Ernest Tomlinson / Pnictogen Wing / The Pnictogen System / Chara Dreemurr / Kara Dreamer / monophylos / Chelydros / Undertale LARPer - Unemployed middle-aged Communist furry lunatic troon acid casualty whose headmates include videogame characters and his own dead brother, "Undertale Swapped My Gender"

[Solid Snek]

At first glance it's funny that a guy who is #plural and all his #headmates are coincidentally #video_game characters is telling people "I AM TRAUMATIZED BY GAMES." But I guess it makes sense that he feels more strongly about video games--this sense that if he doesn't play the same ones as his friends he's letting them down--because of that. He can't just enjoy something; he has to fold it into his personal gnosis (as the kids say).

I think it's a lot of things coming to a head. Ernest got booted (?) from Bluesky when enough people got tired of his behavior, which is of course completely justified and reasonable behavior from his standpoint. There's something in that tirade about his "wife and metamour" which sounds like RL friction, reasonable in any relationship and more likely if your troon wife is pissy about social media drama.

...and again, the new chapter of Deltarune just came out. Still wondering if he's afraid to play that because it might change his characters' headmates' canon. Acquaintances might be asking him if he's played it, because c'mon it's his whole personal brand, but what they think is small talk is deeply distressing to Ernest. This could be why "Frisk" is complaining about seeing more of "Chara's" friends in the last few days, and not liking how chatty and horny they are.

I wasn't aware there was a new Deltarune; you could be right! Autists don't like change, even in the best of circumstances, and Ernie's already shown how distressing he feels violations to the "CWCville Canon timeline" are to him.

A lot of Otherkin psychos just brush it off - I'm thinking like Jin, and how "Twilight Sparkle" stopped being "real" on the MLP TV show after she moved into his closet and started her exciting new career as Jin's personal horse-shaped fuck toilet. But this could be Ernie's way of letting us know that, as much as he WANTS to play vidya, he's worried he'll throw a fit if some of the characters turn out to be different than what he expected.

(still not sure how this fits in with Morrowind trauma, though? afaik I've never seen him mention any Morrowind headmates, or even Morrowind head-house-guests. Also, the current trending Elder Scrolls is the remaster of Oblivion, not Morrowind, so if there's any talk of Ernie replaying it, it'll have to be the original version, not a newfangled version that fucks stuff up for him. I'M LOOKING AT YOU, GUY WHO VOICED THE RACIST ARGONIAN COMEDIAN IN OBLIVION REMASTER)

 

[Aunt Carol]

A lot of Otherkin psychos just brush it off - I'm thinking like Jin, and how "Twilight Sparkle" stopped being "real" on the MLP TV show after she moved into his closet and started her exciting new career as Jin's personal horse-shaped fuck toilet. But this could be Ernie's way of letting us know that, as much as he WANTS to play vidya, he's worried he'll throw a fit if some of the characters turn out to be different than what he expected.

This is a good point. If something in the update changes canon, he's had no problem disregarding/mutating canon in the past, but that moment of change has to be difficult to stomach. Maybe now that he's sucked the "reality" out of Undertale and everyone's living in his head, it's uncomfortable to play it.

This would go with how he said he went crazy on purpose, in order to bring his brother back, and he knows everyone thinks he's crazy. All the furry troons are breezing by and telling him "hey there's another update to that thing you like," but Ernest's buckling down to completely change his worldview, if someone dies or turn evil or whatever.

I asked the farmers in the Undertale thread if anyone wanted to give an expert opinion.

 

[Symbol of the Chud]

This is a good point. If something in the update changes canon, he's had no problem disregarding/mutating canon in the past, but that moment of change has to be difficult to stomach. Maybe now that he's sucked the "reality" out of Undertale and everyone's living in his head, it's uncomfortable to play it.

This would go with how he said he went crazy on purpose, in order to bring his brother back, and he knows everyone thinks he's crazy. All the furry troons are breezing by and telling him "hey there's another update to that thing you like," but Ernest's buckling down to completely change his worldview, if someone dies or turn evil or whatever.

