2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

[John Andrews Stan]

spy ship does spy shit and gets caught in the middle of a major war 60+ fucking years ago. I bet you're the kind of nigger to complain that the British use to impress us sailors.

Facts and reason are wasted on these mamzers. They are deeply invested in not acknowledging or understanding reality.

 

[Maori Kiwifruit Growers]

Facts and reason are wasted on these mamzers. They are deeply invested in not acknowledging or understanding reality.

What I don't understand is why they keep posting it like it's some sort of "gotcha". It's tiresome.

 

[Frederica Bernkastel]

What I don't understand is why they keep posting it like it's some sort of "gotcha". It's tiresome.

He has a pink triangle for a reason.

 

[Maori Kiwifruit Growers]

He has a pink triangle for a reason.

How exactly does one get it? Does Null just give you one as to label you an exceptional retard?

 

[Surfin Terf]

What I don't understand is why they keep posting it like it's some sort of "gotcha". It's tiresome.

I still don't think I've seen a single motive presented for it beyond "(((they))) wanted to hide something"... which seems strange since apparently (((they))) also have such firm control over the US government that the US also "covered it up".

What could they possibly be hiding that was worse than sinking a US military ship? You would think a secret of such significance would have had some impact in the last 50 years.

An attack on Iran is a bad idea.

Maybe... but I think from a strictly neo-realist perspective that war with Iran is inevitable and now is the best time. Iran has internal problems, their proxies are on the backfoot (to say the least), they've expended a significant percentage of their missile stockpile to no effect back in October, they are facing a massive drought, Russia doesn't have much assistance to spare... meanwhile Israel is already on a war footing.

Personally, I'm not sure. I tend to be more of a neo-liberal, but I also think that neo-realist perspectives are cognitohazard in that if one actor has them then it becomes the dominant paradigm... and autocracies tend to be more neo-realist.

 

[Maori Kiwifruit Growers]

I still don't think I've seen a single motive presented for it beyond "(((they))) wanted to hide something"... which seems strange since apparently (((they))) also have such firm control over the US government that the US also "covered it up".

What could they possibly be hiding that was worse than sinking a US military ship? You would think a secret of such significance would have had some impact in the last 50 years.

What are ((((they))))) hiding? It's been an open secret that Israel has nukes since....well they started their program. I am 100% sure that sn over zealous Commander did a stupid because it was the middle of the yom Kippur war and "we missed a massive army build up we won't miss an Egyptian spy ship" was something that went through someone's head. But again....it was 60+ years ago. Hell Vietnam is our ally now and we were fighting them for over a decade.

 

[Abowaffen]

Maybe... but I think from a strictly neo-realist perspective that war with Iran is inevitable and now is the best time. Iran has internal problems, their proxies are on the backfoot (to say the least), they've expended a significant percentage of their missile stockpile to no effect back in October, they are facing a massive drought, Russia doesn't have much assistance to spare... meanwhile Israel is already on a war footing.

You're probably right that Iran is at its weakest right now, but I always believed that Israel/US should only attack when Iran actually tries to make the nuke. I'm also concerned that the Ayatollah will chimpout in unpredictable ways if Iran is thoroughly humiliated, like the destruction of Iran's nuclear energy industry.

 

[Maori Kiwifruit Growers]

You're probably right that Iran is at its weakest right now, but I always believed that Israel/US should only attack when Iran actually tries to make the nuke

That's what is happening. Seriously break out is soon

. I'm also concerned that the Ayatollah will chimpout in unpredictable ways if Iran is thoroughly humiliated, like the destruction of Iran's nuclear energy industry.

Let then chimp out. Post oct 7 has once again shown that Muslims and arabs are paper tigers. They will scream but not bite. If you want to defeat them you must treat them the way they wish to treat you. We lost iraq 2 because we had restraint. we lost Afghanistan because we tried to put our western bullshit into a country that barely sees woman as people.

 

[John Andrews Stan]

I always believed that Israel/US should only attack when Iran actually tries to make the nuke

They’ve been developing nuclear capabilities since before the Islamic Revolution and have never stopped. The Iran deal was one of the most suicidal agreements America has ever made.

 

[Silence of the Troons]

I do hope very much that Greta and the other people on this voyage don’t do an Epstein while the cameras in their torture prison mysteriously fail. This regime is capable of any depravity, and almost completely protected from scrutiny by Western nations.

One day later:

 

[John Andrews Stan]

One day later:
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The best part was how, when Greta spotted media cameras at the airport, she put her hands behind her back and pretended she was handcuffed. This autistic worm knows what she’s doing.

 

[555777555]

An attack on Iran is a bad idea.

It's a perfect idea. Iran is a radical Islamist state that should not be allowed to develop nuclear weapons. If they do, they will gladly trigger a nuclear apocalypse so that they die as martyrs and go to heaven.

 

[Vertigo]

Iran’s nuclear chief Mohammad Eslami says the new enrichment site has already been built and is ready to begin operations once machinery is installed. Source [a]


I didn't know you could erect a nuclear facility in a matter of days. That is unless Iran is being slimy and didn't give a shit about what foreign powers think of their nuclear proliferation program and enriching Uranium to weapons grade was their whole plan.

How many red flags do we need to have before we can act? Come on.

