US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Well the protests in LA were about 5 streets and a few hundred people. LA is a sprawling metropolis. So "we" is everyone who wasn't there. Or about 99% of all people
Most of those 99% don't give a shit either way. They do not support or condemn the ICE raids. If they did, they'd be counter-protesting to drown out the anti-ICE riots.
 
Who's "we"? If the reaction to the ICE raids are any indication, they're not that popular.
"We" means "America." Unlimited immigration is not popular. Every time any variant of "anyone who wants to come here should be allowed if they just fill out a form" is proposed, it's soundly rejected by the voters.
 
So what Old Lady Vanderberg has to lug her luggage up the stairs by herself?

Marx was a retard.
Also, Old Lady Vanderbeg is (probably) a recipient of state welfare, ergo she's also a lumpenprole. Granny will lined up against the wall if need be.
“All the classes that stand in the way of the bourgeoisie and the proletariat will perish.”
The Communist Manifesto (1848 )

He was also of the view that everyone who existed under the bourgeoisie was being oppressed by them since the true value of their labour (or even lack thereof) was being stolen from them. The former top dogs, the landed aristocracy, weren't able to benefit from the full value of their land since that which they bought from the land's workers (peasants, farmers) and subsequently sold off (farmed produce, cash crops, and so on) would still only see its true value through the processes owned by the bourgeoisie, hence the full value of their labour/assets don't truly belong to them. This is what enables Marxist billionaires btw, since they're technically being oppressed too.
 
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Considering how much Lynn has become a festering shithole even in the grand picture of MA. Honestly their just doing pest control, I hope they take more people to the cemetery to tool them up. Maybe they can do that in Lawrence,Lowell, and Springfield too to send a message.
I'm hearing that Chelsea is a ghost town right now. Half of the city is Vietnamese and the other half is Dominican.
 
Marxists have always had very valid critiques of market economies and anyone who's not a deranged utopian ideologue acknowledges it. It's just that their proposed alternatives are ten thousand times worse than the problems they critique.
The old, this is on fire but lets put it out with gasoline ideology. Makes sense.
 
Says the obvious bridgestone sales rep

There’s no repairing anything that’s not a puncture. A puncture will not lead to a blowout, it will lead to a flat. Have you ever seen how tires are patched?

They don’t sell retreads, but it doesn’t matter if a tire is retreaded. In the early 2000’s, the feds went Karen and took down a study from the nhtsa that said retreads and new tires had comparable failure rates, coincidentally around when the Bush family friends, the Firestones, had drama with a scandal. I’m sure it’s completely unrelated

Why do you hate the environment and money so much?
saving 250 dollars but having your tire blow out on the highway because juan carlos fucked up the retread in his weed haze
 
Marxists have always had very valid critiques of market economies and anyone who's not a deranged utopian ideologue acknowledges it. It's just that their proposed alternatives are ten thousand times worse than the problems they critique.
For all the shit I say about Marx, Das Kapital is a good criticism and analysis of capitalism. As you said, it's just that his political prescriptions were pants-on-head stupid.
 
When you patron the black market for any reason, you are contributing to its existence and all the stuff that it entails. You fund not just the shady Latinos who fix your shit after haggling, but you also give them an incentive to stay and keep working.
Exactly. This is kind of the point I was leading up to. The thing is, I won't judge anyone for going for the cheapest price, especially with how dubious and vague the legal status even is to begin with. I don't think you can outright blame the average person for going "wow Google said the prices here are cheaper" and pursuing that, because, again, it's the cost effective option. But that's the thing. The average person isn't making some stance on immigration or illegal aliens or grandstanding about any of it. They just want their car fixed. The implications are there, sure, but blaming this type of person for being a part of WHY things are so shit is stupid. In reality, it's people who are completely aware of the legal status of the labor they are requesting and engaging with it anyway that are problem. The first step is bringing local awareness to the issue, the second step is putting the money where the mouth is. Everyone I know irl has no fucking idea about some raids that are happening in-state.
Honestly it’s usually a 50/50. Illegal immigration is certainly out of control but the way things have been rigged an unfortunate truth is that for a lot of businesses illegal labor is the only way to stay viable. I can guarantee you most smaller restaurants are filled with illegals in the kitchen
Again, fine, but the same time, if you're engaging with this system while actively disavowing it, there really is no difference between that and being a marxist who makes 145,000 dollars a year through hyper-consumerist bullshit. Then again, I haven't really even had the privilege of having a car to fix recently, so the idea that the people are actively engaging with and even directly funding the illegals they're claiming they want nothing to do with comes off incredibly unprincipled.

TL;DR - If you're going to complain about illegals that you KNOW are actively profiting FROM YOUR OWN VOLITION then I think you're retarded and disingenuous.
 
If they did, they'd be counter-protesting to drown out the anti-ICE riots.
they don't live in the bluest city of the bluest state of the country you retard

'protests' and 'demonstrations' always skew massively towards urbanites (leftists) because of population distribution.
a significant majority backs trump, but they're spread out across the rural parts of the country.
meanwhile the minority that opposes trump is tightly concentrated in coastal urban bughives, which is where all these protests and demonstrations happen.
 
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