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Senator Tammy Duckworth on Senator Alex Padilla: "He tries to ask a question ... and what do we see? The response is really pure un-American authoritarianism, and it should scare us all because if they can do this to a US Senator, they can do this to the average American."

 
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CaliforniaRaisin said:
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Bughives are the least American parts of America. The American Embassy in Beijing or Russia is more American than a bug hive. Sovereign American soil in the land of heathen chicomms or evil Bond-villain Russkies is more dedicated to America and Her Ideals than many actual American "population centers."

Not the best metric for your own point.
 
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Oulun said:
That's the 1962 flag of the United Farm Workers, led by the famous Cesar Chavez to whose specifications his cousin Manuel allegedly designed the flag. I've looked into this before but never gotten a straight answer out of anyone, which leads me to believe Cesar was just among the first of the now numerous latino neo-Nazis.
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Didn't Chavez fucking HATE illegals because they were backstabbing scabs who fucked over his labor rights protests? I swear I remember watching an interview of his where he talks about them with pure disdain.
 
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Jump said:
There is no excuse for hiring illegals when there is the H-2A visa program for farms.
https://www.farmers.gov/working-with-us/h2a-visa-program
If the need is really so great then they can hire H-2A's and respect labor laws and treat them fairly. And if your doing that then maybe local labor might actually be competitive. Because if your going to have to pay legal wages and OT might as well try hire locally to have not deal with the H-2A paperwork. And if a H-2A over stays their visa they are banned from the USA for life. So most will just follow the law and go home when the job is done.

Farmers who say they NEED illegals would rather just have a slave class they can work for $5/hr for 12hrs a day. It's just pure greed.
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Which is more or less what he already said before the mass deportations. You can keep your slaves if you make sure to give the government their pound of flesh.

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US Thread 'Trump floats plan for undocumented farm and hotel workers to work legally in the U.S.'


President Donald Trump suggested at a Cabinet meeting Thursday that undocumented people working on farms and in hotels would be allowed to leave the country and return as legal workers if their employers vouched for them.

Trump said at the meeting with reporters present that “we have to take care of our...
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This is the big one here folks. The Federal Government has just seized control of the entire watershed of the west coast. Oregon, Washington and California have just been told to shove it. Washington DC is in charge. No more "Understandings" and court settlements.
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Washington and Oregon were destroying hydroelectric dams to "save" the salmon so it's amazing news that Trump is stopping them from that insanity.
 
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WelperHelper99 said:
Motherfucker I lived in Illinois, shut the fuck up. Dad would take me to the farm show every year to get a day off school. They have tech. It's ridiculously expensive for most of the small fries. Manual labor is in high demand retard. Machines aren't taking over even with them.

You still need people though. It's not this wireless skynet bullshit you technerds are selling.
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I like you, but as a former farmer, and someone whose seen the farmers in action in my tiny hick town.

We use tractors, what you're thinking of is people who know how to do tiny repairs, and people to help clear foliage and debris from the fields, yes its true that we cannot just have one guy doing the fields, farmers gotta work together in teams with someone using the vehicles, and someone on the ground helping them out in anyway we can.

Now I will play devils advocate and tell you to look at what john deere and what theyve been doing to farmers, because then you are justified in not wanting farmers to use this shit.
 
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CaliforniaRaisin said:
You might think it's dumb, but clearly you don't live in a population center or you'd know it's more true than false.
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its the pay in most cases. there are tons of jobs that are lighter physical labor and arguably far less stressful than desk jobs with tighter deadlines and performance demands that whites wont take because you simply cant start a family on those wages and they have no avenues for advancement just an energy pit that makes it harder not easier to gain higher wages later on.
 
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Catch The Rainbow said:
Spoke to someone who explained to me how the Israelis figured out how to deliver the GBU-57 MOP using an F15I. I'm trying to verify if it's possible and so far the math is working out.
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You guys don't own any though. It's 30,000 pounds and that is the max weight limit of a F-15EX, the new model.
 
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msd said:
I like you, but as a former farmer, and someone whose seen the farmers in action in my tiny hick town.

We use tractors, what you're thinking of is people who know how to do tiny repairs, and people to help clear foliage and debris from the fields, yes its true that we cannot just have one guy doing the fields, farmers gotta work together in teams with someone using the vehicles, and someone on the ground helping them out in anyway we can.

Now I will play devils advocate and tell you to look at what john deere and what theyve been doing to farmers, because then you are justified in not wanting farmers to use this shit.
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It's not that I don't want them to use it. I'm just saying that a fully automated farm like Factorio or whatever isn't happening. And yes I know about John Deer. Fuck those niggers. Heard about them since Obama and their tech buggery.
 
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Didn't Chavez fucking HATE illegals because they were backstabbing scabs who fucked over his labor rights protests? I swear I remember watching an interview of his where he talks about them with pure disdain.
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He didn't mind calling them "wetbacks" or "illegals" for this very reason. From his perspective they undercut everything the labor organizing efforts stood for.




Chavez also at one point had people patrol the border to watch out for anyone crossing it.
 
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WelperHelper99 said:
It's not that I don't want them to use it. I'm just saying that a fully automated farm like Factorio or whatever isn't happening. And yes I know about John Deer. Fuck those niggers. Heard about them since Obama and their tech buggery.
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ahhh thats what you meant, then yes I agree, and think the same. A fully automated farm can never, and will never be a reality.

Unless these robos can clean up after severe storms, and survive knee deep mud and flood waters, we will never fully automate farming.
 
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