I asked the farmers in the Undertale thread if anyone wanted to give an expert opinion.

This shit is giving me an autism headache, but if this mentally ill retard is upset, it's probably got something to do with the newest chapter of Deltarune spelling out very clearly (it was already spelled out) that half of the cast aren't real even in universe, and are just manifestations caused by the existence of darkness that causes them to take form in "dark worlds"

Also the funny meme skeleton is fucking the main character's mom, so maybe that?
Also the main character of Deltarune is confirmed to be working with the villain, so maybe that?

I can't get in the headspace of somebody who is larping as a serial killing demon, sorry.

Edit: yeah, looked deeper into it, if he "fully fell in love with Toriel" the implication that the funny meme Skeleton that in Undertale absolutely fucking pulverized Chara (who he thinks he is, I guess???) in a boss fight over and over is fucking her is extremely fucking hilarious.
Then again, Chara is Toriel's adopted child, to add an extra layer of creep to this creature.

 

[Mrsneksnekson]

This would go with how he said he went crazy on purpose, in order to bring his brother back,

Well, in the 4th chapter a character is kinda resurrected from the dead

Spoiler: Spoiler for Chapter 4 of Deltarune

Gerson Boom, who ironically is a stand in for old fantasy writers (Lewis, Tolkien). He was a small bit character in undertale he fought in the monster-human war likely lost his wife and never had a child so was old in the game. If you play the "evil" or genocide route he insults and taunts the player.

A small note, when monsters die they turn to dust and usually at their funerals their dust is scattered over their favourite item in life.

In Deltarune, he died but of natural causes, with his son, Alvin, who is a priest for the monster religion, and wife (unknown name) surviving him.
In Chapter 4, a dark fountain, to be as simple as possible, creates a fantasy world based off its creators personality and the inanimate objects near where it was created, and the location of creation impacts the world too. The more a person imprints on an object the stronger (not necessarily physically) the character of the awakened item is.

Gerson is resurrected in a sense from his own ashes and his hammer, which are contained in a glass case.

Edit another thought on the above: Additionally, there is a second part where they open another world and Gerson is brought back wrong, Pet cemetery style which could impact too.

Edit: forgot to include if there is something particular you want me to check out that they've said let me know and I can take a look. The schizo ramblings are hard to tease apart for me.

Second spoiler:

Spoiler: Kris spoilers from Chapter 4

If playing the evil route (for more info look up "snowgrave" or "weird" routes or ask me and ill do my best!)
The main character, Kris, being controlled by the player forces a change on another character in the game. The graphics on launch could be considered sexual assault took place, that wasn't the implication being put forward more so the loss of innocence of a character, so it could be fucking up ernst day with that too.

 

[Solid Snek]

This shit is giving me an autism headache, but if this mentally ill retard is upset, it's probably got something to do with the newest chapter of Deltarune spelling out very clearly (it was already spelled out) that half of the cast aren't real even in universe, and are just manifestations caused by the existence of darkness that causes them to take form in "dark worlds"

Lol, yeah, that could be a factor. Earlier, we worked out that at least part of the reason why Larper hates CS Lewis (the guy who wrote the Narnia books) is because CS Lewis' version of King Arthur is different from the Fate/Stay anime version of King Arthur, whom Larper believes to be real. He's also got mad at people for saying that Gilles de Rais (a historical serial killer IRL) was, you know, a serial killer IRL, because apparently the Fate/Stay version of Gilles de Rais is friends with Larper and would totes never be a serial killer.

I know next to nothing about Undertale and Deltarune, which makes Ernie's ramblings doubly hard to read, because he stacks layer upon layer of undiluted autism in almost every post, and seems to either assume his readers can follow along, or doesn't care if they can.

Chara and Frisk are the two characters he seems to bring up the most; are they "real" in universe? Frisk especially, because Frisk is the spirit of Ernie's dead brother, so if the game dev messed with Frisk at all, he'd basically be killing Ernie's brother a second time.

 

[Mrsneksnekson]

Chara and Frisk are the two characters he seems to bring up the most; are they "real" in universe?

Yea they are, both are real to their games.

