Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[Harvey Danger]

He has stated multiple times, on the record, that his ebidance is literally just ebidance that he got pissed and that he got made fun of.

He has zero evidence of anything else, but look even where he claims - Steve wasn't a witness to copyright infringement, he was a witness to it making Greee mad.

Yes and no. That's a good description of his "evidence" so far. However in the May 6th hearing, he claimed he has further evidence of Josh doing contributory infringement.



I think everyone here understands the flaws with this notion. But Russ doesn't. He's got a folder of iPhone screencaps somewhere, and he's desperate for the judge to give him the go-ahead to dump them into the docket and collect his thousands of dollars.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

He's got a folder of iPhone screencaps somewhere, and he's desperate for the judge to give him the go-ahead to dump them into the docket

Given his willingness to dump screenshots of whores, I'm honestly surprised he has NOT already dumped them in some motion. I think he knows they're worthless shit, and he's still holding out on Null deciding to settle.

 

[Swole McPole]

He can't believe anyone would see the world differently from him, and he can't believe the law works differently than he imagines it. So naturally he can't believe the court would approach this case any differently than how he wants.

Sometimes I think it's this. But at other times, I think he's smarter than we give him credit for. He knows it's all bullshit, but he's deploying his 'disability' to attempt to trick people into giving him more latitude than he would otherwise be getting.

And he's not completely wrong in his approach. He's like those guys who approach every hot girl they come across and proposition them for sex. 19 out of 20 will tell them to GTFO. But 1 in 20 will go for it. And consequently, they get to sleep with more hot women than everybody else. You just need to have the complete lack of self respect it takes to be rejected repeatedly.

I think Greer's approach is the same. He's got no brains. No money. No talent. No personality. He's got fuck all. The one thing he does have is persistence. And a complete lack of shame. So it doesn't matter at all if the court rejects all of his motions. It doesn't matter if they don't believe anything he says. As long as they don't throw it out, as long as he's costing null money, he's winning.

Because the lawsuit has nothing at all to do with copyright infringement. The lawsuit is about burying publicly available information. Greer has a long term plan, but none of his long term plans can succeed if potential investors, future collaborators, anyone who might contemplate going into business with Greer can look up his information on the internet and find out just how toxic the man is.

So he goes for the big lie: Kiwifarms is evil. It's users kill people. And he repeats it ad infinitum, in the hope that by doing so, he'll be able to conceal a much bigger truth -- that Russell Greer is a sociopath who stalks young women and attempts to bully them into submitting to his perverse sexual urges. And this is not just an opinion. There's a mountain of court findings that make this a matter of fact, repeatedly proven in a court of law. Burying that fact is pretty much a life or death issue for Greer, so he'll do or say anything that he can that brings him closer to his goal.

 

[Not At All A Lizard]

I'm pretty sure he just means the original screenshots of the original posts. And/or Null posting his DMCA requests. If pressed on it, he would say he "misspoke" and meant someone posted it on his forum, not him posting anything himself.

He tends to do that.

 

[Harvey Danger]

I'm pretty sure he just means the original screenshots of the original posts. And/or Null posting his DMCA requests. If pressed on it, he would say he "misspoke" and meant someone posted it on his forum, not him posting anything himself.

He tends to do that.

That's what I thought as well, but... I'm not going to help Russ with more about it.

 

[somevan712]

he would say he "misspoke"

Simple explanation:

 

[Pascal's Wagie]

That's what I thought as well, but... I'm not going to help Russ with more about it.

Even though I'm as far from an Officer of the Court as one could be, I do have one morsel of sage advice for Russ: Press your disabled retard face against a Xerox machine and file the resulting Retarditron Emission Tardography in a Motion to Make Me Not Retarded and Disabled-Faced Anymore. But save it for ECF #420. That's the key here.

 

[Disgruntled Pupper]

I am still 50/50 on Greer just being obstinant or wether there is something in there that is really embarrassing.

I think it's mostly that he just doesn't want us to see it. He's extremely pissed that all of his stupidity is on display for us to laugh at. He #1 stated goal is to get his thread shut down, and he is still desperately trying to get the judges to put the entire case under lockdown.

Add spite because he doesn't want to do anything for Null or Hardin and doesn't think he should have to, no matter what the cuck judge says, and there you go.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Simple explanation:
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I didn't say he was mentally insane, I said he was fucking Goofy!

 

[YouTube Autist]

I eagerly await Gree motioning.

Will he tell the magistrate NO U?

Will he bring up the 10th again?

We he demand sanctions on Hardin again?

