US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

Helpful links for those who need them:

Current members of the House of Representatives
https://www.house.gov/representatives

Current members of the Senate
https://www.senate.gov/senators/

Current members of the US Supreme Court
https://www.supremecourt.gov/about/biographies.aspx

Members of the Trump Administration
https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/

 

[Conan]

The "nokings" website where all the events are listed, but you can't see the location of many of them unless you sign up and RSVP, is a fucking DHS honeypot and you can't convince me otherwise.

Like I said yesterday, even in the small, very conservative place I live in, there is a protest planned. Shit is not organic.

I was tempted to go but the reward is getting to annoy faggots (which I already did in November by voting Trump) while the risk is getting my life disrupted by some out of town fed. Sorry, not interested.

 

[Clobber3]

https://abcnews4.com/news/local/rep-mace-files-bill-to-label-muslim-brotherhood-as-foreign-terrorist-organization-free-palestine-ted-cruz-wciv-abc-news-4-6-10-2025

https://megalodon.jp/2025-0611-2334-38/https://abcnews4.com:443/news/local/rep-mace-files-bill-to-label-muslim-brotherhood-as-foreign-terrorist-organization-free-palestine-ted-cruz-wciv-abc-news-4-6-10-2025

WASHINGTON, D.C. (WCIV) — U.S. Rep. Nancy Mace announced Tuesday the filing of a bill that would designate the Muslim Brotherhood as a foreign terrorist organization within the country.

According to a news release from Mace's office, the Muslim Brotherhood is a Terrorist Organization Act would activate critical national security tools – financial sanctions, asset freezes, travel bans and targeted law enforcement – to dismantle the group's operations within the United States and globally.

“The Muslim Brotherhood doesn’t just support terrorism, it inspires it," Mace said. “President Trump was right when he said the Muslim Brotherhood is a threat to global security, and it’s long past time we call them what they are: terrorists.”

Hard agree with Rep Mace and Sen Cruz here, it’s far past time we designate the Muslim Brotherhood as a FTO and start going after them with all the sanction / financial / trade tools we’ve got. Of course a lot of their money passes through the Qatari’s so we’ve got a bit of a problem there, but it’s a start.

 

[The Last Stand]

I'll even concede that they do good work because they want to give an incentive for customers to keep coming back. The catch is that I never feel good about taking money out of my local economy to support the black market.

You better hope that the parts used to fix your hooptie aren't traced back stolen.

 

[FILTH Tourist]

General question: Are Mexicans the driving force behind the "protests" I thought it was mostly Venezuelans, Guatemalwhatevs, etc. who are being deported. Or is there no difference made betwens illegals and the Mexicans are just the largest group affected?

And is anyone actually being deported?

Mexicans are the largest group impacted due to their sheer numbers, Hispanics at large are acting as a temporary coalition because Trump is going after all of them, which is in none of their interest. While liberals have joined in due to them being retarded sheep, black people join in to get free shit.

 

[Verdun_Salient]

So I was on Spacebattles, reading their threads about the riots, and I noticed a new term going around, "police riot."

Spoiler: Screenshots

It seems to be a term about how the police are the ones who are actually causing most of the damage. On a related note, I decided to read the article from the Nation, (archive), they posted in the screenshots. I do suggest reading it, it gives an insight into what the leftist thought process regarding this. Here are some particularly intersting parts.

"The idea that cops were just reacting to protester provocation is absurd. Cops occupied intersections in an attempt to split the protest, then occasionally charged the protest lines that surrounded them to force the crowds to temporarily retreat. These assaults seemed unrelated to protester action or lack thereof. At one point, while the cops were unloading round after round of blue-tipped rubber bullets into a crowd hunkered down behind a barricade, a different group of protesters approached from the side and threw a firework into the center of the police line. The cops turned their fire against the group, which ran off, but did not pursue them. Thirty seconds later, the cops were back to shooting at the barricade."

As the protesters marched, they chanted something else: “Whose streets? Our streets!” It wasn’t a declaration of war or a challenge to others who might lay claim to the city, but a statement of obvious fact. As these several hundred protesters marched the wrong way up a one-way street, completely stopping traffic, an overwhelming number of drivers honked and cheered. They rolled down their windows to fist-bump the protesters and take pictures and shout their approval.

When I arrived on the scene, the cops were seriously outnumbered—thousands of protesters, a couple hundred cops. If there had truly been a riot, those cops would have found themselves overrun, disarmed, brutalized. But it was a protest. So they were fine.

I'd paste more, but it would likely be too much, I encourage reading it if only to understand the leftist thought process regarding this

 

[>IMPLYING]

They want their old territory back.