In undertale, Frisk is the name of the character you control. You name them whatever you want but if you get the best ending they tell people their name is Frisk at the end. They are mostly a blank slate stand in for the player but once or twice show their own actions.

In Deltarune, Kris is a human adopted by a monster family. Its unclear why they were orphaned but the experience kinda fucked them as the monster parents didnt know how to properly look after a human. You also control Kris but they have a lot more agency than Frisk does and will contravene your actions at times and have their own agenda, wants and desires.

If there are references to darkners, those are the fictional characters in game come to life.

 

[The Lawgiver]

You know, for claiming to be Kris, this guy's like the complete opposite of a silent protagonist. Any list of all the fuckers he has in his head? No I'm not makign social media accounts to view them but they're probably out there, just not in the OP.

If there are references to darkners, those are the fictional characters in game come to life.

less fictional characters come to life and more like weird sentience-ified concepts or objects made real throught he darkness stuff unless I'm misremembering some instance of a guy who wasn't real becoming real. I mean you already got the monster guys from undertale in there that got vague normal non-dark magic shit behind them existing. There's still occasionally weird implications that they existed in some form beforehand despite not being "real" in some weird cases like how spamton and tenna and mike are all connected as guys that used to work together... that and the pipis/mysterious blue eggs being a weird recurring funny element.

 

[Symbol of the Chud]

Lol, yeah, that could be a factor. Earlier, we worked out that at least part of the reason why Larper hates CS Lewis (the guy who wrote the Narnia books) is because CS Lewis' version of King Arthur is different from the Fate/Stay anime version of King Arthur, whom Larper believes to be real. He's also got mad at people for saying that Gilles de Rais (a historical serial killer IRL) was, you know, a serial killer IRL, because apparently the Fate/Stay version of Gilles de Rais is friends with Larper and would totes never be a serial killer.

I know next to nothing about Undertale and Deltarune, which makes Ernie's ramblings doubly hard to read, because he stacks layer upon layer of undiluted autism in almost every post, and seems to either assume his readers can follow along, or doesn't care if they can.

Chara and Frisk are the two characters he seems to bring up the most; are they "real" in universe? Frisk especially, because Frisk is the spirit of Ernie's dead brother, so if the game dev messed with Frisk at all, he'd basically be killing Ernie's brother a second time.

A bit of a side tangent, but that bullshit with Fate King Arthur is extremely funny, because Fate has a multiverse with both male and female King Arthur (in fact, before the game was retooled to sell to coomers, King Arthur was actually originally a man)
Also, Fate Gilles de Rais iirc, the very first appearance he has involves him murdering a small child with some horrible summoned tentacle beast.

There's no Frisk in Deltarune, though the mentall ill schizo might equivocate Kris (the protagonist of Undertale who appears similar to Frisk, has the same adoptive parents, and has a name that's only a letter off being an anagram), in which case, that could be the cause for the anguish, as the new chapter revealed without question that Kris is an antagonist working outside of the player's control (The player being some sort of entity that controls Kris' actions most of the time.)

 

[Rock Eater]

He’s mad SAN’s Undertale is cucking him from his goat mommy.

(At the newest chapter of the game at the end they’re dancing together drunk)

 

[The Lawgiver]

He’s mad SAN’s Undertale is cucking him from his goat mommy.

(At the newest chapter of the game at the end they’re dancing together drunk)

I'm just envisioning how many of the funny characters fromt he game would react to this guy if he was kris.
Stuff like "KRIS! I DON'T CARE HOW MANY [friend inside me] YOU HAVE. MOTHERS AREN'T FOR [cheap viagra]!" or some shit like that.

 

[Aunt Carol]

Any list of all the fuckers he has in his head? No I'm not makign social media accounts to view them but they're probably out there, just not in the OP.

There's this archived from 2022, but it doesn't mention Alyx_Woodward (daughter of his old unicorn personality Monophyos who trooned to Mona and then (??) has its own Mastodon account, and Mordred who just signs ~Mordred from the main account.

After the recent Bluesky spanking, Ernest moved to Mastodon. @kazuhiro found those accounts, including the two dragons (last two on this list) that don't talk much on their shared account1.

