots, how does it work?

I love that if you have any criticism of Daddy, or fuck, any questions or skepticism you get labeled as being a libby. Like motherfucker, you can bet I'm to the right of you.

We've gone from special pleading and false analogy with the invasion argument to bait and switch and straw man in these two comments. Cool. Can I totally pretty please support your e-daddy Donboi? It's not an unthinking propaganda movement with no political principals.
 
Nothing stopped the Biden admin from throwing J6ers in solitary with no charges for years
Nor do I recall even one single instance of anyone on the left saying "hold on, let's be lenient, the shoe may be on the other foot." It's only right-wing people who ever show consideration for fairness. Leftoids care about grievance, and grievance alone
 
This no-true-Scotsman fallacy is typical of how leftoids frame their struggle, but no. The whole thing was rich kids all the way back to Marx and Engels.
The rank and file of Marxist movements back in the day up until the mid to late 20th century were almost always actual factory workers or peasants (in China primarily). Once the working class in the US was gutted by immigration and offshoring, there was a big shift to the point where the scions of the incredibly wealth, ever-shrinking group people who own an every expanding share of productive enterprises, populated the leading roles, and the foot soldiers became drug addicts, the unemployed, sexual deviants, and all other manner of societal dross.

It's just historically illiterate to claim that this was the case in the early 1900s - unions back then held a lot of power, and unions were populated by factory workers, tied to mob power, and often operated at the margins of the law and were absolutely opposed to the owners and were led by people who came up through their own ranks. If you've ever operated in the circles of the very wealthy into this country, and talked to their college-age/adult children, and ask them what they want to do, they often airily say something like 'activism' or 'work for an NGO'. This is what they're referring to: turning any protest movement into a moral laundering program for people like them, turning it to serve the financial interests of their families, and sabotaging any attempt to point criticism where it belongs - at people like them. That is a unique development. If you think that insisting that these scum should be allowed to take the mantle of labor movements who are still looked upon fondly by a lot of people in this country is a win, well then I'd just say that you don't understand long-time strategy. 'Our movement gave you weekends, higher wages, and sick leave' is the fig leaf they hide behind. The winning move is to tear it off.
 
Since these particular riots are in response to a raid on cartel money laundering and human trafficking operations, and are funded (at least initially) by a cuban national who has been found guilty in the past of money laundering... I'm guessing the goal is to slow them down long enough for them to destroy evidence and get anyone important out of the region before ICE and the Fedboys can arrest them.
Hold on fellas... Wait a minute. I'm starting to feel like these gangs of drug smuggling, human trafficking, butchering, torturing, rapist murderers may be the bad guys...

Jokes aside, Mexico is a really fascinating and unique dumpster fire from a historical perspective. Since the inception of the nation state in the 1600s the general trends is that states exist in "neighborhoods" wherein most states share some similarities and a developmental course. The Eurasia area is quite well developed for the most part, as is North America. Whereas Africa is a pit and the Middle East is a basket case all round. But the Mexico-USA relationship is one of the rare examples of two neighbors going in complete opposite directions.
I have come to conclude that the prosperity of the USA feeds into the shittyness of Mexico. Obviously Mexico is going to be a hotspot for drug smuggling and human trafficking because the affluence of the USA creates around the clock demand for vices. As long as there is demand there is money, and as long as there is money the culture of corruption and looking the other way continues. (Now, this is not a once off phenomenon. You actually see this process occur quite a bit in other regions. In the European area peripheral places like Albania, Bulgaria, Kosovo and Morocco are all slowly becoming states run by organized crime. In Asia we see a similar thing in the Golden Triangle and the back jungles of Myanmar, which pretty much exist in perpetual anarchy and warlordism.)

