Sony hate thread

[Whoopsie Daisy]

What does that mean, “forced”? Games weren’t forced to be 4K or have raytracing, and it was generally marketed as a 1440p machine while the Series X was for the hardcore 4K crowd. Unless you’re saying it should have been incapable of pushing 4K or having games that use raytracing, which is just insane.

It was originally marketed as a 4k machine, in the same way that the serires x was going to do 4k@120fps with every game and launch with VR.
Yes it should have been incapable of pushing 4k or RT. There's an xbox for sale that does 4k, it's called a series X.
The S should have been restricted in power to keep the cost of the machine down to its bare minimum. The most powerful console rarely wins the generation, but the one which is affordable with a good library does.

At the moment, the S is just a piece of shit. It's too low powered to play current gen games in any respectable quality and too expensive to justify the cost of the thing.
A 1X with an SSD and a better CPU would have been cheaper to manufacturer, reducing the cost of purchase and allowed MS to target the audience of "it's so cheap, why not buy one for the kids/spare room/bedroom".

Could they?

Yeah. They're the only VR game in the console industry.

What playerbase did they have? A bunch of Gran Turismo players? I never really saw anyone with a PSVR2.

I was speaking in general with that point but, they could have had a massive VR playerbase. They only needed 1 killer app. Destiny, Killzone, Warhawk, resistance, Battlefield, Bioshock (remake) and a whole host of isometric games would have won Sony a big audience. Not to mention, they own Bungie, and a Destiny VR game was a no brainer, that they just ignored.

 

[whatever I feel like]

4th gen is the SNES

According to wikispergs you are wrong. 1st gen is everything before NES (so Atari 2600 and 5200 eras), 2nd gen is NES, 3rd is SNES and 4th is 64. Pong-clones, which I assume you count as gen one, are not considered to be video game consoles in a technical sense since all game data is in the unit right out of the box*, aka they are plug and plays. Do I agree with those terms? Fuck no, I'd divide "gen 1" in half, for starters, but they are what they are now.

*A few of them, like the original Odyssey, had carts but these didn't actually contain computer data, instead they had switches which activated or deactivated data already inside of the unit.

edit: Actually, I am wrong. Did someone change this shit while I wasn't looking? If so, good.

 

[Adash]

Maybe on average, but there's a lot of standout games that looked fine:

i like how all of these are PS1 because of how godawful the N64s texture filtering was

They only needed 1 killer app.

I always thought the killer app was Resident Evil but those were ported to PC via mods.

The thing is, even if they did have a killer app they’re not getting any Xbox users to move because the Quest supports Xbox Game Pass and I think that’s a better selling point to them than a few exclusives. The only thing they could really do is get as many Playstation users that are interested in VR, since I doubt PCVR users would care either.

But you are right, they did fuck it up even more than I expected.

 

[ChefKiss]

Not only is the PS4 still used, they still manufacture and sell them new. People still buy them. They're nuts even talking about a PS6 right now with the dumpster fire of PS5 still burning.

The only reason to do it would be to write off the PS5 disaster and start with a clean slate, delivering good games again
As long as they're still pushing the same live service games nobody wants and Neil Druckmann games about him wanking his ego to lesbians, it's just going to be another disaster, nothing has changed. Higher resolution and more details in the The Last of Us Part II: The Remaster of the Remake of the Version based on the tv show based on the videogame isnt going to make anyone want to buy it. Come back with a new Amy Hennig Uncharted, Wipeout, Bloodborne 2 and a bunch of games that people actually want and not just Neil & Herman stroking their own and each others egos and maybe you can salvage the brand

Marathon and Fairgames and Gummy Bears won't suffer the same fate as Concord, it's going to be even WORSE as they sunk cost fallacy themselves into wasting even more money on them.
Hyenas is still the game that handled this best. They saw the response and went "Ok fuck that then" and binned it, cut their losses right away and never thought about it again for a second

 

[StacticShock]

Hyenas is still the game that handled this best. They saw the response and went "Ok fuck that then" and binned it, cut their losses right away and never thought about it again for a second

oh..
OH.

you know the worst part is that Marathon could be salvaged into a SP with P2P coop game if they wasted less money on gaytarded marketing and socal hires but good luck hammering that shit on a current sony exec head because old marathon got some google search boosts lately, they will probably write if off as a failure for taxing purposes, dooming the IP forever into never being used again.

