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Dems lost optically. My mom and her friends are against this farce/embarrassment, leftists wouuld call them far right since theyre discussing talking points such as, its a foreign invasion, flying a foreign flag, etc. This has gotten so bad my mother hates her own race/home country. Shes for more extreme on immigration than I 'am, She thinks Trump should use the military to kick in every illegals door and drag them out the country by their hair.
If you want to find someone who hates illegal immigration find someone who immigrated legally. Just like most non smokers might dislike a smoker, no one is ever as up and arms about smoking as an ex smoker. You can fear the unkown but you can only truly hate something you know.
Dems lost the normies if not theyre damn close
Dems lost the normies with tranny shit and their jump away from blue collar issues and into IDPOL. IDPOL has been so disastrous for the left that they've made the modern leftist as odious to a normie as a white nationalists, maybe even worse since modern white nationalism can be viewed as a response to the identity politics of the left. This is a working class issue they are conceding to the right.

You can convince about 20% of the DNC rank and file that no person is illegal and open borders are good. Those are largely going to be low propensity voters in college, or lipstick liberals far away from any of the realities of undocuments immigration.

Like I said earlier itt the debate is "illegal immigrants don't assimilate, are criminal and waste resources" and the optics are summed up in an image of the world's glowiest Mexican waving a foreign flag on top of a burning electric car in the middle of a public street.
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Get ready for the midterms folks, you're gonna see this image a million more times.
 

I certainly want this to be true but people were saying the same shit about the BLM riots and nothing happened to the Democrats. This is just business as usual. I guarantee if someone went out there and did what Kyle Rittenhouse did defending their property they would be in a legal battle for ten years at least while all these other cartel gang members destroying the streets of LA will get to get off scott free. I'd like there to be a change but I can't just blindly say that the Democrats are going to get what they deserve for 15 years straight while they actually face no consequences.
Ah but it did. You've forgotten Shiloh already? Nigger fatigue happened from the BLM riots my guy. I wonder what fun will come out of these. Immagrant fatigue maybe?
And by “gay space communism”, I can only assume that means CHAZ. Again.
Precisely.
Yeah, no, they don’t like people who do work and get dirty and all

The low caste leftists, yeah

EXACTLY, but I don’t understand your dismissiveness. Every high level democrat and high level democrat donor is an accelerationist who piles shit onto the debt because the national debt HELPS their cause. They tell their minions to go start fights because it HELPS move things forward. They like social division because it HELPS. They want your despair
The Democrats increasingly cannot control their own mob. They have devolved heavily into retardation as their upper class has gotten old and geriatric. They have little ability to do much else but attack like a thug. Their collective thinking skills are all but gone.
 
On that note done popular YouTubers keep popping up on my feed. They are two good looking boys of Mexican background who are larping as native north Americans while bleating about “decolonising”. I think this is part of propaganda for Mexicans to start a full scale invasion.
It wouldn't surprise me. Rouse spics into the same bear trap blacks have been stuck in for centuries ("we was stolen from!") and then have Democrat politicians promise to make concessions on that front. The party only ever gains ground when they outright try to bribe prospective voters anyway. Maybe the banks will play along too and start offering up baby boomer property to spics who vote properly (with an enormous mortgage of course.)
 
None of [the protesting] is organic.
One of my middle eastern friends theorized that Iran could also be fueling the conflict through shell companies. They pay gangs in Europe to do dirty work so no Iranians get tied to them but they stir up trouble and can even do for-hire kills.

Yes, it could be Soros, Democrats et al, but it could also be foreign actors trying to stir chaos and fan the flames like China or Iran. I really doubt Russia's capability anymore.
 
Future American meddling only ever further empowered worse and worse strains of Mexican parasites, critically Woodrow Wilson fucking over the generalissimo Victoriano Huerta and keeping him from stabilizing Mexico with his mano dura (authoritarian, militaristic policies - Huerta was a cunt, but you basically needed to be one to have any chance of ruling Mexico) caused the Mexican Revolution to spiral way the fuck out of control and eventually put borderline-Marxists like Calles in power, and then that regime decayed into the corrupt bureaucratic tyranny that has plagued Mexico for most of the 20th and 21st centuries.
I beg to differ. Firstly Wilson was the sole reason Huerta came to power. But even ignoring that, how did Chiang Kai Shek's authoritarian militaristic policies work in China? The PRI was realistically the best Mexico was ever going to get. At least until the 80s they did as good a job as anyone could have in protecting Mexicans from the excesses of neoliberalism. It took a LOT of balls to nationalize Mexican oil. And I know this kind of thing is not popular in America for ideological reasons but when you consider WHY Cardenas did this (Yankee oil companies were demanding to drill in Mexico without respecting labour laws and arrangements) you can't help but respect the choice. The PRI turned Mexico into one massive Hacienda, with the politicians as the Hacenderos. Why do you think they were washed away?
Anyhow, that disagreement aside, your sentiment reminds me a lot about how the Russians speak about the Arabs. It is common knowledge that people like Putin believe that monarchies and authoritarian regimes are the only good fit for Arab culture.
 