Will he bleat "ITS NOT FAAAAAAAAAIR".?

BEtter than TV. Really.

The one thing we know he'll bring up is Hardin's leaving the contact info of his witnesses unredacted.

 

[cromit]

He's got a folder of iPhone screencaps somewhere,

And if he has them, he has to disclose them. Those are the rules. Literally FRCP 26(a)(1)(A)(ii), the Rules. The fact that he has not is in itself sanctionable. Admitting he has evidence and then refusing to disclose that evidence is an independent reason to dismiss this case. He can have, or possess, or control, or have custody of, any documents that would prove what he’s saying, but to actually use them as proof, he has to disclose them to Hardin.

He’s one of those snivelly little assholes who tries to do this whole thing by ambush. And he’s so mad at KF in general that he thinks Hardin doesn’t deserve to see his evidence or mount a defense to it. The federal rules haven’t allowed that for decades. Cases are decided on what the facts reveal, not on what facts a plaintiff can conceal. The fact that he’s still hiding the ball means that he not only knows his evidence ain’t shit, but that he also refuses to play this court game by the rules. It’s on his terms, or not at all.

Which will turn into “not at all,” because his terms are ridiculous and offend traditional notions of fair play in several ways.

 

[TurboNAS]

Greee's excuses made me curious, so I went back and kept track of some of them. All from Greee's filings.

This should sum it up:
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Spoiler: Excuses

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I swear I can hear all these excuses to a beat. This might be the best Greer song of all.

And if he has them, he has to disclose them. Those are the rules. Literally FRCP 26(a)(1)(A)(ii), the Rules. The fact that he has not is in itself sanctionable. Admitting he has evidence and then refusing to disclose that evidence is an independent reason to dismiss this case. He can have, or possess, or control, or have custody of, any documents that would prove what he’s saying, but to actually use them as proof, he has to disclose them to Hardin.

Look buddy boy, I’ve watched a lot of Perry Mason and it’s no problem to spring evidence on the prosecution and introduce last minute witnesses that totally prove the thing.

Also, what’s this frcp junk? Is that a post from FreeRepublic? I heard that’s a MAGA CHUD site so I don’t see why you’re referencing them.

/sneed

 

[Wahgonga]

I think Greer's approach is the same. He's got no brains. No money. No talent. No personality. He's got fuck all. The one thing he does have is persistence. And a complete lack of shame. So it doesn't matter at all if the court rejects all of his motions. It doesn't matter if they don't believe anything he says. As long as they don't throw it out, as long as he's costing null money, he's winning.

Yeah, Russ really only has two primary goals. Having the money to fuck hookers, and punishing his enemies.

By teasing and then denying the paperwork he was ordered to produce, he gets to taunt and punish his enemy. He thinks he's in control. Were he to comply and actually send out the paperwork to Hardin, then he no longer has control. He probably doesn't even remember what it was about, he just knows that Null/Hardin want it.

Same thing with the refusal to pay the monetary sanctions. It's a double win to him as he gets to once again punish his enemy while at the same time retaining that cash to add to his next hooker rendezvous fund, or for gas money for his next aimless whorehouse land purchase scheme.

 

[The Dude]

He has stated multiple times, on the record, that his ebidance is literally just ebidance that he got pissed and that he got made fun of.

He has zero evidence of anything else, but look even where he claims - Steve wasn't a witness to copyright infringement, he was a witness to it making Greee mad.

Shit-Lips has been laboring under the delusion that all he needs in order to take someone to court and win is to file a lawsuit with the court stating that he is a victim and tell the court how he is a victim. He doesn't seem to understand that he requires evidence to back up his claims of victimhood, that said evidence must be factual, credible, and high quality, and that the other party is allowed to defend themselves from his allegations as vigorously as they possibly can, and that he himself must provide the other party with materials that can aid in their defense if necessary. He really does believe court is like going off to tattle to an adult because another kid called him a name and the adult will just believe any bullshit he feeds them because he was born with a fucked-up face, so that automatically makes him the victim. And he has been laboring under this delusion for the better part of a fucking DECADE without once coming to the realization that court doesn't work like that.

 

[RodgerDodger]

Shit-Lips has been laboring under the delusion that all he needs in order to take someone to court and win is to file a lawsuit with the court stating that he is a victim and tell the court how he is a victim. He doesn't seem to understand that he requires evidence to back up his claims of victimhood, that said evidence must be factual, credible, and high quality, and that the other party is allowed to defend themselves from his allegations as vigorously as they possibly can, and that he himself must provide the other party with materials that can aid in their defense if necessary. He really does believe court is like going off to tattle to an adult because another kid called him a name and the adult will just believe any bullshit he feeds them because he was born with a fucked-up face, so that automatically makes him the victim. And he has been laboring under this delusion for the better part of a fucking DECADE without once coming to the realization that court doesn't work like that.