 

[The Last Stand]

They'll release everything but the good games anyways. Why isn't ratchet and clank on modern PlayStations? Gotta be stuck with mad modern game or shitty retelling of the first game but moviefied

I think Sony and Insomniac are just sitting on the R&C IP. Don't get me wrong, I don't want them to keep churning out titles. I would at least want the option to access them with modern hardware if possible. They did so with Size Matters and I believe Secret Agent Clank, albeit with their PS+. As of now, the Future trilogy and the original games are stuck on their original platforms.

 

[ZMOT]

lmao. Not the Index (people who bought that in 2019 are still winning), not the Bigscreen Beyond, not even the Quest for ease of use, but apparently the VR2 is best. sure.

no one is winning with outdated hardware valve still wants 1000 bucks for (especially not in this economy), an HMD that costs even more with questionable software support or getting zucc'd
while I disagree that VR is the killer app, with those options the VR2 is still the best normalfag solution (if they own a ps5 already).

 

[Markorian]

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Actually looking at the transcript of this, it's somehow so much worse. Hulst claims they "learned their lessons from concord", but is noticeably silent on what mistakes concord made, and whether or not they're aware of them. The only concrete, non corpo-speak mistake of concord he lists is that it "tried breaking into a market that was too crowded". You know, the insanely crowded hero shooters in 2024 market. Population: odorcrotch 2 on life support. The same market marvel rivals EASILY broke into due to a lack of competition. No word whatsoever from Hulst on how marathon is supposedly going to avoid this fate as it goes into the FAR more crowded extraction shooter market.

 

[Hope Eradicated]

I think Sony and Insomniac are just sitting on the R&C IP.

Back when Insomniac got hacked a year or two ago, one of the games in their lineup was a new Ratchet & Clank game slated for 2029.

 

[GeorgeFloydFentanylStash]

In the case of Resident Evil, I actually hope that's true. Except for the Gamecube remake. Leave it alone.

Please leave the GC version alone. It still looks great to this day.

 

[whatever I feel like]

Back when Insomniac got hacked a year or two ago, one of the games in their lineup was a new Ratchet & Clank game slated for 2029.

R&C was also a PS5 launch title, its totally on modern consoles already. The game underperformed, too. We're lucky that Sony continues making all ages titles at all since they never sell particularly well.

 

[TrinityReformed]

R&C was also a PS5 launch title, its totally on modern consoles already. The game underperformed, too. We're lucky that Sony continues making all ages titles at all since they never sell particularly well.

It was a mediocre remake, imo.

 

[whatever I feel like]

It was a mediocre remake, imo.

It wasn't a remake. You're confusing it with the PS4 game.

 

[Super Hans v2]

The game underperformed, too.

It didn't help that the controls fucking sucked on PC unless you have a DS5 since the firing mode of weapons depends on the dual stage triggers.

 

[Two Dollars]

i like how all of these are PS1 because of how godawful the N64s texture filtering was

It was leagues better than the jittery warbly mess of PS1 textures.

 

[Markorian]

R&C was also a PS5 launch title

I think first 6 months/first holiday season is a decent way of categorizing "launch window". Rift Ashart doesn't meet either of those.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

i like how all of these are PS1 because of how godawful the N64s texture filtering was

It's more because I'm not super familiar with Saturn and N64 has a small library, but I do know Saturn has some good looking stuff, and there's a few good N64 games that would belong up there too.

 

[Baraka Obama]

N64 is cool, Saturn has some good stuff, but PS1 is the greatest of all time.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

N64 is cool, Saturn has some good stuff, but PS1 is the greatest of all time.

PS2 is better, but it's a close call. Those two systems are easily at the top. I can never decide what's 3rd, I usually lean to DS.

 

[whatever I feel like]

Nothing 3D on any of those systems looked good. You are looking through nostalgia goggles if you say otherwise or counting prerendered FMV shit with no gameplay.