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An interesting article CBS did on the events in Los Angeles:

Fake videos and conspiracies fuel falsehoods about Los Angeles protests

As demonstrations against Immigration and Customs Enforcement raids continue in Los Angeles, misleading videos, conspiracies and false claims have spread on social media.

Many of the posts recycle longstanding conspiracy theories, which have often been revived during past episodes of civil unrest. Some posts have made claims that wealthy individuals engineered or financed the protests, and they have racked up millions of views online.

Some posts exaggerate the unrest, using videos of past demonstrations to depict a city overwhelmed by violence. In fact, clashes since the current protests began Friday have remained largely confined to parts of Los Angeles County.

Here are some of the most widely shared falsehoods and misleading visuals.

Recycled imagery and video game footage​

Some politicians, conspiracy theorists and social media users have posted old footage during the protests, falsely describing the clips as current. While Los Angeles has seen some vandalism and property damage in the current protests, the mix of outdated and recent videos has created confusion.

One widely shared video of vandalized police cars set ablaze, which was posted by far-right conspiracy theorist Alex Jones and Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas on Sunday, was originally from news coverage of May 2020 protests in response to the death of George Floyd.

On the same day, a video showing people setting a Jeep on fire was described as undocumented immigrants pouring gasoline over the vehicle in Los Angeles on Saturday. However, the footage dates back to a street takeover in the city's Hyde Park neighborhood in March 2024.

The old clips were shared on the same day five driverless Waymo vehicles were set ablaze during the current protests. But the recycled footage gave the misleading impression that such incidents were more frequent and widespread.

On Sunday, two days before Marines were ordered to deploy to Los Angeles, old and unrelated footage falsely claimed to show them arriving. One video, which showed Marines driving to their base hundreds of miles away in San Diego County, was misrepresented as showing them entering Los Angeles.

Darren Linvill, a professor at Clemson University and social media disinformation researcher, told CBS News said even the smartest social media users have difficulty telling old content from authentic images in fast-moving situations.

"Sometimes that sort of content is spread by people who are doing it purposefully with some kind of agenda, but most often it's spread by people who just didn't understand the context that they saw it in," Linvill said.

Some social media users also posted footage from a video game during the protests, making it appear that there had been a significant military escalation. A video posted on Sunday was falsely described as showing protesters firing at National Guard jets. In fact, the footage is from the tactical military simulation video game Arma 3, which has previously been used to spread misinformation.

Inaccurate debunks​

Amid the recycled imagery, authentic pictures of National Guard members sleeping on the floor of a federal building in Los Angeles this week were falsely described as old or unauthentic.

The images were initially published by the San Francisco Chronicle on Monday and republished by California Gov. Gavin Newsom on X, who said they served as proof that the deployment was poorly planned, and claimed the soldiers were "without fuel, food, water or a place to sleep."

Some social media users said the images were old and depicted soldiers at previous deployments. Grok, X's AI chatbot, determined the images were likely from Afghanistan in 2021.

However, the images are authentic. Using images published by the U.S. Northern Command and other videos posted to social media, CBS News independently confirmed the images were taken from the loading dock area of the Robert Young Federal Building.

Later, a spokesperson for the U.S. Northern Command confirmed to CBS News that the image was authentic: "The soldiers you saw in the photo were resting as they were not currently on mission and due to the fluid security situation, it was deemed too dangerous for them to travel to better accommodations. The soldiers have ready access to food and water as needed."

People on X have been tagging Grok more often to help verify visuals during these protests with mixed results, according to Isabelle Frances-Wright, the director of technology and society at the Institute for Strategic Dialogue, an independent think tank that examines disinformation online.

"While AI is muddying the landscape, people are also now turning to AI as their primary source of fact checking," said Wright.

Conspiracy theories​

Conspiracy theories alleging rich donors orchestrated the protests have also resurfaced, echoing patterns from past demonstrations.

One widely shared claim involved images of stacked bricks, which social media users falsely presented as supplies planted by billionaire George Soros to incite violence. These posts reached millions across multiple platforms.

One poster shared a photo of bricks that they claimed were left near "ICE facilities." However, CBS News found the image was actually taken from the website of a Malaysian building materials company.

Rumors about pallets of bricks were also debunked after Black Lives Matter protests in 2020 and reemerged in 2021 during Kyle Rittenhouse's trial and 2022 during Roe v. Wade protests.

Linvill said although the types of misinformation around the Los Angeles protests have followed a familiar pattern, people on both the right and the left are more willing to believe something is fake or staged than they used to be. Many people also assumed the photos Newsom posted of National Guard troops were fake, said Linvill, warning of the risks this poses.

"While fake things are very dangerous, it's also dangerous to assume that everything is fake. And I feel like that is becoming more pervasive for people to just dismiss the evidence in front of their eyes," he said.

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Iranians don't set our immigration policies or pretend to tell us what they should be. Of course, Jews don't do that unilaterally either; but it's not Iranian names on the Hart-Cellar act, it's not an Iranian poem on the statue of liberty, it's not "the Iranian revolutionary spirit," and Iranians are not "rootless cosmopolitans." This reminds me of when people act like Qatar is the number one foreign influence on the US.
Again, if the Iranians aren't at fault neither are the jews. Your logic is retarded.
You act like anyone else can tell you sand niggers apart.

Iran is literally the #1 sponsor of global terrorism.
 
If you want to get technical the US is just as much of a fan of funding proxy groups as Iran is. But rather than counter it with your own proxy groups a la the Cold War. We have now moved into just striking them directly because we are unable to neutralize their proxy groups. Even if we try to directly. Such as Israel being wholly unable to squash Gaza in this case.
 
