Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

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Mark Goldbridge said:
Once a few regiments of tanks cross the Dnepr River, the war is over.
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Pre-2022, maybe. In the current day they'll get swarmed like they kicked a hornet's nest by FPV drones the second they start trying to roll across any pontoons or bridges. This is a problem both sides face and until a decent countermeasure can be discovered (before it too inevitably gets countered), the only way to stop or diminish this would be for one side to cripple the other's drone production/deployment. Or kill enough combatants that they can't find anyone to sit behind the monitor and kamikaze drones all day.
 
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Keystone said:
Pre-2022, maybe. In the current day they'll get swarmed like they kicked a hornet's nest by FPV drones the second they start trying to roll across any pontoons or bridges. This is a problem both sides face and until a decent countermeasure can be discovered (before it too inevitably gets countered), the only way to stop or diminish this would be for one side to cripple the other's drone production/deployment. Or kill enough combatants that they can't find anyone to sit behind the monitor and kamikaze drones all day.
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I meant more as a symbolic moment, not that there will just be tanks that cross.
 
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Candlelight Desolation said:
Oh yeah, at the rate this is going Russia has this in the bag unless something drastically changes in Ukraine's favor. It's only a matter of time.
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iirc this year Russia is taking an average of like 25 square kilometers a day so far. As the Sumy offensive speeds up (especially after capturing Yunakivka) I could see this pace getting bumped up to 35+ and possibly 50 if they get Sumy itself and Pokrovsk.
 
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iirc this year Russia is taking an average of like 25 square kilometers a day so far. As the Sumy offensive speeds up (especially after capturing Yunakivka) I could see this pace getting bumped up to 35+ and possibly 50 if they get Sumy itself and Pokrovsk.
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It really will be exponential because the Ukrainians are thinning out. All that's holding Russia back right now are drones but this can quickly become overwhelming as the front expands further into much less densely populated territory. Foreign legions are also drying up because of the actions of the Ukraine dictator.
 
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The Institute for the Study of War is unbelievable dog shit

-1 million Russian casualties
-Since Russia's losses have reached a million, the economy will not be able to withstand it and will not be able to pay all the bonuses for injuries and deaths.
-Russia invented soldiers that are paid for their job called volunteers.
-Contract soldiers, as opposed to forced conscripts as in Afghanistan, is politically genius.
-We should seize Russian assets since they are never going to do business with us anyway because we were holding their assets as hostages.
 
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White_N said:
-Since Russia's losses have reached a million, the economy will not be able to withstand it and will not be able to pay all the bonuses for injuries and deaths.
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They did not mention Russia returning 6000 bodies forces Ukraine to pay 400 million dollars to their families, did they? From the already non-existent budget that had to default on its loans last month.

I swear, Institute for the Study of Cope projects harder than an IMAX.
 
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The body exchange finally happened. Russia handed over the first tranche of 1212, and got 27 in return. That's not an error. Twenty-seven. Ukraine is now planning to take its time identifying, even though Russia has already done this for them.
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I don't know how true this claim is. I thought that Medinsky said 6,000 was the total
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And this story is a couple of days old, but it appears that the document that the Ukrainians gave to the Russians in Istanbul, and the document they gave to the press purporting to be a copy of that document, weren't exactly the same. Will any of the western press admit to having been conned? Of course not.
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White_N said:
The Institute for the Study of War is unbelievable dog shit

-1 million Russian casualties
-Since Russia's losses have reached a million, the economy will not be able to withstand it and will not be able to pay all the bonuses for injuries and deaths.
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I'm pretty sure now that a lot of the figures that Ukraine gives to the press have a large element of truth behind them, but they just swap the names Ukraine and Russia round at the top of the columns. I wonder if the 42,000 Ukrainian casualties Zelensky spoke of a while back is some accurate assessment they've got of real Russian losses.
 
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