@Spunt since it's gonna be that kind of party, the OP probably needs a cast list. Maybe after the "DID Autism" spoiler.

 

[The Lawgiver]

The things aren't even properly listed on this official list! that makes it even more fucking confusing!

since it's gonna be that kind of party, the OP probably needs a cast list. Maybe after the "DID Autism" spoiler.

100% agree on this. Gotta catch em all.

 

[Aunt Carol]

The things aren't even properly listed on this official list! that makes it even more fucking confusing!

For someone palpably nutso and very into all this, Ernest has weird gaps in his DID LARP.

Usually plurals love to make lists of their personalities, and this dude has nary a carrd in sight.
He used to have a rubric for which emoji he'd use for which character, but he gave that up quickly and just went to ~signing posts, before he left Bluesky.

Here are caps of him telling another headmate he has to consult with "Mono and Loki probably too, and maybe even Dreamscorcher," so presumably those are also headmates but they don't like to post on social media. Also Ernest has J.J. Hunsecker (as played by Burt Lancaster) in his head, but we haven't heard from him yet either.

Further down in that digest (posts prefaced by "Humor."), he said that (Ernest's) dad studied tuna populations, and he phrased it as "our RL dad." Not "the body's dad" or "our biological father," but "RL dad." Almost as if... this isn't real? You're not sposta say that where they can hear you!

Ernest uses "Kris" as the main and body-owner, and that's the name on the Mastodon account, but when he's Ernie-posting he most often signs it "~Chara." But he still has them talk to each other, too.

 

[Spunt]

I've updated the OP. I've included characters that he has expressly mentioned as headmates. He says that he "talks to" others (largely Gods and anime characters), but I'm not sure they're permanent residents. He's into occultism and magick, so he may just chat with them over some sort of eldritch Zoom call.

 

[kazuhiro]

Orwell's 1984.

Oxbridge.

Personal disasters.

One of the few people who hasn't turned sour on Ernest.

Alyx brings up Steven Universe. Chara has to step in to explain.

Suicide.

Deltarune.

Undertale & Deltarune & Chara & Frisk & Kris & Mona.

Artificial Intelligence.

The post Ernest references.

G. K. Chesterton.


C. S. Lewis.

Sir Mordred, to Frisk: "I bring you the head of Clive Staples Lewis, who almost claimed your little sibling for Hell."

#SCIENCE.

 

[Aunt Carol]

I've updated the OP. I've included characters that he has expressly mentioned as headmates.

Don't forget Alyx Woodward, who is the daughter of (two of?) his characters and also the "science officer" and a horse.

 

[kazuhiro]

- Chara Tomlinson - This is Ernest himself, physically. He's a woman, you see, and an Undertale character, of course.
- Monophylos/Mono the Unicorn - This is Ernest's fursona, but also seems to be an alter.
- Kris Dreemurr - Undertale Character. This is Ernest's main "front".
- Kara Dreamer - I don't know if this is a different headmate or one of the others spelled differently, but he sometimes uses this name as well.

I think Kris is the current "host" and Chara is the main front. Kara was the host, and is/was definitely a separate entity from Chara in there somewhere, as well as Asriel and Toriel at one point, see the last two images from 2020 here. I think he was kidding about J.J. Hunsecker specifically, he just likened a "slippery headmate" who was causing the system to lash out to him. Shades of Lou blaming his alts.

 

[Spunt]

Right. I've updated the OP again. Trying to make sense of Ernest's headmates is like trying to grasp water. If this is still wrong I give up. Ernest's brain-damaged "system" is so confusing that trying to study it makes me feel like a Call of Cthulhu character, some things simply cannot be comprehended by human beings and trying to do so will only drive you insane.

I've also added a section on C.S. Lewis and the Fate connection, because fuck me sideways that's nuts even for him.

 

[Solid Snek]

Undertale & Deltarune & Chara & Frisk & Kris & Mona.