Final hair-splitting: It's not going forwards then, it's going backwards. It's an entitlement of a previous status quo rather than acceptance of the new one, just like the rioters being unable to accept the new status quo of actual immigration enforcement.

The whole "we'll get our land back" is a popular tactic in faux-nationalist (Left-wing nationalism) countries to assert state pride in the absence of action. Argentina pre-Millei, Spain with Vox, and now Mexico.

I think it comes from the contradictory nature of them being Leftist (internationalist) whilst also being Nationalist. China does the same thing with Taiwan, where despite the last 15 years of pot banging, they're no closer to mounting an actual invasion of Taiwan than when they started clamouring. Meanwhile their economy is built similarly to Fascism instead of Communism (directed corporations under "private" (selected) leadership as opposed to being owned by the workers themselves) and only seems to have achieved prosperity from being not very left-wing at all, allowing outside corporations and industries to fuck over their people with scant wages and shit safety regs. How can you be a nation that says to put its citizenry first whilst also subjecting them to shit?

A lot of these nations don't really know how to be Nationalist outside of pure rhetoric. It's an issue with Latin American countries since a shared cultural identity is relatively recent and Nationalist action would probably be of detriment to those benefiting from the current status quo, but they still need to reinforce the idea that, yes, they're for their country and not anyone else, even if their actions don't demonstrate it at all (such as selling land and allowing the growth of Chinese industries as opposed to your own).

A nationalist Mexico (which the current government claims it is) would want their people back from America to contribute to the betterment of the state, whilst finally putting an axe to the necks of cartels that essentially function as a parallel government — I'm sure the current administration would even lend a hand since it benefits both nations.

But no, that's too difficult, too costly, and risks attracting the ire of the cartels. Instead, it's easier to act defiant and hostile to America whilst doing absolutely nothing else to benefit the people who elected you in the first place.

 

[SpergioLeonne]

General question: Are Mexicans the driving force behind the "protests" I thought it was mostly Venezuelans, Guatemalwhatevs, etc. who are being deported. Or is there no difference made betwens illegals and the Mexicans are just the largest group affected?

And is anyone actually being deported?

“Mexicans” is kinda used euphemistically for “brown people illegally crossing from Mexico.”

Unless you’re unemployed and planning on just soaking up whatever aid comes your way, it probably wouldn’t make financial sense for most Mexicans to move here. Make more, but also have to spend more

 

[Old King Koaleamos]

It seems to be a term about how the police are the ones who are actually causing most of the damage, with an article from the Nation, (archive) being the origin. I do suggest reading it, it gives an insight into what the leftist thought process regarding this. Here are some particularly intersting parts.

it's also easy to push because the left's spent 80 years trying to make protests look badass.

 

[Deputy Riddle]

Nah, I just assumed the place was a bunch of young autists (e.g. people like me). Sorry, y’all.

Site is over 10 years old. Autism doesn't stop a dude getting laid. Chris chan is getting some. Here's a tip. Stop the faggot anime, stop with obsessing over representing yourself as a female avatar.

Stop porn, watch and listen stuff that inspires you. Build yourself up. Quit porn. Talk to woman with clear goals and treat them like rando people you wanna do stuff with. Having my 4th kid in February. It's shockingly simple how having a family and good partner is if you try.

 

[Dammit Mandrake!]

They are still building it, but here is the concept art for it.
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I'd suck that dick. Really wouldn't have a choice.

 

[MugolEx]

They are still building it, but here is the concept art for it.
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Big oversight here. There needs to be shielding protecting the the user's body. They are exposed and in a wide stance making them to easy of a target to neutralized.

 

[Jace on ice]

The one positive aspect of all this is there's basically no one on the left still pretending immigration is beneficial.

They're pretty much all openly admitting it's petty cruelty and revenge for perceived historical wrongs.

That's very good for the right and President Trump's messaging.

 

[deleuzeon]

It seems to be a term about how the police are the ones who are actually causing most of the damage.

A delusional attempt to repeat the "it was just some feds with umbrellas" line from 2020.

Yeah, the cops spray painted "FUCK COPS" and "KILL ICE" on every wall and window. The cops burned the cop cars and the cops danced on them with Mexican flags. The cops broke into the sushi restaurant to steal booze. That makes sense.

 

[AndSothisIsChristmas]

Site is over 10 years old. Autism doesn't stop a dude getting laid. Chris chan is getting some. Here's a tip. Stop the faggot anime, stop with obsessing over representing yourself as a female avatar.

