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I know this I may be late, but I just gotta ask why does Mexico want to start a war with the US? Like all this shit I’ve seen from their government lately, screams they want to start the 2nd Mexico American war.
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Honestly the funniest move might just be to give LA to Mexico and see what happens
 
I mean, there’s also empirical reality..
Since you mentioned empirical reality in relation to social constructs,
Of fucking course a bunch of random dudes wandering around the Capitol with flags is going to have more meaning than a bunch of fat retards burning down LA.
I can deduce that the events that are happening in LA correlate to a national invasion between foreign countries because the people inciting riots are vocally flying Mexican flags. A flown flag can be related to allegiance to whatever that flag represents, be that a country or belief. This is just through simple observation.

If you wish to dwell deeper, it's an opposition against the state or federal government for upholding ordered deportations. Therefore, the agitators are against legal immigration and law and order.
 
I'm well aware many individual jews have a persecution complex, and that many jews at the top pull some skeevy shit. I'm also aware that
-So does EVERY other race including ours to a degree.
-There are enormous amounts of people compiling such quotes from jews while ignoring them from everyone else.
-The majority of those quotes are 40+ years old.

I'm also well aware that in an obnoxiously high number of cases, the people pushing this propose the solution of essentially destroying everything i care about to spite the jews for trying to destroy it first.

Please tell me, do the jews
-Want us to have a strong military or a weak one?
-Want us to be hypersexualized or promiscuous?
-Want us working hard or hating work?
-Want us inventing new tech or holding it back?

Whatever answer you have to these questions, half of jew haters (i won't use the term nazi because i'm convinced most of this comes from yellow toothed arabs) have the opposite. But one thing they all have in common is they get angry at me for having the audacity to care about my country, religion, values, military, institutions, and so on because it somehow benefits jews when i do this (or don't do it). The only acceptable reaction to anything that happens one way or the other is completely demoralized doomerism blamed on jews.

When the solution to the jew problem means basically committing seppuku (mixed with a fine dash of "leave the muslim powers alooooneeee!") i'm going to become very skeptical of people who bring up the jew problem.
that's what the jews want you to think
 
They don't actually like Star Wars. They just like calling themselves the Rebels. Otherwise you'd see much more Harry Potter stuff. Why? Harry Potter is legitimately everything these people stand for. Voldemort is literally Hitler. The Death Eaters are an evil version of the KKK. Yet you hardly see anything about that. Why? Because despite the meme being "Read Another Book":
I think the political war setting of Star Wars makes it much more capable of being political propaganda than Harry Potter easily. Star Wars at it's core is literally a story of a dictatorship rising and being overthrown while they are endlessly told by the media and the show creators that it's happening in real life or as the actual words the show creators said themselves "coming to a galaxy near you." Harry potter is just about a gay wizard going to school, no one cares about that shit.
 
Making fun of the dissident right and their schizo flip flopping is unacceptable in a thread about American politics. We can only talk about a certain specific group of right wingers and can't mock any right wingers no matter how dumb they are
People are shitting on you because your post was making it seem like anyone here gives two shits what the groypers say. I know this is hard to understand, because you're used to getting shit on for being a kike.

Post better.
 
Cartel stuff has been around for 20 years, it's absolutely impressive how fast everything went to shit but that's kinda the point, it was fast, unexpected, and brutal. Mexico's murder rate was dropping until 2008 where it spiked like a motherfucker. I don't think we'd be doing as much buisness as we do with Mexico if we didn't have the inheritance of the good decades before 2008, but now we're sorta forced to continue trading and working with them due to the fact that a significant chunk of the buisnessses in border states are deeply tied to the shithole down the border, and you can't disengage that without hurting the bottom line which is ultimately the only thing that matters for US elections. Greg Abbott tried to shut down the Texan border and was basically stabbed in the back by the truckers, the farmers, the manufacturing sector, everyone in Texas needed that border acccepting trucks in a speedy fashion and that caused him to just give up 3 days into the whole mess.

Don't know if this speaks to the fundamentals but it is not true that this was a problem since forever, or else we would not have stuff like NAFTA, and Mexico would be more to us like how Africa is to the Europeans.
There is something to be said here for sure. But the conclusions that the cartels did not exist before 08 is not entirely true. The PRI one party rule that ended in the 2000s goes some way to explain it. In many ways, those politicians were the real gangsters. The arrangement was "behave, make your money, shut the fuck up and always kick up". In 2000 those people lost power.
In 2006 president Calderón came to power. His policy was not to appease these monsters but to try and defeat them. In 2006 Calderon went to war with the Cartels. He lost, BADLY. The campaign only had some limited success in killing some cartel kingpins here and there.
But this is the turning point for a number of reasons. The Cartels finally realized that they were more powerful than the Mexican state, so the whole "behave and lay low" philosophy went out the window. After winning the war the cartels learned that they could call the shots. They also learned that indiscriminate killing was a good way to pressure the state into giving them what they wanted. This is why nobody in Mexico has the stomach to fight them. Also, killing their leadership fragmented them and broke the balance of power in the cartels, leading to an all out thunderdome. Some have called this a "commercial insurgency".
 