But in my eyes what makes Mexico unique is the extent to which they exist basically as a parasite. During the 1990s the Mexican state ,under the leadership of Carlos Salinas de Gortari, gave up everything meaningful in Mexico preventing it from becoming a junkie that could only survive off the American Economy. This is called the Neoliberal era in Mexico. They gave up almost all of their state run industries, their currency controls, economic protectionism, labour protection and border security to be eligible for NAFTA. On the part of President Salinas this represents the ultimate Faustian bargain. "Give up on your current project of statehood. Remove your worker protections and open your border so that you will become an extension of the American economic zone. In exchange, we will send our manufacturing to you to take advantage of your low wages, and we will let the our new slaves send home remittances". Essentially, the neoliberal economic order is akin to a global patronage network.

But I suspect that the people who drafted the NAFTA plan for Mexico legitimately did not consider the inherent weakness and corruption of the Mexican state. The free trade agreement was supposed to give Mexican businesses unprecedented access to the American economy. Well it just so happens that the biggest "business" in Mexico is the cartel, and BOY did they benefit from this new access. I have to stress that the cartels are businesses in all but name. They have products (drugs), they sell services (smuggling comes to mind), they pay taxes (in the form of bribes), they engage in regulatory capture (by buying and threatening law enforcement, as well as paying politicians and the military to look the other way) and they even have unofficial relationships with the state (in the form of informal "if you don't touch our shit we will not touch yours" agreements). Nafta was supposed to Americanize Mexico but it mainly just Americanized the cartels, who are by now probably large enough to be listed on the NASDAQ. Thanks to NAFTA they were able to grow and consolidate. Now they are almost too big to fail.

On the other hand, cheap Mexican labour 'Mexicanized' the American economy in a bunch of unforeseen ways. In places like California it has been argued that without Mexican serf labour the agricultural sector would become dysfunctional. Construction is another industry where this occurs. Before the Mexican revolution this was how things got done there. A couple of elites and land owners owned practically everything and got fantastically rich exploiting cheap labour. After the Mexican revolution, these people were persuaded to relinquish all of these goodies in exchange for being invited into the political system under the PRI. But consider this carefully. If Mexican politicians are elites who are in politics for the money, it naturally makes sense that they would make alliances with whatever was most lucrative, in this case the cartels. Furthermore, pawning all their excess people onto America gives them the space to continue to do a crap job at governing, because anyone who can't find a job will sneak into America.

This in my analysis explains why both American and Mexican elites are so protective over this system. In the final analysis, the only people who well and truly benefit from this are the Mexican and American elites and the cartels. It will always be amazing to me how this neoliberal "integration" project poisoned BOTH Mexico and America, and brought the worst things about America to Mexico and the worst things about Mexico to America.
 
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I love that if you have any criticism of Daddy, or fuck, any questions or skepticism you get labeled as being a libby. Like motherfucker, you can bet I'm to the right of you.

We've gone from special pleading and false analogy with the invasion argument to bait and switch and straw man in these two comments. Cool. Can I totally pretty please support your e-daddy Donboi? It's not an unthinking propaganda movement with no political principals.
I don’t have any personal attachment to Trump, though god knows he might deserve it over the whole assassination attempts thing. Mainly he’s just the horse willing to pull my load after your mom quit last month.

So if you’re to the right of me, why do you want to let the lefty goons control what happens on the street in major cities?
 
I never said they would only do it if the right
did it first why are you writing fan fiction. I do think that doing that would be a guaranteed way to make sure the left does it.

That’s all I am saying
If the right organized mass terror attacks using melee weapons, shields, and firebombs, complete with Republican governors and members of Congress promoting the insurrection, a Democrat President would waste no time with LTL rounds. He would go immediately to live ammunition and orders to a hand-selected group of libs in the military to shoot on sight any one who doesn't disperse. This would then be followed up by years of RICO investigations. We would see prominent Republicans who were even loosely connected to the attacks sent to prison.

Any suggestion that the Democrats are showing even the tiniest bit of restraint because they're waiting for Republicans to give them precedent shows a stunning naivete about what they are. Really, it's the other way around. Republicans treat rioters and insurrectionists with kid gloves because Democrats do. The shocking way in which the Democrats violated J6ers' rights is why the Trump admin is comfortable going much harder on domestic terrorists now than in 2020.
 
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