The Democrats increasingly cannot control their own mob. They have devolved heavily into retardation as their upper class has gotten old and geriatric. They have little ability to do much else but attack like a thug. Their collective thinking skills are all but gone.
If you’re Christy Walton and you’re personally spending your money to fund the upcoming 6/14 riots, you don’t care HOW it crashes, as long as it DOES crash.

Only the useful idiot caste cares about the details, like the environment and the hypothetical dignity of illegal immigrants. The people who pay the useful idiots are paying for the end result
 
There's nothing wrong with putting someone on ignore but announcing it to everyone and treating it like a way to punish someone is reddit tier. People like him are the reason why null removed reaction score numbers because otherwise they would obsessively track it
If the goal of announcing he was putting him on ignore was to piss him off then it worked because the guy he ignored came back seething about it so it seems like a win to me.
 
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instead of tariffs on Mexico, is there a reason why this hasn't been done or would be a bad idea? Could this not be a way to reduce the incentive for Mexicans to come and incentivise more to fuck off back to Mexico?

I'm not super fam with how remittances work but it's probably easily bypassed. Tariffs are too and are mostly for show and PR. It's trivially easy to just route around them as we've seen with Russia. China also just bypasses them.

Extra fun fact: the news hyped up Russia getting locked out of SWIFT which was and is an insignificant roadblock.
 
Anyhow, that disagreement aside, your sentiment reminds me a lot about how the Russians speak about the Arabs. It is common knowledge that people like Putin believe that monarchies and authoritarian regimes are the only good fit for Arab culture
You're a bong right? You haven't met many Mexicans. They aren't very sharp. And a lot are criminals. A dictator to put down the cartels and rule over the land is what they fucking need, not the warlord system with the cartels controlling half the country.
If you’re Christy Walton and you’re personally spending your money to fund the upcoming 6/14 riots, you don’t care HOW it crashes, as long as it DOES crash.

Only the useful idiot caste cares about the details, like the environment and the hypothetical dignity of illegal immigrants. The people who pay the useful idiots are paying for the end result
Yes. But if they torch your neighborhood because #eat the rich, suddenly you have a problem. Again, they can't control their pets. And a lot of thr upper class is getting old and dying. The scrubs are taking the levers of power in the Dems, and they are retarded as fuck.
 
:smug: What’s that, conservacuck? You think there should be LAWS against throwing Molotov cocktails at cops? That’s adorable. Don’t you know what a fucking bootlicker that makes you? You’re practically begging for Pmurt’s Nasty Girls to rub their butts on your butt and give you butt germs. Maybe you want butt germs, but an independent thinker such as myself doesn’t.
 
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instead of tariffs on Mexico, is there a reason why this hasn't been done or would be a bad idea? Could this not be a way to reduce the incentive for Mexicans to come and incentivise more to fuck off back to Mexico?
Honestly, probably the labor, it's convinient for a lot of power groups in the US to continue keeping the flow. That said, unlike tariffs, it would not be a death knell for the Mexican economy, it's an important component for sure but it's not as large. I think in general it's probably one of the better mechanisms for steming the tide of illegal immigration, although it might have the side effect of getting people already here to cut ties with their families and instead stick arround permanently, who knows!
 
You haven't met many Mexicans. They aren't very sharp. And a lot are criminals. A dictator to put down the cartels and rule over the land is what they fucking need, not the warlord system with the cartels controlling half the country.
To be clear, I don't necessarily disagree with the sentiment myself. My only point of disagreement is that I think PRI one party rule in Mexico that existed after the revolution was ideal until it was infiltrated by globalists who studied in elite American and British Universities.
 
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The "its just property" argument is now the common one.
They will cry that they should be allowed to damage anything they want because it is just property and the insurance companies will pay to fix it.

Except the insurance companies back out all the time. The impacts of the Fentanyl Floyd riots are still being felt because that shit was not rebuilt because insurance did not pay out.
 
The Democrats increasingly cannot control their own mob. They have devolved heavily into retardation as their upper class has gotten old and geriatric. They have little ability to do much else but attack like a thug. Their collective thinking skills are all but gone.
They haven't really had a control over them for decades, they just controlled the perception about the mobs. "Peaceful protest" and all that shit. Now everyone with a phone can document Paco burning down a car while waving a mechicano flag and tyrone being his truest self.
 
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