He's never made it past the "Assuming Everything the Plaintiff Says is True..." early stage of the case before. So he seems to think that the Court simply assumes everything he says is the truth (and by default everything the defendent says surely must be a lie). he somehow fails to grasp that he has to prove his case via some objective means of evidence. He also fails to grasp that consistantly lying to the court makes them view him as a lying liar that lies.

 

[Sexy Senior Citizen]

He really does believe court is like going off to tattle to an adult because another kid called him a name and the adult will just believe any bullshit he feeds them because he was born with a fucked-up face, so that automatically makes him the victim.

He also thinks if he can just show his droopy face to normies and explaaaaaaaaaaain his plights, they'll feel sympathy for him. He primarily appeals to emotion, since that's about the extent of his mental faculties.

 

[Watching Rekieta]

Considering how the judge has been tardguarding thus far, I'm going to guess that he'll opt for case-ending sanctions in the combined motion for sanctions and moot the motion to dismiss. He won't have any further monetary sanctions beyond the ones he's already issued since he went for the most severe sanctions, terminating the case.

I'm a bit more cynical considering the tard-guarding to-date.

Is it possible the judge wanted Hardin to submit everything by 6/30 so he can "Motion DENIED" everything all at once? If all the submittals on sanctions, dismissals, etc, are filed it seems he can clean sweep it all away with nothing pending. Assuming Greee pays by 6/30, can the judge wipe it clean and then move to discovery again? My fear is that if he was looking at dismissal, Hardin's "judicial economy" argument would mean a lot less moot filings for judge to read. Why does he want to read Hardin's filings if he was going to dismiss anyway? But if he was going to stick it to Josh and KF, he's not going to want trickle in motions over 2 months with approved delays for sanctions/dismissal. Did he make them submit everything so he can wipe it all out on 7/1 and give Greee a brand new slate? Closing all the griping down might seem attractive to judge even if it's lazy.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

If the court really wants to fuck over Greee, they won't dismiss. They'll force him to trial.

 

[ConSluttant]

And if he has them, he has to disclose them. Those are the rules. Literally FRCP 26(a)(1)(A)(ii), the Rules. The fact that he has not is in itself sanctionable. Admitting he has evidence and then refusing to disclose that evidence is an independent reason to dismiss this case. He can have, or possess, or control, or have custody of, any documents that would prove what he’s saying, but to actually use them as proof, he has to disclose them to Hardin.

He’s one of those snivelly little assholes who tries to do this whole thing by ambush. And he’s so mad at KF in general that he thinks Hardin doesn’t deserve to see his evidence or mount a defense to it. The federal rules haven’t allowed that for decades. Cases are decided on what the facts reveal, not on what facts a plaintiff can conceal. The fact that he’s still hiding the ball means that he not only knows his evidence ain’t shit, but that he also refuses to play this court game by the rules. It’s on his terms, or not at all.

Which will turn into “not at all,” because his terms are ridiculous and offend traditional notions of fair play in several ways.

I've kind of been waiting on this. But I think that Hardin hasn't even been able to ASK for this stuff in discovery. Hardin literally made the first discovery request - produce all of the damn court cases you've been in you idiot - and Greee had a 404 error + conniption fit crash out; claiming that it would be a hardship on him, the GODDAMN PLAINTIFF, to actually spend a single fucking dollar prosecuting his own case since he would have to go grab a ton of shit from Pacer and other places which would eat into his hooker fund. Which sent us spiraling in this direction 6+ months later.

In the forest of information most cases would have, Hardin hasn't been able to pry out a single leaf from Greee. And the one leaf Hardin DID get (the two initial witnesses, not poor mostly-dead Steve) were crumbled up into leaf dust and blew away when he sneezed in their general direction - again with another conniption fit crash out from Greee.

Now, if Russ has actually denied other discovery requests that would produce those stupid screenshots, then yeah, the whole case needs to be nuked from orbit. With a lot of sanctions piled on top. We are getting there. Stay the course Kiwisisters. The road to Valhalla is long and windy. But the reward when it is reached? Priceless!

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

It's not even Hardin's job to ask for evidence that proves Greee's side; it's Greee's job to provide it. And 1000% we'd get a "I forgot to provide any evidance but here it is" illegal motion during trial.