Again, Israel is the only reason why Iran even exists and wasn't crushed by Iraq in the 1980s.

They also funded Hamas, the "moderate" Syrian rebels, and countless other terrorist groups in order to destabilize their neighbors.
The Israelis really like trying to play their neighbors against each other, on occasion this backfires terribly but often it has gone well for them.
 
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and what might be the cause that has iran wanting to do that? could it be israel and their bullshit shenanigans? @FILTH Tourist also no you were right zion don strikes again, fell for it again.
So Iran is too big of bitches to fight Israel outright and has to kill unrelated civilians and attack the militaries of other nations. Got it.

Iran isn’t Saudi Arabia, and neither are Indonesia, even though they’re all Muslims. Your perspective is equivalent to retarded leftists thinking that all Hispanics in the US are illegal Mexicans, even though Argentines, Venezuelans, Colombians, Ecuadorians, Peruvians, Cubans, etc. all exist and all hate each other for various reasons.
I got a wake up call on this years ago. I worked security for a meat processing plant as summer job. The night shift was 100% Guats (non-citizen workers with actual documents, imagine fuckin that). the day shift was mostly local citizens and some mexicans (also documented non-cits) to pad numbers.
I guess some manager didn't did the notice that there were different species of spic, and had some Guats work during the day durning 4th of July so they could run all the lines due the locals being off for July 4th.

They ended up losing nearly the entire shift's output because one of the Mexicans stabbed one of the Guats over some retarded spic beef and then there were some other fights before it was broken up. They had to close the whole plant overnight to fully scrub the processing floor.
 
How do you guys thinks SCOTUS is going to rule on Trump's national guard use? It's probably going to go to them at some point if they decide to take up the case.
 
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Again, if the Iranians aren't at fault neither are the jews. Your logic is retarded.
You act like anyone else can tell you sand niggers apart.

Iran is literally the #1 sponsor of global terrorism.
Half this thread be like "ISLAM IS RELIGION OF PEACE AND ACHMED ABU-GOATFUCK IS NOBLE THULEAN WHITE MAN! HE CUT OFF HEADS OF INFIDELS BECAUSE DIRTY JEWS MADE HIM! HASBARA! HASBARA! HASBARA! HASBARA!"
 
Some politicians, conspiracy theorists and social media users have posted old footage during the protests, falsely describing the clips as current. While Los Angeles has seen some vandalism and property damage in the current protests, the mix of outdated and recent videos has created confusion.

One widely shared video of vandalized police cars set ablaze, which was posted by far-right conspiracy theorist Alex Jones and Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas on Sunday, was originally from news coverage of May 2020 protests in response to the death of George Floyd.

On the same day, a video showing people setting a Jeep on fire was described as undocumented immigrants pouring gasoline over the vehicle in Los Angeles on Saturday. However, the footage dates back to a street takeover in the city's Hyde Park neighborhood in March 2024.

The old clips were shared on the same day five driverless Waymo vehicles were set ablaze during the current protests. But the recycled footage gave the misleading impression that such incidents were more frequent and widespread.
guys, it's okay. the clips were old. it was just a bunch of mexicans being violent, unruly pieces of shit during OTHER riots, not this one! that makes it totally fine!

you truly do not have enough hate in your heart for journalists, no matter how many piranhas you wish would swim up their urethras.
 
So Iran is too big of bitches to fight Israel outright and has to kill unrelated civilians and attack the militaries of other nations. Got it.
yes. and thats also now our problem because of israel. fuck i hate semites.
yeah don you can stop posturing because we know they wont and we all know this is now you building pretense. "you have a second chance to agree to die, or die" yeah great terms there donnie
 
You forget that the F-15 is an American plane and thus hard physical limits like "max takeoff weight" are mere suggestions a sufficiently determined and demented group of persons can easily circumvent.
True. Still, that will be a feat if they can strap a 30,000 pound bunker buster to it.
I don't know about "all out war" exactly but we did okay for a proportionate response after one of our ships hit a mine the Iranians had laid in international waters, killing nobody but almost sinking it.
Operation Preying Mantis was absolute domination on the Iranians. A great video on it here:
 
In my personal life, on an individual level, Jews aren’t in even in my top 5 Most Disliked. Hell, I contracted for the better part of a decade with literally the biggest name ambulance chasers in the country (and many lesser ones) and have very few scars from the experience relative to Jeets and some others. If you’re a wordcel/high verbal IQ: Jews are mostly just time/energy vampires.

But at the societal level, they’re absolutely Problem Number One in our elite class and it’s not even remotely close. I still haven’t been able to square that particular circle: how do you root them all out of America’s power structures without Doing A Hitler (expulsion not ‘bunga)?
it's not possible within an egalitarian democratic society, a system like that is incapable of defending itself against an adversary that can blend in and integrate while still maintaining strong group cohesion and in-group preference.

personally i'd like to remove jewish access to political power and influence, without negatively impacting the majority of jews who have no political ambition and do not seek power over the gentiles. but how that could be achieved without completely upending the ruling notions of egalitarianism and democracy, i have no idea.
 
Our children will know a safer, less Islamist and more peaceful world.
I'm sure you're right. I'm certain Iran has seen the error of their ways and isn't giving the green light to various terror cells to begin killing civilians in Western nations.
It's very important that the U.S. government, owned and operated by Israel, continue funding things that directly get Americans, and others, killed.
 
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