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For the first time in months, 56 World Food Programme aid trucks entered northern Gaza directly through the Zikim (Erez West) Crossing, Israel’s COGAT announced. The move was approved by Israeli leadership and security officials. Until now, aid was only entering via Kerem Shalom in the south. Source

HOWEVER

International source in Gaza tells Israel Army Radio: Most of the aid trucks that entered Gaza last night were robbed before reaching their destination. Source

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Thousands of Islamists are flying into Cairo from across the Arab world and Turkey hoping to break the siege on Gaza, only to be deported as soon as they land.One angry Turkish national at Cairo Airport said, “It’s not the Israeli occupation army, it’s the Egyptian army that’s expelling us. History will record it.” Source
(Translated with Whisper)

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The Gaza Humanitarian Fund accuses Hamas of attacking a bus carrying its members, claiming that at least five of them were killed. Source

Continuing from this story:

Gaza Humanitarian Foundation (GHF): After Hamas security forces attacked and killed 8 GHF aid workers on a bus last night, a crowd gathered at the scene, forcing Hamas forces to retreat. The dead and wounded were evacuated by the Red Cross to Nasser Hospital in Khan Younis. Hamas threatened the hospital staff not to provide them with medical treatment. All the injured and deceased aid workers were left in the hospital’s parking lot. As of today, they remain there without medical care. Source

 

[JesterTheMad]

What are ((((they))))) hiding? It's been an open secret that Israel has nukes since....well they started their program. I am 100% sure that sn over zealous Commander did a stupid because it was the middle of the yom Kippur war and "we missed a massive army build up we won't miss an Egyptian spy ship" was something that went through someone's head. But again....it was 60+ years ago. Hell Vietnam is our ally now and we were fighting them for over a decade.

The US knows we have nukes, who do you think give the technology to us?

 

[Maori Kiwifruit Growers]

The US knows we have nukes, who do you think give the technology to us?

unironically the french and then it was a joint South African - Israeli program.

 

[JustSomeDong]

who do you think give the technology to us?

>American traitors (I will call a spade a spade and I ain't sorry) engineer a "muff," and cause a hell of a flap, before the coverup.
>Israel magically acquires a buttload of nuclear material. The same exact amount that went missing. I'm sure the isotope ratios don't match any of America's processing sites, though. No, sir.
>Lots of backroom bitching and backchannel diplomacy occurs.
>The Beltway Kosher KoverUp Krew lays on the pressure.
>We "let it slide" because having a few tons of nuclear material go missing would look pretty bad, there's a Cold War, and after all, Israel is our Greatest Ally!
>give

lol. lmao even

 

[John Badman]

Facts and reason are wasted on these mamzers. They are deeply invested in not acknowledging or understanding reality.

We should kill all Mossad operating in American territory. Spies fuck around and find out. Who cares if they’re an ally? Maybe we’ll paint it as a false flag so Israel can invade Iran.

 

[Abowaffen]

That's what is happening. Seriously break out is soon

Is there a way Iran could cuck out without looking like it cucked out? And still maintain their civilian nuclear industry? (I'm trying to think of a way Israel can remain safe without bombing Iran, maybe all nuclear processing sites could be directly overseen by a third party?)

 

[Maori Kiwifruit Growers]

Is there a way Iran could cuck out without looking like it cucked out? And still maintain their civilian nuclear industry? (I'm trying to think of a way Israel can remain safe without bombing Iran, maybe all nuclear processing sites could be directly overseen by a third party?)

That was the US/Trump proposal. Bring down enrichment to 3% (the rest being handed over to the usa or the IAEA or something like that) then a regional enrichment distribution system would be set up (aka what most countries have, where they build the plants and the usa/EU/Russia or something (I'm not that knowledgeable about the inner workings) provides the enrichment materials thus ensuring that the nuclear material is only used for power not weapons) at which Iran would relinquish the remaining 3%. So Iran gets the sanction and power needs it requires, no one gets a bomb and KSA has access to nuclear power too. Remember Israel "technically totally doesn't have a nuclear weapon or maybe it does we'll never say" and the Begin doctrine means that if any middle eastern power gets a wmd of any type Israel will see it as an existential threat and destroy it.


Also if Iran gets a nuke then Saudi arabia will get a nuke which means Egypt will want a nuke which means that jordan will want a nuke which would mean iraq would want a nuke which means syria would want a nuke which would mean Lebanon would want a nuke so then of course Algeria would want a nuke if egypt has one and if Algeria wants one well the Morocco has to have one and if egypt wants one then Ethiopia wants one and if Ethiopia wants one then Eritrea must have one...etc etc you get the point. And that's all putting aside the religious justification Iran uses to wanting to destroy Israel. Seriously that's why they are funding Palestinians/hamas instead of the half assed shit the rest of the mid east does.


Basically when it comes to nukes only "advanced" countries should have them in my opinion. So that's usa, Russia (was the Soviet Union), uk, france, israel, china, and apartheid south Africa. The reason is that these nations have the skills and ability to safe guard the nukes, or accidents and are (despite rehtoric) smart enough to not launch nukes for non existential reasons. India I have some trust in due to it's large industrial base and the fact it's a more competent government/ military with checks and balances (however the recent war really puts that into question) and Pakistan and North Korea I have zero faith in. Iran I have negative faith.

 

[Abowaffen]

That was the US/Trump proposal. Bring down enrichment to 3% (the rest being handed over to the usa or the IAEA or something like that) then a regional enrichment distribution system would be set up (aka what most countries have, where they build the plants and the usa/EU/Russia or something (I'm not that knowledgeable about the inner workings) provides the enrichment materials thus ensuring that the nuclear material is only used for power not weapons) at which Iran would relinquish the remaining 3%.

Welp, if Iran rejects this then fuck em' I guess. Maybe Khamenei is bored of life and wants to die a martyr.