OK, yeah, this tracks with what Aunt Carol and our new Undertale friends were theorizing about Ernie and Deltarune. The story and its relation to Undertale is complicated, and there's some aspects of the game that may be hard for "certain fans" to square away. Ernie seems to be taking the "Jin and Twilight Sparkle" approach by saying the Undertale creator is good at stringing motifs together, but maybe doesn't fully understand the source material he's working with. With the implication being that, if Deltarune canon conflicts with what Ernie "knows to be true" about the broader Undertale universe, it's not because Ernie is a schizo and he's built an elaborate fantasy life upon a mere story that a computer programmer cobbled together. It's because the guy who made Undertale doesn't REALLY understand Undertale at all, bless his little heart.

Also, I love this reaction by the dude Ernie is talking to:

Suicide.

Jesus. AGAIN with the tragedyposting.

> "the only reason They don't want you to kill yourself is because They want you to work for Them."
> I get where you're coming from, comrade! But... my brother killed himself... and several of my friends too... I think I feel some sort of emotion about that, dunno what, been trying to figure out if maybe there's more to NOT WANTING A LOVED ONE TO COMMIT SUICIDE beyond mere capitalist exploitation... gosh if only I could work out why you might not want your brother to end his own life... (gif of Ernie making a serious effort to solve Math Equations in his head)

Orwell's 1984.

Of course he manages to make a series of interesting observations about 1984, only to conclude with "so obviously TECHBROS want 1984 to last forever!!! #CalTech"

Gotta wonder, though, if Ernie's not really talking about his own "certainty" that video game characters are real, trying to assure himself that his initial willingness to believe in Chara and Kris is itself proof that he's right, and not schizo...?

G. K. Chesterton.

Again with the Gnosticism.

Maybe this is just my own autism speaking, but I really want to stick Ernie in a room, or at least a flamewar, with James Lindsay (Woke Right Guy), another internet sperg who can judo-flip any conversation into a diatribe about Gnosticism.

C. S. Lewis.

Sir Mordred, to Frisk: "I bring you the head of Clive Staples Lewis, who almost claimed your little sibling for Hell."

Question: was Ernie ever raped by CS Lewis?

I'm not even trying to be funny. We see here that Ernie, apparently, thinks HP Lovecraft is one of his head houseguests, so I guess it's not too much of a stretch to imagine that Ernie might think he's got some kind of direct spiritual connection to Clive Staples, as well.

Ernie seems to love all of Lewis' friends and contemporaries, no matter how nonhuman MAGA fascist terfnazi, including GK Chesterton who is an author you almost never hear mentioned except from your most conservative and religious internet buddies.

It's only Lewis that he fucking hates, and it wasn't ALWAYS Lewis that he hated either, since again: he's said he used to read Lewis a lot, and he must have, because nobody reads the Space Trilogy aside from turbodorks. We know, from his own words, that Ernie had a falling out with Clive Staples over the King Arthur stuff, and likely more too, but this level of vitriol...?

Like, Chris Chan is fucking crazy, right? He'll happily imagine Optimus Prime beating up Donald Trump, or Sonic the Hedgehog kicking the crap out of Mary Lee Walsh. I get it. Sometimes autists do things like this, have childish revenge fantasies.

But an anime knight bringing you the severed head of the author you hate, because said author almost sent you to Hell?!


Maybe it wasn't rape, maybe it was just that Ernie got super into Christianity at one point in the past thanks to CS Lewis, but had to leave because he couldn't square away traditional Anglo religiosity with his newfound identity as a pangendered autist colony for renegade communist video game characters?

 

[kazuhiro]

Right. I've updated the OP again. Trying to make sense of Ernest's headmates is like trying to grasp water. If this is still wrong I give up. Ernest's brain-damaged "system" is so confusing that trying to study it makes me feel like a Call of Cthulhu character, some things simply cannot be comprehended by human beings and trying to do so will only drive you insane.

He switches personas around so much, driven by a semi-logic that can only make sense to him, that there isn't a fixed system. Like, he was big into playing Asriel five years ago, not at all now. Maybe he says it's "poorly mapped" so he always has a get-out for why the human boy can come in to a conversation and explain what the science horse was trying to say.