Stop porn, watch and listen stuff that inspires you. Build yourself up. Quit porn. Talk to woman with clear goals and treat them like rando people you wanna do stuff with. Having my 4th kid in February. It's shockingly simple how having a family and good partner is if you try.

Who are you talking to? I don’t watch porn.

 

[A ghoul teaching his son]

Hearing them chant "Viva La Raza" sure is a teachable moment as well. Literally it means "Long live the race," the race in question being their own.

If a bunch of white Americans stormed through a Mexican city waving American flags and shouting "Long live our race!" what would be the result? And how would the media react?

Them chanting "Viva Mexico" is worse for optics. You'll still have some that either refuse to view anything along racial lines so they'll justify "la raza" as just "our people" or "our culture", or just straight don't know what raza is. On the other hand, "Viva Mexico" is harder to justify, if it's supposed to be about general latin american immigrant why mexico only? Why have people chanting about this specific country, while chanting about reclaiming land and being violent. Ideally they keep chanting both.

On a side note I always find "la raza" to be absolutely pathetic and hilarious, much like most mexican points of pride. It just means "the race", no specifics because they are all mutts. It's devoid of any real substance and all bravado, like just anything else they cry so much about.

 

[Jace on ice]

Who are you talking to? I don’t watch porn.

Could be literally anyone online man. "You actually have to go outside and talk to women if you want to get laid" is actually good advice.

 

[Lonely khan]

Site is over 10 years old. Autism doesn't stop a dude getting laid. Chris chan is getting some. Here's a tip. Stop the faggot anime, stop with obsessing over representing yourself as a female avatar.

Stop porn, watch and listen stuff that inspires you. Build yourself up. Quit porn. Talk to woman with clear goals and treat them like rando people you wanna do stuff with. Having my 4th kid in February. It's shockingly simple how having a family and good partner is if you try.

He was being contrite brother, no need to pile on.

 

[AndSothisIsChristmas]

Could be literally anyone online man. "You actually have to go outside and talk to women if you want to get laid" is actually good advice.

It is, but it’s not really relevant to what we were talking about, which is the fact that I incorrectly assumed almost everyone on Kiwifarms was about the age I am. It’s just a random ad hominem attack. It also has nothing to do with American politics and I’m gonna stop discussing it so as not to clog the thread.

 

[WelperHelper99]

Final hair-splitting: It's not going forwards then, it's going backwards. It's an entitlement of a previous status quo rather than acceptance of the new one, just like the rioters being unable to accept the new status quo of actual immigration enforcement.

The Mexicans want to go back, America wants to move on, let's be clear.

The whole "we'll get our land back" is a popular tactic in faux-nationalist (Left-wing nationalism) countries to assert state pride in the absence of action. Argentina pre-Millei, Spain with Vox, and now Mexico.

I think it comes from the contradictory nature of them being Leftist (internationalist) whilst also being Nationalist. China does the same thing with Taiwan, where despite the last 15 years of pot banging, they're no closer to mounting an actual invasion of Taiwan than when they started clamouring. Meanwhile their economy is built similarly to Fascism instead of Communism (directed corporations under "private" (selected) leadership as opposed to being owned by the workers themselves) and only seems to have achieved prosperity from being not very left-wing at all, allowing outside corporations and industries to fuck over their people with scant wages and shit safety regs. How can you be a nation that says to put its citizenry first whilst also subjecting them to shit?

A lot of these nations don't really know how to be Nationalist outside of pure rhetoric. It's an issue with Latin American countries since a shared cultural identity is relatively recent and Nationalist action would probably be of detriment to those benefiting from the current status quo, but they still need to reinforce the idea that, yes, they're for their country and not anyone else, even if their actions don't demonstrate it at all (such as selling land and allowing the growth of Chinese industries as opposed to your own).

There is nothing faux about their nationalism. They aren't smart. They are beaners. They believe in the idea of taking 'their' land back, the state paying for shit, all while being proud of being Mexican.

A nationalist Mexico (which the current government claims it is) would want their people back from America to contribute to the betterment of the state, whilst finally putting an axe to the necks of cartels that essentially function as a parallel government — I'm sure the current administration would even lend a hand since it benefits both nations.

But no, that's too difficult, too costly, and risks attracting the ire of the cartels. Instead, it's easier to act defiant and hostile to America whilst doing absolutely nothing else to benefit the people who elected you in the first place.

Mexico wants its people here so they can send remittances back. They are occupying the territory without having to actually conquer it. They send their earnings back home. It literally makes up 3.5% of their GDP. It's why in part they are rioting. They are thieves.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Imagine living in California and having your taxes paying for this.

One jew and mostly boomers that look VBNW.

They love it.