2025 Israel vs Iran War

Welfare Bum said:
Or that they recognize diplomacy and peaceful resolution being off the table means that there is no reason not to target civilians.
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I'm sure that wouldn't end up with their shit getting rocked more now that israel has proven tehran effectively defenseless to their air force, in an all out shit flinging war israel has the upper hand
 
Tabriz has been getting hit hard, looks like a lot of missiles went up. Iran says they downed an Israeli drone in the area:


Israel is using transport planes (?) in the attack, here they are over Syria (no clue what they're for, maybe tankers?):
 
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EyeGuy said:
Tabriz has been getting hit hard, looks like a lot of missiles went up. Iran says they downed an Israeli drone in the area:
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Since Iranniggers can't protect it, they should just hand it back to the Azeris. This is the perfect time for Erdog to invade and take it over.
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Gerelatha said:
I'm sure that wouldn't end up with their shit getting rocked more now that israel has proven tehran effectively defenseless to their air force, in an all out shit flinging war israel has the upper hand
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I doubt they give a shit. 1000 Iranian civilians get killed? Doubt anything will change. 100 Israeli civilians get killed? Well there would be even more riots than there are now in Israel, Netanyahu's already abysmal approval rating will drop even lower, and talks of how Israeli AD systems prioritized protecting military and intelligence assets rather than schools and homes will be everywhere. Israel is a tiny country with few very comfortable people. It wouldn't be able to hold up to that level of pain.
 
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Welfare Bum said:
I doubt they give a shit. 1000 Iranian civilians get killed? Doubt anything will change. 100 Israeli civilians get killed? Well there would be even more riots than there are now in Israel, Netanyahu's already abysmal approval rating will drop even lower, and talks of how Israeli AD systems prioritized protecting military and intelligence assets rather than schools and homes will be everywhere. Israel is a tiny country with few very comfortable people. It wouldn't be able to hold up to that level of pain.
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Keep doubting israel lol it's worked out for the axis of resistance so far
 
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mindlessobserver said:
I wouldn't put too much stock in Saudi Arabia and Jordan joining a potential beat down of the Iranians. At the same time though neither intend to help the Iranians either. Saudi Arabia because there is no benefit for them doing so and nothing but downsides, and as for Jordan much the same. This was always the state of play for those countries even before October 7. Realistically, Iran's biggest allies were as you say. Syria, Hezbollah and Hamas. All three have been removed from the board.

That should have been Tehrans que to get up from the table and cash in what few chips they had left. But religious nut cases are pretty bad at deviating from a course of action once they have committed too it. Their only true trump card left was the untested nature of their air defense capability. Which in theory was developed to stand off an attack from the United States, which is capable of bringing in way more firepower then the Israelis. That it collapsed in spectacular fashion to a unilateral Israeli attack is honestly shocking. I don't think anybody expected that.

The whole game has been upended and Iran doesn't have anymore cards left. If they were smart this is the time to surrender. Its not checkmate yet, but the game has been decided and the checkmate is inevitable. But again, they are run by religious nutcases.
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I'd argue that both have something to gain from it. Jordan also has a lot of palestinians and Iran creating trouble in the area risks Jordan having their own regime collapse, a nuclear attack on Israel could easily hit Jordan in a way that it won't be able to recover, especially if it pollutes the water shared between the two countries. Saudi Arabia wants to be a global power and Iran is their biggest issue to this point.
 
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Gerelatha said:
Keep doubting israel lol it's worked out for the axis of resistance so far
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it actually worked out pretty great for palestine who with a few phone cameras managed to make israel internationally hated overnight.

edit: "why does that matter faggot" because it effectively ends israel who have gone from boomers and past generations largely supporting them to even the right wing in the youth only half supporting them, and who knows how tepid the support in the pro half is
 
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EyeGuy said:
Israel is using transport planes (?) in the attack, here they are over Syria (no clue what they're for, maybe tankers?):
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Not tankers. KC-130 refueling pods that have the drogues are mounted outboard of each outboard engine (1 and 4), those look like they just have extra fuel tanks under wing in between the engines (1, 2 & 3, 4). Maybe air launching drones?
 
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Welp; here we fucking go, I guess. Israel was likely planning on doing something like this for a very long time now. Guess it finally came time to actually do it.
draggs said:
Reportedly
-air defense installations bombed
-apartments in Tehran and other cities where high-ranking IRGC and military and political leaders live bombed
-nuclear sites bombed
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I'd imagine the primary targets are any and all Iranian nuclear facilities.
 
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