2025 Israel vs Iran War

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Iran used to be good at coming up with operation names, but I think they have fallen off in recent years.
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Nominative determinism is action.
 
Was that the one where they sent unarmed teenage boys into minefields so their tanks could reach the Iraqi lines or was that one of their other genius ideas?
They started doing that after Operation Dawn 5 failed in 1984, they burned through most of their armor on a failed attempt to capture Basra so they needed new tactics. You will note that "Dawn 5" is a far shitter operation name than "Undeniable Victory" so my theory that there is a causal link between how cool an operation name is and how effective the operation is has been vindicated.

edit: actually I think Dawn 3 might have been where they burned up all their armor, one of the problems with just using "Dawn" over and over again is that it makes it easy to mix battles up
 
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They started doing that after Operation Dawn 5 failed in 1984, they burned through most of their armor on a failed attempt to capture Basra so they needed new tactics. You will note that "Dawn 5" is a far shitter operation name than "Undeniable Victory" so my theory that there is a causal link between how cool an operation name is and how effective the operation is has been vindicated.
You might have a point there, though Operation Barbarossa and Operation Sea Lion undoubtedly go hard and both of those were complete failures,

Honestly though, given Iran's track record of absolutely disregarding the lives of their own people, it's really hard to actually support them unless you're absolutely brainbroken.
 
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Jesus Christ this thread is cursed. I just want updates on the situation, not the same two opposing opinions on repeat.
These kinds of threads really should be limited to like 1-3 posts per person, with a media upload refreshing your posting privileges. I don't want anyone's dumb gay opinion I want videos and pictures
 
I'm sure there were multiple causes, I'm not sure the Jews even had a stranglehold over US politicians all the way back then the way they do now so the influence was likely less.
I believe that our obsession with Israel really became a thing with the advent of the Six-Day War, which is why the Oil Crisis hit in 1973.
 
So I was talking to a friend of mine in Iran (he and his friends and family are safe btw) and he told me that the fake McDonald's, KFC, Taco bells etc that Iran have are actually better than the shit we have (because the ingredients are all local). Ngl I really want to try a fake McDonald's.

I've heard from an Iranian that the lack of fresh produce was the biggest thing she hated about my shithole country and that people don't even realise how bad it is. Back there everything basically went straight from the farm to consumers.
 
Regarding Jewish stranglehold over US politics, it likely comes down to AIPAC.
Actually you'll have to go back further than that. The American Jewish Congress was formed in 1915, and the American Jewish Committee was formed in 1906. Both of which were instrumental in pushing issues like immigration - in fact, the AJCommittee was formed specifically to lobby the US government to take action against Tsarist Russia for (allegedly) persecuting Jews. So they've had their nails in US politics for nearly 125 years, at least.
 
I believe that our obsession with Israel really became a thing with the advent of the Six-Day War, which is why the Oil Crisis hit in 1973.
Sorta. Israel was always a thing that we supported to have a US ally in a region where the soviets, Egyptians, french and british all were vying for influence. Early Israel was run by revolutionaries who all disagreed with each other and had their own favorite forms of government (hence why the most crazy bullshit stuff came from that time, stuff like the levan affair and the uss Liberty or the super sherman), remember the first pms were jews who survived the Holocaust, the russian pogroms or the arabs expelling them and massacring them. So they were very stubborn and wild. Actually they were closer with the french and british than they were the usa. When the usa came to the aid of Israel in the yom Kippur war the reaction of the arabs in 1973 made the state department realize that they couldn't be trusted. Now much has changed since then but that's the rough history.
 
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