This was when a lot of people began to suspect he was a federal agent. It's not the only thing however. He also did some conferences where he collected the IDs of everyone who attended and it was alleged by a former associate of his that he was actively under investigation at the time and didn't tell his followers (suggesting he was farming intelligence on his followers for the government in order to make a deal).
I'm not trying to get into an argument about Fuentes here because we'll end up talking ourselves in circles for the rest of the day, but I will say this. I don't understand why people think the FBI/CIA/Mossad *need* him to "farm intelligence" when they already have access to all of this information in the first place (a la PRISM).

Internal NSA presentation slides included in the various media disclosures show that the NSA could unilaterally access data and perform "extensive, in-depth surveillance on live communications and stored information" with examples including email, video and voice chat, videos, photos, voice-over-IP chats (such as Skype), file transfers, and social networking details. Snowden summarized that "in general, the reality is this: if an NSA, FBI, CIA, DIA, etc. analyst has access to query raw SIGINT [signals intelligence] databases, they can enter and get results for anything they want."
 
Following up from @behindyourightnow

There is also a good chunk of Dems who have little to no idea what is actually happening. They see the highlight of Chauvin kneeling on Flyod, complain about police reforms then support BLM as they are just a peaceful group looking to fix the police. If you ask about Chaz/Chop, they have no idea what it is. Most don't even know about defund the police or just see it as a rightwing hoax Fox created.

One benefit for the Dems is that their base is largely isolated from the effects of their protestors, both in terms of consequences and information. It is why there really is no good answer to your question.
I haven't heard this for a while, but I liked the explanation that they live in a constructed hyper-reality.

It's a postmodern view, but I think it explains their mindset pretty well. They only see short MSM clips and articles that phrase and construct The Narrative. They've rejected any outside source since they have been deemed Maga/nazi/bigots and any information they present is wrong. Their views get continually reinforced though social media censorship and algorithms.

Only through something personally severe can the veil be pierced, and then not always.
 
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I guess I don't know how to respond to someone who believes everything that happened with organized crime in Mexico from 1940's to 2005 was just a spook CIA op and not real. Have a great day.
Hey, I said what happend in the 80s especifically was a CIA op, and that's what created that flareup. There was organized crime before and after (every country of sufficient size has organized crime), of course, it was just neither powerful nor emboldened to put a dent on muder numbers. You see a flareup in the 80s, and then in 2008, not 2005, I think you did not look at the data I provided. I am trying to explain why you saw two flareups, and you seem incapable of understanding that sometimes things are not eternal, just like how you seemed unable to understand that Pablo Escobar was Colombian and not Mexican. Understanding the world and the patterns (like nigger murder rates) in it makes you more capable of taking decicions, just saying.
 
Why does openly embracing criminality seem to be a central tenet of progressivism? You come here illegally, you get removed. A—>B. It’s so basic you’d think even the biggest bleeding heart would understand it has to be done. I cannot fucking believe we have half the country believing enforcing laws is mean and you need to have a heckin empathy and let people do anything they want all the time. I’m so hung up on this this morning, I can’t fathom it. It only fuels my schizo theory that city-dwellers’ heads are getting too full of plastic to grasp cause and effect. Or reality in general.
 
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There's an easy compromise here. One that will make Trump happy and resolve the illegals issue.
Mexico as our 51st state
I'd just take Baja California.
The Mexicans aren't doing anything with it. The only civilization there is Tijuana which is just a tumor on San Diego and Cabos. Everything between those two places is empty land we can use to turn into a maga space port. Then 20 years from now when squat goblins start moving there like Coyotes edging Human nomads during the Stone Age or Bantu niggers edging South African cities, they'll claim that they built it all.
 
I'm not trying to get into an argument about Fuentes here because we'll end up talking ourselves in circles for the rest of the day, but I will say this. I don't understand why people think the FBI/CIA/Mossad *need* him to "farm intelligence" when they already have access to all of this information in the first place (a la PRISM).

Internal NSA presentation slides included in the various media disclosures show that the NSA could unilaterally access data and perform "extensive, in-depth surveillance on live communications and stored information" with examples including email, video and voice chat, videos, photos, voice-over-IP chats (such as Skype), file transfers, and social networking details. Snowden summarized that "in general, the reality is this: if an NSA, FBI, CIA, DIA, etc. analyst has access to query raw SIGINT [signals intelligence] databases, they can enter and get results for anything they want."
OSINT is easier to gather than parsing through raw data and digital traffic. Watching what someone says publicly doesn't require as many technicians or search warrants.
 
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So is Trump's DOJ making any plans to go after the rich cunts funding all this?

I can see why Putler or Xi once in a while put some rich cunt into a grave or accidentally thrown out a window.

i dont think he disagrees with the point they make. he wants to point out that these people are getting their talking points by some central authority, to the point where they are posting the same thing almost word for word.
it's a bit like that collage with dozens of "local" news stations all running the exact same 'danger to Our Democracy' talking points.

Almost looks like a copy and paste effort and at the same time.

Reminds me of that social influencer summit that Trump had and some of those influencers came walking out with redacted pages inside binders.

Greg Abbott tried to shut down the Texan border and was basically stabbed in the back by the truckers, the farmers, the manufacturing sector, everyone in Texas needed that border acccepting trucks in a speedy fashion and that caused him to just give up 3 days into the whole mess.

Business leaders always causing problems.

And to paraphrase George Carlin, all of them came from American schools, churches and homes.


 
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