2025 Israel vs Iran War

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Keep moving them goal posts buddy.


@31. Januar I don't think you understand just HOW unpopular the Iranian Regime is domestically amongst Iranians. These aren't arabs, Iranians hate what their country has become. Now if Iran were invaded ala how we invaded Iraq in 2003, then yes I can see them supporting the regime. But bombing from the air =/= occupation or overthrow. It allows the people to do the heavy lifting without having to worry that an IRGC tank will show up and fuck up their protests.
I'm fully aware how unpopular they are because I know Iranians who are so dispondant with the country their only plan in life is to leave and let it implode. You however seem to have a rosey view of the Iranian people's revolutionary courage: Unless Israel destroys every single IRGC unit (not just staff!), or the army randomly decides it wants to be the army again (despite already having lost its Chief of Staff) and coups the government, no regime change will happen.
The army in this case is outnumbered 4:1 by the IRGC, and has done nothing to protect itself against cullings by the IRGC since the revolution. They're on a tight leash, and the people have been completely broken. Pahlavist LARPing about suddenly one day "the people rising up!" is entirely unrealistic unless the army does something, which it likely will not.

But nobody knows what the future may hold. We will have to wait and see.
 
Usually by starting shit and hiding behind your allies

Not that i'm saying that it's wrong to have allies, i'm just saying Israel prides itself as the strength of the middle east, being that they're pussies that would be nothing without foreign money. It's just the truth, that's how jews act
The Israelis do a lot of our dirty work in terms of striking at our adversaries and the amount of aid we give them is a fairly small proportion of their total military expenditure. We provide them with diplomatic cover and they serve as a very useful proxy and counterbalance against the other regional powers in the region.
 
Usually by starting shit and hiding behind your allies

Not that i'm saying that it's wrong to have allies, i'm just saying Israel prides itself as the strength of the middle east, being that they're pussies that would be nothing without foreign money. It's just the truth, that's how jews act
Yeah, pussies who infiltrated Iran with agents and built an attack drone base within Tehran. War is not supposed to be fair.
 
The Israelis do a lot of our dirty work in terms of striking at our adversaries and the amount of aid we give them is a fairly small proportion of their total military expenditure. We provide them with diplomatic cover and they serve as a very useful proxy and counterbalance against the other regional powers in the region.
Imagine being proud of being israel's sissy money slave

Americans are something else
 
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okay can someone tl;dr the entire thread, is iran doomed
Both countries can't attack one another over land, so they're isolated to missile strikes. From the Iranian side it just looks like Operation True Promise II — the sequel! But if Israel did in fact kill a bunch of Iranian leaders/VIPs in their strike then one side achieved more than the other. You could even interpret Iran's attempt to hit the IDF headquarters as an attempt to do something similar, albeit more shit.

I think the Israeli government wants this to be more than it is currently (Netanyahu's message to the Iranian people also attempts to paint this action as a moral one, not a selfish one, and an escalation would help assure Bibi's position), whilst the US thinks this'll force Iran to the table and make a deal regarding the nuclear shit. The Iranian government is just letting out a lot of hot air at the moment as to not appear weak to both their neighbours and their people, so we'll have to wait and see there if anything comes of it.

I think posters in this thread want more to come from this for entertainment/happening value but I think we're going to see a copy of the Pakistan/India thing not that long ago and be disappointed.

TLDR: Iran got hit harder than Israel, Israeli government might want more to come from this (Iranian overthrow is a pipe dream, re-funding of proxies to keep Israel under threat and foreign aid flowing in is more likely + Netanyahu using war/threats as an excuse as to why he should remain in charge), Iran is ultimately impotent in all avenues of response, geography is a big factor in why escalation is impossible (they don't even share a land border), USA will hope Iran will negotiate with them as a consequence of this.
 
It almost certainly won't. The Saudis and their vassals are all for this, Erdogan is staying out of it because he doesn't like Iran, Qatar can't do anything militarily on its own, Iran's proxies have been so assraped over the last 18 months that they have virtually no capability to assist, and Russia, China, and India literally don't care. Iran is pretty much isolated.
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Iran certainly wants this war to go bigger and they have allies with iraq and pakistan, china will help them indirectly with supplying the materials they need I don’t how russia will exactly help cause they has good relationship with the gulf countries.
 
Yeah, pussies who infiltrated Iran with agents and built an attack drone base within Tehran. War is not supposed to be fair.
The sneaky jew pussies can only afford being sneaky jew pussies with american funding and tech

Without those, they'd still being casting jew magic at their enemies, cope all you want
 
Lie with prejudice for PR purposes to the outgroup.
Pretty much. A jew is incapable of exhaling without an accompanying lie.

You would think diaspora jews would be a little less myopic when it comes to these sort of conflicts. If Iran does get levelled, they are a much easier target than the ones singing and having panic attacks in their bunkers back home.
 
I'm fully aware how unpopular they are because I know Iranians who are so dispondant with the country their only plan in life is to leave and let it implode. You however seem to have a rosey view of the Iranian people's revolutionary courage: Unless Israel destroys every single IRGC unit (not just staff!), or the army randomly decides it wants to be the army again (despite already having lost its Chief of Staff) and coups the government, no regime change will happen.
The army in this case is outnumbered 4:1 by the IRGC, and has done nothing to protect itself against cullings by the IRGC since the revolution. They're on a tight leash, and the people have been completely broken. Pahlavist LARPing about suddenly one day "the people rising up!" is entirely unrealistic unless the army does something, which it likely will not.

But nobody knows what the future may hold. We will have to wait and see.
I think that was what Israel was trying to do in the first press conference. They would need to actually strike the IRGC which could be one of those escalation options, they're not going to hit the supreme leader anymore from the air and that likely would fail to collapse Iran.
 
The Israelis do a lot of our dirty work in terms of striking at our adversaries and the amount of aid we give them is a fairly small proportion of their total military expenditure. We provide them with diplomatic cover and they serve as a very useful proxy and counterbalance against the other regional powers in the region.
No, this is backwards.
We did Iraq/Afghanistan/Libya for Israel.
Everything in the world serves jewish interests right now, because they're the most hardcore loyal to their founding myth and religion.
 
The Israelis do a lot of our dirty work in terms of striking at our adversaries and the amount of aid we give them is a fairly small proportion of their total military expenditure. We provide them with diplomatic cover and they serve as a very useful proxy and counterbalance against the other regional powers in the region.
Don’t you have interracial porn to spam?
 
Imagine being proud of being israel's sissy money slave

Americans are something else
Imagine being a completely effete Eurocuck who needs to hide behind America anytime a dying nation like Russia spazzes out while letting his leaders whore themselves out to every Tom, Dick, and Mohammed who wants to groom children and live off government benefits.
 
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